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SmokeyTheBear 11-07-2007 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison (Post 13340525)
I DO WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IMPORTANT FOR ALL WEBMASTERS: Zango I believe is just a small problem amongst many other major problems. Zango is a company that we all know about and there are hundreds of other companies out there doing similar or even more invasive things to steal traffic or steal affiliate sales.

i'm not sure i would qualify it as a "small" problem

zango is one of the top spyware user agents in my logs..

at over 1% of web infection rate i would say they qualify as a "major" problem.

miroz 11-07-2007 01:50 AM

Keep doing that man, thx

Linkster 11-07-2007 05:42 AM

Will be doing some in-depth checks of ccbill sites today - as soon as I finish some paysite updates - did find more programs last night and will post results later today - let me know if there are any other specific programs anyone is interested in and Ill try to get Ice or someone to change the thread title so I dont have to post a new thread for each group :thumbsup

p1mpdogg 11-07-2007 06:12 AM

http://blogs.csoonline.com/files/complaint.pdf

can anyone see who the attorney was for PC tools?

tranza 11-07-2007 06:31 AM

Here we go again...

SCORE Ralph 11-07-2007 06:58 AM

Linkster, Im interested in getting Score-Cash checked out. Some of our sites include Scoreland.com, Scorevideos.com, XLGirls.com, 18eighteen.com, 40Somethingmag.com.

Allison could you hit me up on ICQ. Interested on knowing how you got on that list or in contact with these guys to get you off their targets.

Linkster 11-07-2007 07:45 AM

p1mpdogg - since thats just the complaint there isnt anything on there regarding representation for the defendant - you would have to go over to one of the law archives to figure out the case # and see the defendants response filing - which would show their lawyers

Ralph - I actually have some of your sites que'd up for today already

Quickdraw 11-07-2007 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13342713)
http://blogs.csoonline.com/files/complaint.pdf

can anyone see who the attorney was for PC tools?

You should be able to gleen all kinds of info from the case files here

Here are a few more they tried to sue. Hmm, Grant Media owes them almost a million and agreed to make payments? Interesting timing on that as well. Did they use Zango to fluff traffic stats for the sale?(Don't mind me, just pondering out loud)

Here is a gal suing them--
Phillips vs. Zango Inc

pocketkangaroo 11-07-2007 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 13339757)
SunnyDollars.. oh well, they are crooks themselves.. fuck them

Whoa, this is news to me. Can you fill me in? I've been pushing them for a little while.

p1mpdogg 11-07-2007 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13343013)
You should be able to gleen all kinds of info from the case files here

Here are a few more they tried to sue. Hmm, Grant Media owes them almost a million and agreed to make payments? Interesting timing on that as well. Did they use Zango to fluff traffic stats for the sale?(Don't mind me, just pondering out loud)

Here is a gal suing them--
Phillips vs. Zango Inc

awesome website. got what i needed
thanks

pornguy 11-07-2007 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Far-L (Post 13340441)
Wow... looks like Lars is going to have to buy you a lot of bro beers...

At this rate, it looks like Lars will be buying every employee of Epic Cash a new house to say sorry.

Linkster 11-07-2007 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 13343017)
Whoa, this is news to me. Can you fill me in? I've been pushing them for a little while.

Im sure it would be news to just about everyone since Ive never heard it and Ive been pushing them since they started day one - and never had any issues with them at all - for about a year they were actually my top sponsor for conversion rates - but with all of the sponsors rates dropping for this last year they are about the same as everyone now :thumbsup

RawAlex 11-07-2007 12:10 PM

Linkster, I understand where you are going with this, but remember, Zango is like spam. All the programs will say "gee, it sucks, we hate it" but in the end most of them will gladly profit from it if there is money on the table.

Only a very few programs are truly interested in doing anything about Zango.

