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pornguy 10-22-2007 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaysin (Post 13268091)
so they nail him, but don't go after google and the other sites who actually hosted the videos that he linked to, hmmmm funny

He was easy to get. Google has an army of attorneys.

Not easy to get.

Fap 10-22-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 13273486)
He was easy to get. Google has an army of attorneys.

Not easy to get.

He was one man and all but look at pirate bay

Arkantiger 10-22-2007 09:56 PM

they always hit the little guys..

minusonebit 10-22-2007 10:01 PM

You know what I think is funny? A bunch of fucking adult webmasters sitting around cheering as the internet is censored and carved up into little pieces for mega corps and the government to control. Don't worry, they haven't forgotten about porn and they will get back to their favorite thing of cleansing the net of smut. This is just a temporary detour.

You guys have all failed to learn just like the bible thumpers. The laws that take away thier bibles tack away our ass fucking flicks. And the laws that take away the movie sites will eventually take away the porn sites. You just wait and see.

This industry really does get what it deserves.

halfpint 10-22-2007 10:20 PM

Here is the full article from the Gaurdian to save you clicking the link


According to a report in The Guardian: "A 26-year-old man from Cheltenham was arrested on Thursday in connection with offences relating to the facilitation of copyright infringement on the internet, Fact said."



The arrest and the closure of the site - www.tv-links.co.uk - came during an operation by officers from Gloucestershire County Council trading standards in conjunction with investigators from Fact and Gloucestershire Police.

Fact claims that tv-links.co.uk was providing links to illegal film content that had been camcorder recorded from cinemas and then uploaded to the internet. The site also provided links to TV shows that were being illegally distributed.



It's a pity the Gloucestershire Police started with such small fry. There are a couple of multibillionaires called Larry Page and Sergey Brin -- the founders of Google -- who provide vast numbers of links to content that is being illegally distributed. Indeed, as everyone knows, they actually host plenty of illegal content on their own video site, YouTube, which has a UK operation.

Is the message that it's less criminal to host illegal content on YouTube than it is to to link to it from a site such as TV Links? Or is it just that FACT (Federation Against Copyright Theft) and the police won't tackle anybody with enough high-powered lawyers to fight back? Is The New Freedom blog correct in saying: "They just have so much money that they have become above the law."

Of course, there is a difference between building a site around links to content that could be presumed to lack copyright clearance and linking unintentionally from a site set up for a different purpose. However, I'm not a lawyer so I don't know how significant this is. (Is shoplifting OK if you have a proper job but criminal if you're unemployed and starving?)

It will be interesting to see who FACT picks on next. There are plenty of newspaper journalists who nowadays, as part of their proper jobs, link to YouTube videos and other internet content. It would be amazing if every single bit of material -- some of it "repurposed" -- had full and correct copyright clearance.

In future, do I risk being thrown in the slammer for linking directly to a YouTube video? What if I just say "go to Google and search for [YouTube xxx yyy]" or whatever? Oh dear, I forgot, Google's illegal so that will have to be closed down.

Perhaps I am already breaking the law by linking to Google, YouTube, TV Links, Pirate Bay and other sites that link to illegal content because this must also count as contributing to "the facilitation of copyright infringement on the internet" -- and, by the way, I expect you are breaking the law if you link to or even read this story.

Indeed, if linking is illegal, we might as well shut down the Internet, because there is no practical way anybody can guarantee the legality of what's on the end of any link. Even if you could guarantee it at the time of linking, there's no guarantee it would still be legal less than a second later, or for the rest of time.

Update: Amusing in context, see this earlier Guardian article TV quick!, about sites that provide links to TV programmes.

minusonebit 10-22-2007 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 13273599)
Here is the full article from the Gaurdian to save you clicking the link.

