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JFK 11-17-2007 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SexualDragon (Post 13384487)
This should be interesting

yup , I agree:2 cents:

tony286 11-17-2007 03:14 PM

Who knows how much they really make. 300 million was rumored. If anyone would win against them,I think Trey could be the one he strikes me as pitbull that way.Best of luck.

papill0n 11-17-2007 03:16 PM

interesting....

BradM 11-17-2007 03:17 PM

Good for you Trey. if you have that much evidence, ignore the dingdongs and just go for it.

WiredGuy 11-17-2007 03:20 PM

is this regarding Zango or some other issue?
WG

xmas13 11-17-2007 03:20 PM

:) Sue sue sueeeeee

High Plains Drifter 11-17-2007 03:22 PM

Attorneys love it when their clients go and run their mouth in a public arena about litigation details. That's how they know they're dealing with a real professional.

That fact that you think a $50k retainer is even something worth mentioning is laughable.

JohnnyJames 11-17-2007 03:24 PM

CNN is perhaps the best idea in this thread. Once the announcement is officially made, your team could exert a LOT of pressure on Safeway.

Safeway is a grocery chain, and as such, will be subject to pressure of everyone from environmentalists to religious nuts. It is possible that the wrong press over the AFF deal would kill the transaction. Not sure that's a wise move, to take it so far, but certainly Safeway is touchable on a PR level that AFF neer had to be concerned with.

You're also correct about settlement language-they can contain anything.

However, I find it hard to believe you would refuse a deal that:

A. Gives you say, 10 million dollars

B. Acknowledges no wrongdoing on the part of the defendants.

C. Requires you to keep your mouth shut for life.

I know the idealist in me (and probably you and everyone else) would like to think otherwise. Sure, it would be great to protect your brethren in the biz, but in the end, it HAS to be about you and your family. I don't think anyone can condemn that.

I certainly don't see a settlement being offered or reached that would admit guilt or set up a precedent for others to come to the Safeway trough.

Now, going to trial, well, that's a different matter and certainly could result in many more suits, if you are successful. Unfortunately, you probably won't have a verdict either way for at least ten years.

Aussie Rebel 11-17-2007 05:32 PM

Good luck Trey, I hope you follow it through and kick there ass and don't just make threads about it like xpays did and then do nothing

will76 11-17-2007 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pipecrew (Post 13384803)
The difference with AFF is, they dont need to put lawyers on retainers, they have a full time legal team. They can draw things out for ever, since they pay the lawyers regardless.

Yeah the same lawyers who wrote Lars' public statement that he posted on GFY where they publicly admitted that 1. they were using zango and it wasn't a rouge affiliate, and 2. they were aware that "adware collisions" were happening. So his attorney wrote a public statement basically announcing their guilt. They were doing it and they knew it was taking sales away from their own affiliates.

I wouldn't put too much trust in them winning this case with jackasses like that running their legal department. :2 cents:

Some of the best proof that Trey has is what AFF's attorney's gave him. Unbelievable. I guess they were too stupid to realize it would have been better to not say anything.

will76 11-17-2007 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyJames (Post 13385066)
CNN is perhaps the best idea in this thread. Once the announcement is officially made, your team could exert a LOT of pressure on Safeway.

Safeway is a grocery chain, and as such, will be subject to pressure of everyone from environmentalists to religious nuts. It is possible that the wrong press over the AFF deal would kill the transaction. Not sure that's a wise move, to take it so far, but certainly Safeway is touchable on a PR level that AFF neer had to be concerned with.

You're also correct about settlement language-they can contain anything.

However, I find it hard to believe you would refuse a deal that:

A. Gives you say, 10 million dollars

B. Acknowledges no wrongdoing on the part of the defendants.

C. Requires you to keep your mouth shut for life.

I know the idealist in me (and probably you and everyone else) would like to think otherwise. Sure, it would be great to protect your brethren in the biz, but in the end, it HAS to be about you and your family. I don't think anyone can condemn that.

I certainly don't see a settlement being offered or reached that would admit guilt or set up a precedent for others to come to the Safeway trough.

Now, going to trial, well, that's a different matter and certainly could result in many more suits, if you are successful. Unfortunately, you probably won't have a verdict either way for at least ten years.


You got to be kidding me, a Grocery store wants to buy a porn company? Thats a first.

A little public exposure like you said and that deal would be done before it got started. I can't believe a grocery store would do this. Grocery stores are a dime a dozen, it would be nothing for a lot of religious nuts to choose to go to another grocery store and/or to picket. Middle age, married women with families do the majority of the grocery shopping, not excatly the crowd that this would sit well with.