Linkster 11-07-2007 12:14 PM

A few tests completed this morning

Fling - get a pop from adultmatchheat - very delayed - took about 15 secs to show up - also occurs using the fling gay ref link

MayorsMoney - tested one toon site and got a popover from titanime - checking some more links later

AdultPayMaster - popover on the join form for AmateurMatch on tastelesstoons - still working some more sites

NastyDollars - so far havent found anything added by Zango - still checking sites though

Linkster 11-07-2007 12:26 PM

Alex - every sponsor Ive talked to so far has asked me to check more of their sites and want referrals to other sponsors that have been able to combat these issues effectively - while I know there are going to be a percentage of sponsors that really dont care - I think they are few so hopefully this will help

SiMpLe 11-07-2007 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex (Post 13343787)
Only a very few programs are truly interested in doing anything about Zango.

I'm one of them :disgust

Far-L 11-07-2007 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13343864)
Alex - every sponsor Ive talked to so far has asked me to check more of their sites and want referrals to other sponsors that have been able to combat these issues effectively - while I know there are going to be a percentage of sponsors that really dont care - I think they are few so hopefully this will help

Would you be cool with me putting my attorneys in touch with you directly? If so then please email me whatever contact info works best for you to timlake at homegrownvideo dot com.

Thanks a ton for all your help here!

will76 11-07-2007 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13340617)
Allison - thanks - and the net round of tests will be using some of those other programs - we are basically working our way through the highest percentage of referrers to our sites based on the urls but wanted to get zango out of the way first - and I agree - there are literally hundreds of these types of programs according to our looking at user-agents

Keep up the good work man.


Thanks.

Ray@TastyDollars 11-07-2007 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13344529)
Keep up the good work man.


Thanks.


I second that!

Linkster 11-07-2007 07:47 PM

Far-L - will send over an email tomorrow afternoon - Im running a little behind on some video rendering that I have to finish tonight or Id already be on it :thumbsup

Linkster 11-08-2007 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Allison (Post 13340525)
Ok thanks for the info. It doesn't sound like Zango is targetting TopBucks sites. ~Alli

Alli - I went back and cleared cookies - went in to backseatbangers - and immediately got a pop from AFF with a ref code of P322292 - which is interesting because the ref code I get for epiccams is one off from that - P322291 - looks like they have two aff or house) codes being inserted for AFF pops

Been checking the NastyDollars sites - nothing so far yet

Went back and verified the pop on the CCBill join page for one site - the url was the bill.ccbill page - when checking the newer type join page I didnt get it for another site - with the url at beta.ccbill

Sebastian Sands - I checked your sites (without an affiliate code) and dint see anything

In the midst of checking the Bang Bros sites - and nothing there yet

RealityCash - didnt get any pops or redirects

Score-cash - I checked your sites - and got a pop from mycruisevalue dot com on your boobcruise site
Got a pop for totaldivorce dot com on your 40something site
Otherwise the other sites seemed clean

Epiccams - went back and got an immediate pop over the first page from AFF - ref id P322291

Ed - LotzaDollars - got and itextyou dot com pop on Loris site (SCG)

Just for my own interest - I did look at some free sites as well - and was quite surprised
I went to teeniesxxx and got a pop for adultdvds1 dot com - although it looks like zango has a good click tracking script to prevent fraud so I couldnt get it to repeat
I then went to world sex and clikked on the link to "more free sites" and got a popup from funbox dot com advertising wildmatch with an aff id (pussycash) of 124559716740
Then got a quick pop from textlovebox dot com
Again I couldnt get it to repeat - will try some IP and proxy changes to see later

Mr.White 11-08-2007 04:36 PM

:2 cents:

papill0n 11-08-2007 05:31 PM

You're doing some excellent work there Linkster - Kudos to you!

Quickdraw 11-08-2007 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13349865)
I went to teeniesxxx and got a pop for adultdvds1 dot com

Note that adultdvds1 dot com only promotes Codec trojans as well.

Don't worry, it will repeat. Zango is popping those codecs over just about everything.

Ray@TastyDollars 11-08-2007 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13349865)
Went back and verified the pop on the CCBill join page for one site - the url was the bill.ccbill page - when checking the newer type join page I didnt get it for another site - with the url at beta.ccbill

wtf is beta.ccbill.com?