There ya go! Nothing like committing copyright infringement while bitching about others committing copyright infringement. :thumbsup

Man, this place is too much sometimes. :1orglaugh

halfpint 10-22-2007 10:28 PM

Here is a comment from one of the moderators of the site

Ihave used Tv-Links on many occassions and i was also a moderator which i am proud to say. I have been on the site for over a year i believe. Although they did embed the files are still hosted on yourtube and google the content does NOT go on tv-links. There was also talk about another forum member who was held for questioning for 5 hours in Ireland he/she has verified this and i won't divulge his/her name but that person was released and was not prosecuted and neither has the owned for the simple reason as the site was NOT illegal it was merely a quick tool to do what you can do on google anyway you can quite easily go to google and type "family guy s01 ep3" or something along those lines and get the main video. If linking to google is illegal then what is google? There are numerous other sites doing the exact same thing as Tv-Links nothing is going to change by F.A.C.T's actions if anything more sites will be published to keep Tv-Links style websites alive.

When programs like Kazaa were shut down oh so long ago another 3 took its place. There is now an opening in the market for such sites and that opening will be packed with other sites getting into Tv-Links' HUGE place with Tv-Links over 37,000 registered users and probably 500,000 unique users a month there is definetly room for other sites.


You what is strange we havent heard anything about this on the TV I only became aware of this from reading it on GFY, Normally things like this are on the TV before they even get into the papers.

dav3 10-22-2007 10:38 PM

So much for that new filtering system g00gle uses, eh?

halfpint 10-22-2007 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13273607)
There ya go! Nothing like committing copyright infringement while bitching about others committing copyright infringement. :thumbsup

Man, this place is too much sometimes. :1orglaugh

If I am breaking the law by copying and posting this on here then so is the original person who posted the link here and every body else who has posted links to youtube and other such sites, that means that GFY is full of copyright material. If you read the article it says "TV links had illegal film content that had been camcorder recorded from cinemas and then uploaded to the internet". I think this is the real problem

minusonebit 10-22-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 13273662)
If I am breaking the law by copying and posting this on here then so is the original person who posted the link here and every body else who has posted links to youtube and other such sites, that means that GFY is full of copyright material. If you read the article it says "TV links had illegal film content that had been camcorder recorded from cinemas and then uploaded to the internet". I think this is the real problem

You pasted the whole text. Undeniable copyright infringement. And everyone else that did it is infringing as well. And so is google and everyone else, yada, yada, yada. Linking is not copyright infringement, and I dont care what "they" say about this case or any other. Not that I care anyway. I could give a fuck about copyright laws myself.

I just like how the same people that bitch about it do it themselves, and I find it terribly hilarious that this industry is cheering on the war against tubes/torrents/whatevers while at the same time bitching up a storm about 2257 and CAL-OSHA "protecting" the talent. Its but another example of how everyone loves to get the government involved (because doing so ALWAYS makes it better, right?) except when it involves their own shit.

halfpint 10-22-2007 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13273689)
You pasted the whole text. Undeniable copyright infringement. And everyone else that did it is infringing as well. And so is google and everyone else, yada, yada, yada. Linking is not copyright infringement, and I dont care what "they" say about this case or any other. Not that I care anyway. I could give a fuck about copyright laws myself.

I just like how the same people that bitch about it do it themselves, and I find it terribly hilarious that this industry is cheering on the war against tubes/torrents/whatevers while at the same time bitching up a storm about 2257 and CAL-OSHA "protecting" the talent. Its but another example of how everyone loves to get the government involved (because doing so ALWAYS makes it better, right?) except when it involves their own shit.

Well according to FACT linking to copyright films or other copyright material is copyright infringemant whether you know the item that you are linking to is copyright or not. I can walk into a libary and get to read or photo copy a newspaper page for free(apart from paying for the use of the photocopy machine), so I dont think that taking articles from a published newspaper is copyright infringement. What is copyright infringemnt is when people are camcording complete new films and posting them on the net. That is why they closed tv links down, and i think a lot of people on here who produce their own content are pretty pissed off with seeing all thier hard work being given out for free. That is why there is so many people on here who are bitching.


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