Nobody.

What's with the propaganda line about "Iran is our ememy" bullshit?? Are they?? Duh? Or is it that someone told you they are? Guess? :winkwink:

Sheesh... the propaganda bullshit will end up sinking the US into an even deeper swamp.

That is correct...they chose to withdraw...as they did not want to continue to pay the consequences of occupation.

I know that...but it is a truce because Truman would not allow our forces to go beyond the 38th...which was a mistake.

I just wanted to say pigshit to you. :winkwink:

Wot was that you said aico?? :winkwink: Pigshit???

Totally agree :winkwink::thumbsup

China and EU will win...

Lets all hope we don't start another war... we're all hoping this Iraq shit is over with soon.

Yes, a true "great success" in invading a country that didn't have a damn thing to do with the reason we went there. The administration wasn't capable of finding the real terrorists behind the 9/11 attacks, so we went for the "easy target". So they lied and sent many young patriotic men and women to die or be crippled. God bless America.

U.S. Casualties By Calendar Year
Year ... Deaths ... US Wounded
2003 ... 486 ... 2,408
2004 ... 849 ... 8,003
2005 ... 846 ... 5,948
2006 ... 822 ... 6,398
2007 ... 832 ... 4,996
Total ... 3,835 ... 27,753

The war in Iraq was over in like thirty days. In fact, it was rather stunning if you ask me.

However, we the winners of the war can't just walk away and say "well, that's all folks".

No one wins.

Whats the prize?

Locical answer its no one will win.

Which brings up the importance of understanding how the citizens of a country are going to react to their government falling. It was never a secret that Iraq was divided into three sections and hated each other. The only thing keeping the peace was Saddam's iron fist.

If foreign military forces didn't have the ability to impose forced control over these unruly Iraqi citizens, then we should have left Saddam in power. This conflict is never going to end until someone goes into Iraq and starts killing any man, woman or child who doesn't want to go along with the plan.

Nobody wins in war.

Batman and Robin will save us.

Only winners will be owners of american oil companies.

That is the best answer by far. The fact that this is even a thread is absolutely insane.

If the USA just plans to bomb them from the sky then yeah no contest the USA will win.

But if they invade with military, say goodbye to your troops because the IRG will slaughter them.

russian win :)

By the way the people that are hoping for war are absolutley insane, they don't realise that THEY will be the losers and they will have to adopt because of rising prices and loads of other shit.

... and that makes you proud !!!

probably the DOLLAR

Like the dollar won when they went to war with Iraq? :error:error:error

you mean .. the CANADIAN one ... right ?

seriously? i think its China :2 cents:

The Patriots?

yes, I agree. :thumbsup

US would probably screw Iran up military wise, but they can screw us up economically. Tough to say.

Irans a joke ... give me a break.

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crazzy shiiet ..

is anything you say serious? :1orglaugh

No it doesn't make me proud, I never said it did. I don't get into the nationalism bullshit like you guys. It's just a place I live.

I think the war is as shitty as you do. I just said it wasn't accurate to say the US got its ass kicked in Iraq. Don't construe my comments as pro-war.

The US would blow Iran away.

Yes this would be a stupid, destroy America's economy sort of decision.

One thing that should be mentioned on this thread is that Iraq is like a walk in the park compared to Iran. Iraq was a complete fucking joke of an army. We rolled in with superior firepower and force, and 24 days later have the military completely neutralized.

Iran isn't going to be easy at all if the US attacked.

A ground war is completely off the table. It would require more troops than we could muster, probably even with a draft and 100% of America's support. Have you looked at a map of Iran? Its a huge country. About 5 times the size of Iraq. Iraq is like hopscotch compared to Iran.

Also Iran's military is sophisticated. They continually purchase brand new equipment from Russia, mainly TOR mobile surface to air missile launchers that are very modern and perhaps even better than our shakey US Patriot missile systems. Airstrikes would be difficult.

The only battle plan I have heard of that is on the table so to speak is of air strikes which would still incur huge US casualties (many more times the amount we have lost in Iraq) per Pentagon war simulations. We would have to use tactical nuclear weapons on their nuclear facilities to destroy them. Their navy would be formidable, and it was within reason that we would sustain warship losses if we attacked. If they sunk any oil tankers that regularly bring oil out of the narrow straight of Hormitz, the world would panic and oil would hit 200+ dollars a barrel due to the major supply disruptions and instability just that alone would cause, discounting the oil that wouldn't be able to be pumped from Iran.

And don't take my word for it, take the word of the actual US generals and admirals that would retire (perhaps even openly defy the president I would hope) if he were to order such a retarded attack, because they know what a bad decision, militarily, it would be.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1434540.ece

Bush needs to go back to his ranch in Texas and play with his dog. Leading just ain't his thing.

well in 6,000 years persia has never maintained any kind of military advantage in the world.

Well said :2 cents:

lets see oil would go thru the roof,who could want a thing like that to happen? hmmm The funny thing is they are running the iraq/saddam playbook all over a again and it shows us how really dim we are as a nation.That they can probably get away with it twice.

USA all the way....

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