Can you please check our sites?

Linkster 11-08-2007 06:09 PM

Ray - sure will test them - will report back in the afternoon tomorrow

that ccbill beta page, best I can tell is a new join page they are using on some sponsors as I only see it for some specific sites (example is nubiles) - not really sure of the purpose of the change?

Mutt 11-08-2007 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13350324)
Ray - sure will test them - will report back in the afternoon tomorrow

that ccbill beta page, best I can tell is a new join page they are using on some sponsors as I only see it for some specific sites (example is nubiles) - not really sure of the purpose of the change?

Linkster please check http://www.dawsonmiller.com for me

thanks!

Ray@TastyDollars 11-09-2007 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13350324)
Ray - sure will test them - will report back in the afternoon tomorrow

that ccbill beta page, best I can tell is a new join page they are using on some sponsors as I only see it for some specific sites (example is nubiles) - not really sure of the purpose of the change?

Thans man!

Fabien 11-09-2007 07:16 AM

Thread of the year so far.

Man you got my vote !
Keep it up !


Can you check out some ibill sites :lol:?
(mother fuckers :mad:i think i will never get over it)

TheDoc 11-09-2007 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13342133)
i'm not sure i would qualify it as a "small" problem

zango is one of the top spyware user agents in my logs..

at over 1% of web infection rate i would say they qualify as a "major" problem.

Zango shows up due to a court order that forces them to do so. 99% of spyware will leave no logs, referrals, ect. Really, Zango is on the low end of the scale for webmaster dangers.

RawAlex 11-09-2007 09:19 AM

Ray, consider this thread:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=783221

Your less likely to get hit on your join pages, IMHO, because you don't use signup/signuppage.php or whatever the standard is. That is already a good start towards not giving the people something easy to trigger on.

Buying a popup from Zango for every signup/signuppage.php that comes up, putting another free join page over the top would be a very effective way to get a ton of signups from everyone else's websites.

Mike Dutch 11-09-2007 09:32 AM

Good Thread Bump

Zebra 11-09-2007 09:46 AM

We redirect our spyware infected traffic to a page with spyware removal tips and we track the traffic to that page with google analytics. Over the past 3 days the traffic from zango and other spyware has tripled. This is really getting out of hand.

will76 11-09-2007 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13349865)

Epiccams - went back and got an immediate pop over the first page from AFF - ref id P322291



Trey you ever thought about sueing Lars (AFF)? I know zango is the company that is actually providing the means for your traffic to be stolen but AFF is the company that is doing it. They are intentionally targeting your traffic, so thousands of hits and who knows how many sales from you and all your affiliates is going to Lars.

What AFF is doing is no different then what Mike Hood did or anyone that steals from you. Zango only makes a couple cents for each hit that is stolen, AFF is the ones making a killing off of your traffic.

Stephen 11-09-2007 11:26 AM

bump for a great thread -- thanks for the testing :)

Mutt 11-09-2007 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 13350908)
Linkster please check http://www.dawsonmiller.com for me

thanks!

paging Linskter

Rico 11-09-2007 02:41 PM

Nice Job Linkster.

If you have the time, please review:

www.panchoDog.com
www.weconvert.com
www.shedevildollars.com

We've always prided ourselves on being on top of these things, but nothing like a 3rd party to make sure :thumbsup

We have also seen over 20+ hybrids of Zango and the like. These things are not going to be easy to take care of. Forming an organization to combat this is the easiest first step.

Rico 11-09-2007 02:50 PM

AndiPink Dot com would be something special to look at.
ArielRebel Dot com (DC)
KatieFey DC
FelicityFey DC
KristinaFey DC
ParisTale DC

ETc :)

RawAlex 11-09-2007 04:19 PM

bump thud.

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 11-09-2007 04:31 PM

Good job Linkster! :thumbsup

Perhaps instead of you having to do all of the grunt work, you could post a tutorial explaining how site owners can check out their sites themselves (set-up, what to look for, test procedures, etc).

Then everyone could post their results.

Your efforts to help the community are appreciated...

ADG


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