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HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13215524)
You just 'uninstalled' the zlob?

Quickdraw yes I uninstalled it and the game I had downloaded but I just restored it trying to fix it.

The agreement to their settlement with the FTC was that it would uninstall simply through the Add/Remove Hardware - obviously, this is not the case for me + they fucked my connections.

RP Fade 10-10-2007 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by yys (Post 13215599)
My exact experience with relatives and friends. You format the computer and reinstall everything for them and then you get a call a week later that their computer isn't working properly and you must have done something wrong. When you boot up out pops a purple guerrilla or some other form of adware/spyware.

I was over at one friends parents house and I shit you not, they had about 5 tool bars on their browser eating up half of the laptop screen.

I 'service' friends and family's pc's every month..funny and sad at the same time.

Quickdraw 10-10-2007 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by HS-Trixxxia (Post 13215627)
Quickdraw yes I uninstalled it and the game I had downloaded but I just restored it trying to fix it.

The agreement to their settlement with the FTC was that it would uninstall simply through the Add/Remove Hardware - obviously, this is not the case for me + they fucked my connections.

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the codec exploits

RawAlex 10-10-2007 10:36 AM

The codec deals are more difficult because they don't even try to be nice. Their entire intent is to create zombies to do their work. They certainly aren't going to put that in the infobar to show what they are.

I think that if a large number of adult sites suddenly started to refuse people with these products installed, that there would be a big change. Right now, there isn't a big push either way.

Let's say the hun, freeones, and a few other larger sites suddenly declined that traffic or at least popped up something on every page. I think you would see an increase in uninstalls as a result.

A few people around here would be very sad, they would lose traffic and income as a result.

AlmightyZeus 10-10-2007 10:40 AM

I did some digging and found a cool javascript tool: http://www.doxdesk.com/software/js/parasite.html

Basically it checks for spyware then alerts the user if he/she is infected. But the list hasn't been updated since 2005 :disgust

Roald 10-10-2007 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13215795)
The codec deals are more difficult because they don't even try to be nice. Their entire intent is to create zombies to do their work. They certainly aren't going to put that in the infobar to show what they are.

I think that if a large number of adult sites suddenly started to refuse people with these products installed, that there would be a big change. Right now, there isn't a big push either way.

Let's say the hun, freeones, and a few other larger sites suddenly declined that traffic or at least popped up something on every page. I think you would see an increase in uninstalls as a result.

A few people around here would be very sad, they would lose traffic and income as a result.

We put up a HTaccess like 2 months ago and if someone with Zango enters our mainpage it shows a bar on top of the page saying that spyware was detected etc. Maybe its to small to have an impact but we are very aware of the problems.

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13215658)
I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about the codec exploits

I must have misunderstood too then - yes I uninstalled the codec too but I do have it on that computer in a zipped file

Shap 10-10-2007 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlmightyZeus (Post 13215814)
I did some digging and found a cool javascript tool: http://www.doxdesk.com/software/js/parasite.html

Basically it checks for spyware then alerts the user if he/she is infected. But the list hasn't been updated since 2005 :disgust

Hey Zeus. I found the same thing yesterday. It's a shame it's 2 years old

AlmightyZeus 10-10-2007 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215895)
Hey Zeus. I found the same thing yesterday. It's a shame it's 2 years old

Got my old laptop out, zango ready. I'll add some new entries to the js file and see if it works. I'll keep you guys posted.

V_RocKs 10-10-2007 11:15 AM

Crazy shit Shap

V_RocKs 10-10-2007 11:16 AM

50 Zango mutherfuckers!

DaddyHalbucks 10-10-2007 11:32 AM

Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

Not good.

:(

After Shock Media 10-10-2007 11:36 AM

Them damn Zango banners are everywhere too. Specially on free games sites and they have some very alluring banner ads for game sites, not quite pornographic but deffinatly better chubby spank it material than I had as a kid and my mom had Vogue in the house.

Quickdraw 10-10-2007 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13216096)
Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

Not good.

:(

Yet you promote zango to other webmasters.

Not good.

Andy Servers4Less 10-10-2007 11:37 AM

wow, very interesting stats

Brad Mitchell 10-10-2007 11:51 AM

Those are insane numbers. This is a lot to process.

Brad

Quickdraw 10-10-2007 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13216096)
Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

Not good.

:(

I cannot believe you actually had the nerve to post links on spywarefreaks to iDownload.com(quickbuck) products? Yeah, everyone needs even more exploits on their system.

VirushunterPDF, registrydefender / winfixer, pcvirusless is another rogue and part of the cws group

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 12:14 PM

Quickdraw can you hit me up please?

Thanks

Zebra 10-10-2007 12:18 PM

I checked our logs over a 72 hour period and these are the results I got:

zango 0.9%
seekmo 0.25%
hbtools 0.05%
funweb 2%
megaupload 1.7%

Not exactly sure what megauplod is, but when I visit their site I see they offer the MegaToolbar which sets off a red flag.
This is just from the raw logs. I am going to try to filter it down to just the main entry pages and see if the numers change.

Shap 10-10-2007 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebra (Post 13216291)
I checked our logs over a 72 hour period and these are the results I got:

zango 0.9%
seekmo 0.25%
hbtools 0.05%
funweb 2%
megaupload 1.7%

Not exactly sure what megauplod is, but when I visit their site I see they offer the MegaToolbar which sets off a red flag.
This is just from the raw logs. I am going to try to filter it down to just the main entry pages and see if the numers change.

