150 tgp owners...

I wonder what he's up to now doesn't look like he's with PK anymore :upsidedow

Well said, i don't think that to ban TGPs would be a good bussines for anybody as probably tgps are the biggest traffic providers (i know, we are talking about amount not quality, but usually the bigger traffic the more $$ unless you don't know what are you doing).

About making all TGPs softcore, well in an ideal world that would be great, i wouldn't mind to make that with mines... if everybody does it that of course i doubt. This is competition, as long as one tgp, fresite or whatever keeps having hardcore, he will get all the traffic lost by the sites not showing hardcore.

This reminds me the TGP2 revolution, great ideas that never worked because some kept having the tons of pics galleries. (apart from all the problems with the mess of rules at each tgp2 site). We need autoregulation, we have always needed it, but we never managed to autoregulate ourselves.

As Shemp said, wake me up when the revolution starts and i'll follow it if everybody does, anyway i'm not a big guy that would make a big difference.

I'm bumping this thread to make a point.

5 and a half years ago, it was TGP's that were "killing the industry"
Why?
Because they showed "pink" and "hardcore"....and this was just pictures mostly!!

Yet they were the reason "the business is dying and nobody is making any money"

Today, everyone loves TGP's and blames the tubes. They give too much away, why would someone pay if they can get all that for free....blah blah

It's like deja vu all over again.....and 5 years from now, the guys who have big tubes today will be complaining about the new guys with whatever new type of site comes out that makes the tubes irrelevant.

Excellent point, and I knew why the thread was here as I started reading the OP.
I think however, tubes is the end all of porn. When TGPs were hot were TGP sites in the top 3 pages of google for "porn" and "free porn"?

Bump this again in 7 years and prove me wrong.. but tubes are exactly what the consumer wants and I'm sure will always want.

Many people may have given up adult over TGP saturation, but I think tubes will kill business much more

:2 cents:

I didn't understand what I was reading on the first page till I saw the date... LOL.

5 years from now, hookers with AFF ads tattooed on their forehead will start fucking guys for free and tube sites will be out of business. :1orglaugh

The thing you have to remember is that when TGP's were started, pictures were 95% of all internet porn.
Bandwidth was prohibitively expensive and home internet connections weren't fast enough to really support video. So video was primarily consumed in the DVD and VHS market.

So what TGP's were giving away at the time, in relation to what paysites were charging for at the time....is pretty much the same as what tubes are giving away today, in relation to what paysites are charging for today.

Giving away 10 minutes of a movie today is the same as giving away 20 pictures from a gallery back then. :2 cents:

This was an interesting argument in 2005. Please replace "tgp" with "tubes" to make this thread relavent to 2009.

carry on...

oh, it's 2002.

Lol, the adult industry has come a long way since this thread.

You could say that.

You could also say it hasn't moved a bit. We're still having the exact same arguments as in 2002, just replace "pink" and "hardcore" with "10 minute movie" and "tgp" with "tube".

So much of a problem that people that were posting her 7 years ago are still here working in the biz. And still making money I assume. I guess "free porn" is the AIDS of the adult web. Sure it will eventually kill you it'll just take 20 years.

Free porn has always been around and will always be around.

The determining factor in how much porn is given away is the cost of bandwidth.

If you look at the history of our business, you'll notice that the rise of the TGP happened at about the same time that adult hosts started selling cogent bandwidth.

TGP's had been around long before that, but they didn't have alot of content because galleries weren't online very long...the bandwidth bills were too high. Link Lists still dominated the traffic for awhile after TGP's started.

When bandwidth prices dropped, TGP's got flooded with galleries, because now gallery builders could make a profit.

Same thing with tubes. They've been around awhile....I found a thread yesterday about "killing pornotube.com before it gets any bigger" that was started in 2006.
They didn't grow to the levels they're at today until bandwidth prices dropped to 6, 5, and 4 per meg.

It's same shit different year....the only difference is how many zeroes on the price of things and whether we're measuring free porn in kb, mb, gb, or tb.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah oooooooooooooooooooooh my side!!!!!!

< FREE

(less than free... that's Google's ideology applied to porn)

2002 thread is ancient history. :error

i like what Voodoo had to say..

I guess tubes took care of the tgps lol

We're talking about "Tubes" in general? Or about the illegal tubes that spread video size in half an hour or more.
There is one very big difference between TGPs and Illegal Tubes with big movies.
TGP using content from sponsors, selling those same sponsors.
Illegal tubes using content from sponsors, often sell webcams, dating, access to their memberzone, just not these sponsors.

Lol.... Now this is funny....

I remember getting traffic from directories, boards and chats back then too...

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