Really???? I don't think so :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

If all you can talk about is a nick on an adult chat board - hell, you must be getting short of something to say - or is it more "avoidance" of your scum govts activities in torture???

Really??? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Your imaginery watch list is obviously not working too well *LOL*

Quit the crap coward and get back to the subject of the thread and kill the frilly panty bickering of the insane.

So... you have a problem with one of my posts perhaps??? Which is it and what part exactly?? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Posted by me...

"Be advised that I have killed people that I did not have a particular DISLIKING of"
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Yes coward... I read that and the reply was:

Really??? I don't think so :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Do you know your govt is engaged in torture on a league similar to Pinnochet???

And.. the next reply will be pigshit.. so, move on........


Will repeat...

So... since you are presumably so informed, can you tell what "rendition" means and explain,.... for example, the flight plans of Gulfstream jet (variously ID'd with the following numbers - N379P, N8068V, N44982), on January 19th 2002, 31st July, 2003, or say, 2nd November 2003?


PS Can provide you will plenty more aircraft movements - but know you will be *very* confused. The German people were like that too when they were marched around the concentration camps, so expect no different.

I am very aware of what my government does and does not do...thank you very much. There is nothing...zero...nada that you...you ignorant fuck...can educate me about.

BTW...I take it you refuse to explain to the board why you have multiple nicks.

Now feel free to :321GFY...Webby...I have to go to the bay and prepare my boat as it is going out today.

Blah blah pigshit and multiple nicks blah... whatever.

OK... Your scum govt is involved in "rendition" - basically the kidnapping and removal of persons from other countries without any due legal process or court application. This is illegal - even in the US.

Along with "rendition", they have allied torture by proxy and individual involvement and supervisory action overlooking torture. What does this make them??? A torture regime who cannot be trusted with shit.

In effect and in past history, this is nothing new - they trained and equipped all regimes of terror in Latin/South America (including Pinnochet) and are now engaging in this activity themselves. An honorable govt if ever there was.

Go to your boat and fly the flag you are proud of. The Nazi's did, why not you, coward?? :disgust

Before getting back to the thread - how come theking is using a song from a singer for his sig that is endorsing Clinton and thinks that her husband was the best president ever - and in the singers latest comments says
"The thing that gets under my skin most about George W. is his intention to install fear in people," he said, after walking me down a hallway lined with gold and platinum records. "This is America. We're proud. We're not afraid of a bunch of terrorists. But this government is all about terror alerts and scaring us at airports. We're changing the Constitution out of fear. We spend all our time looking up each other's dresses. Fear's the only issue the Republican Party has. Vote for them, or the terrorists will win. That's not what Reagan was about. I hate to think about our soldiers over in Iraq fighting for a country that's slipping away."

Good choice of someone to prop up your sig their theking :thumbsup

Getting back to Blackwater - if you need an example of how they act within the US - just go back two years to New Orleans during Katrina - remember those pickup trucks full of guys with auto-rifles cruising the floods you saw on TV - those were Blackwater Mercs brought in because the Prez couldnt authorize Natl Guard by law

Do you think that it might be because I endorse the words of the song and not necessarily the singer and in addition could it be because I am not a Republican and never have been?

you're in desperate need of a knee in your face

Oh no's...Danny boy.

Forgot about them Linkster :winkwink: OK, there is a point in trying to maintain a level of calm/moderation in a disaster area, tho seems very weird to think that needs groups of armed mercenaries roaming the neighborhood. If it was Bush who sent these people there, - he sure has a lack of concept of human relationships. Not sure of the actual scenario now, - what would be wrong with importing LE from other areas to help, or the Nat Guard, or was this another method of skirting the law?

No other western countries (or many countries less developed) would tolerate armed mercenaries cruising the streets with members of the public around - even in a disaster time. In the countries I'm familiar with that would be a *big* issue and the fallout would prob range from major inquiry to possible sackings in the govt - and poss laws to prohibit that happening again. The fact that these people are mercenarcies and known as such, would prob involve the removal of govt, or at least all members associated with engaging/instructing mercenaries.

It's not a secret that disasters can cause looting etc, some do, some don't - and looting also involves simply getting food and whatever to exist, not just with criminal intent. There are far worse scenarios than Katrina, tho that was on a fairly strong scale, and it's "normal" to send help and support to people in need under these circumstances - not trucks of armed wannabees.

The conduct of the current administration, leaves many questions - mainly relating to accountability and responsibility. From their current and recent past action, there is no apparent reason to trust or have confidence in their judgement. They are accountable and responsible to those who elected them and so far, there is little indication of either - or of being of any significant value to the US people or the country as a whole.

Only my :2 cents: - I'd trust a rattler first :winkwink:

Ah :) Thank you for that link ASM - missed it between theKings "pigshit" posts :winkwink::thumbsup

Yep - aircraft ID N987SA is on a few flight plans here. It's fairly obvious from the flight plans what period the aircraft were being leased for "normal functions" and when they were engaged in "other activities".

When there is time, I'll check where that flew to :)

Oh yes... coward.

Still stalking and living in hope?? Pity you can't support a word you say and hide behind "blah, blah, pigshit". That obviously makes you very relevent :1orglaugh

They have had to farm South America and other parts of the world for their mercenaries. For instance Chile. They actually hired a shitload of guys who were soldiers for Pinochet. Pretty fucked up if you ask me.

And you are right about similar security companies. Blackwater gets a lot of press because they are the largest and most prominent. But there are a lot of other companies like Blackwater that are handling security overseas with little to no oversight.

Bush could send Blackwater to Pakistan, no ?

I heard that there is a " bad man " there, that abuses his own people and proclaimed himself dictator...

Blackwater could bring " freedom and democracy " ....:winkwink:

They are already working on it :winkwink: Musharraf probably received anti-impeachment advice from the White House.

They can also bring the 1.3 billion dollars we give the country. :Oh crap

Didn't know they recruited from the old terror regimes pk, but sounds an appropriate recruiting ground. They were well-trained and could be useful in having an element of 'non-traceable' and unaccountable people on the "staff". All the more reason not to trust any of them :thumbsup

I have a question about Blackwater- If they operate in the US would they have to actually obey by laws? Or would they be exempt, like in Iraq?

They technically have to obey the laws when in the US.

When that deals with such topics as surveillance are you sure they must maintain the same standards as a government agency?
Will the be required to obtain warrants?
Can they detain you, if so for how long, if not for how long can you see an attorney when they charge you etc?

I'm just saying that "technically" they have to abide by laws. But the administration turns a blind eye to them so they can basically do whatever the fuck they want.

These guys charged the government $950 a day to be security in New Orleans. They paid their people $350 a day. Talk about a markup.

Really, so a giant remote air ship built to suck in and gather information that quit possibly is equiped on its undercarriage with a starlight and sunshine effect so that it looks like the day or night sky would need a warrant before it turned itself on?

Ok sorry I just realized this sounds like a real bad sci fi movie.

thx very interestnig