DAMN IT. I hadn't checked megaupload

I'm seeing 1% with megaupload

pornguy 10-10-2007 12:39 PM

OK really stupid question. How do I check the traffic for these?

Zebra 10-10-2007 01:11 PM

I just stripped down my logs and only ran results for our top 3 traffic entry pages and the numbers were about 0.4% overall higher than what I listed above. Fuckers.

Zebra 10-10-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 13216379)
OK really stupid question. How do I check the traffic for these?

You can search your server logs.

pornguy 10-10-2007 01:15 PM

Thanks Zebra

fuzebox 10-10-2007 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13216096)
Wow, alot of traffic has spyware and it seems to be increasing.

Not good.

:(

Fuck off and die!

Drake 10-10-2007 02:23 PM

I had no idea it was as high as 20%. :(

pornguy 10-10-2007 03:40 PM

This is what we have so far.

funweb 2.85 %
megaupload 0.62 %
Zango 0.51 %
Seekmo 0.39 %
peoplepal 0.28 %
hbtools 0.22 %
hotbar 0.20 %


IM not happy at all.

Quickdraw 10-10-2007 03:46 PM

You can bet that a large portion of these guys that have any of the zango family installed, also have a variation of the zlob or codec exploit as well since Zango is popping windows to places like adultdvds1.com/teen.html (visit at your own risk)

For every person that has the zlob installed, you are losing them in your organic search engine listings as well. Surfers with these codecs get their search engine results redirected to a multitude of PPC engines.

Pleasurepays 10-10-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuaShe (Post 13215864)
We put up a HTaccess like 2 months ago and if someone with Zango enters our mainpage it shows a bar on top of the page saying that spyware was detected etc. Maybe its to small to have an impact but we are very aware of the problems.

everyone should be reminded of the fact that its not "spyware" according to the FTC. so, trying to hurt their business by mischaracterizing what the software is, opens you up to civil liability.

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13217593)
Surfers with these codecs get their search engine results redirected to a multitude of PPC engines.

**my post disappeared**
but wanted to add that it's a multitude of PPC engines...OR...fake TGPS/MGPS that redirect the traffic for trades of legit traffic and then ultimately resold to a traffic broker.

Pornwolf 10-10-2007 05:26 PM

This thread is depressing.

HS-Trixxxia 10-10-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pornwolf (Post 13218103)
This thread is depressing.

I think a lot of us have surpassed the depressed part - the good thing is that finally others are taking notice. In th past 2+ years, I'd love to know how much all these companies have taken from the adult industry. I say 2+ years cuz it's around the time that the US got rid of gambling online that they replaced that income with going after adult agressively.

pornguy 10-10-2007 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HS-Trixxxia (Post 13218162)
I think a lot of us have surpassed the depressed part - the good thing is that finally others are taking notice. In th past 2+ years, I'd love to know how much all these companies have taken from the adult industry. I say 2+ years cuz it's around the time that the US got rid of gambling online that they replaced that income with going after adult agressively.

Sadly we will most likely find out, that this company is owned by one of our very own high rollers.

rowan 10-10-2007 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215423)
he just ran
grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/your-access.log


on each of the different spyware. funweb, zango, etc

I think this could be further refined, because it's counting raw hits rather than uniques. A surfer who goes through as many FHGs as he can find and grabs 100 videos/500 images will push up the total even though his spyware 'value' is the same as a surfer who views a single hotlinked image on a forum.

Something like this would probably work better:

first, count the total number of unique IPs in your log:
cat /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

then for each spyware name find the number of unique IPs that reference it:
grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

This won't work so well for logs spanning several days because the concept of a "unique" IP gets a bit blurry with different IPs being assigned as people reconnect but it will probably still be more accurate than just counting raws.

BTW the above assumes that the user-agent is actually logged... AFAIK the default Apache setup doesn't do this.

rowan 10-10-2007 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 13218560)
then for each spyware name find the number of unique IPs that reference it:
grep -ci "seekmo" /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

Oops, drop the "-c"

grep -i "seekmo" /path/to/access_log | awk '{print $1}' | sort -u | wc -l

rowan 10-10-2007 08:09 PM

Here are my stats based on unique IPs as per the above suggestion

Total measured: 196,030 uniques

seekmo: 870 (0.44%)
zango: 878 (0.45%)
hotbar: 259 (0.13%)
funweb: 4518 (2.32%)
megaupload: 1204 (0.61%)
peoplepal: 462 (0.24%)
hbtools: 418 (0.21%)

Does funweb do those smiley banners that laugh (both visibly and audibly) when you mouseover them?

peterk 10-10-2007 08:09 PM

Those are insane numbers. :(

1off 10-10-2007 08:24 PM

Funweb sure gets around.

I assume most of you guys are checking your logs where the traffic is from a variety of sources like tgp's etc..

Anyone have a strictly SE driven site they can get stats on?

Corleone 10-10-2007 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13215328)
lol. Yeah apparently i am. It's even worse on our members traffic.

Since Midnight here is the percentage of file requests that had the following companies in the user agent info.
funweb 14%
Zango 2.6%
seeko 1.1%
hbtools 0.2%
hotbar 1%

Right now the test is on file requests so it may be skewed in the members area if someone with it downloads the entire site. Still 19% is insane.

insane numbers. .thanks for sharing.

rowan 10-10-2007 08:43 PM

One other thing I should mention, it's also invalid to sum the total of the individual results (eg hotbar+zango+... = 19%) because some people will have more than one installed. :)

Example:

"Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; FunWebProducts; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; HbTools 4.8.7; Zango 10.0.275.0; Seekmo 10.0.341.0)"


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