Wow i am shocked a grocery store would make such an idiot move. Not to mention they know jackshit about this industry. Unbelievable.

After Shock Media 11-17-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13385449)
Wow i am shocked a grocery store would make such an idiot move. Not to mention they know jackshit about this industry. Unbelievable.

They know a crap load about data collection, consumer information, demographics, and the like. I also would figure that they would distance from adult, shitcan affiliates, lower payouts, and convert to mainstream.

I do see it as an odd fit though for a buyout, yet knowing safeways data collection well fuck.

XPays 11-17-2007 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Rebel (Post 13385432)
Good luck Trey, I hope you follow it through and kick there ass and don't just make threads about it like xpays did and then do nothing

we offered up a plan and invited several companies to join us and all the supporters suddenly disappeared fyi. maybe trey will have better luck. behind the scenes we did more than was visible on gfy fyi. also we are still here and working against unfair biz practices. gfy is not the best moniker for lumping us in to a group and have a nice weekend-

SureFire 11-17-2007 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13385449)
You got to be kidding me, a Grocery store wants to buy a porn company? Thats a first.

A little public exposure like you said and that deal would be done before it got started. I can't believe a grocery store would do this. Grocery stores are a dime a dozen, it would be nothing for a lot of religious nuts to choose to go to another grocery store and/or to picket. Middle age, married women with families do the majority of the grocery shopping, not excatly the crowd that this would sit well with.


Wow i am shocked a grocery store would make such an idiot move. Not to mention they know jackshit about this industry. Unbelievable.

While it is laughable, Safeway knows nothing about organic or green so why not venture into porn with all their other advertising monies:)

spacedog 11-17-2007 06:04 PM

sue them for what? The zango escapades?

will76 11-17-2007 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 13385490)
They know a crap load about data collection, consumer information, demographics, and the like. I also would figure that they would distance from adult, shitcan affiliates, lower payouts, and convert to mainstream.

I do see it as an odd fit though for a buyout, yet knowing safeways data collection well fuck.

knowing what to items to put on sale or by the cash register and what time of the day what age group is more likely to shop, or what demographic is most likely to use coupon has absolutely NOTHING to do with an online business muchless a porn company. I don;t care how well they collect data, they can be the best data collectors in the world if you dont know what the fuck to do with the data you collect you fucked. A grocery store, :1orglaugh The risk reward for them is laughable. I can only assume some kid just inherited the grocery store chain and he wants to buy AFF to look cool.

Good luck distancing yourself from porn, considering adultfriendfinder and cams are probably the majority of the revenue.

spacedog 11-17-2007 06:13 PM

Better hurry & have them served before hands change, otherwise you could be up for a losing case

L-Pink 11-17-2007 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 13385524)
sue them for what? The zango escapades?

That, plus who knows what a judge might award in punitive damages. That would be the key, punitive damages.

Get em' pimpdog!

:thumbsup


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SuzzyQ 11-17-2007 07:04 PM

Another way to derail the sale to Safeway would be to put out word that Safeway is looking to buy a porn operation. An operation that has no morals and advertises on sites that have Warez, Software Piracy, CP and everything else.

How many soccer moms will shop at a store that owns a porn operation that is known to advertise on CP sites and stuff?

Something to think about...

Dodge2hot 11-17-2007 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13384213)
You might have some leverage at this point, I dunno. What did your lawyers say?

Dunno what his lawyers said, but if they are good, they'd be telling him to keep his mouth shut till it is over. Anything you say anwhere can and will be used against you. Not a good way to try and win a case against anyone.

p1mpdogg 11-17-2007 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodge2hot (Post 13385697)
Dunno what his lawyers said, but if they are good, they'd be telling him to keep his mouth shut till it is over. Anything you say anwhere can and will be used against you. Not a good way to try and win a case against anyone.

i have said nothing that can hurt me on gfy. im just talking like i normally do. noone knows the evidence i have. most of the talking and assumptions are being done by the peanut gallery that i am observing :)

p1mpdogg 11-17-2007 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XPays (Post 13385501)
we offered up a plan and invited several companies to join us and all the supporters suddenly disappeared fyi. maybe trey will have better luck. behind the scenes we did more than was visible on gfy fyi. also we are still here and working against unfair biz practices. gfy is not the best moniker for lumping us in to a group and have a nice weekend-

hey man, when i was banned and posting over at the communist forum JBM where they delete your posts if they dont like em I was getting or trying to get ppl together. i do know a class action lawsuit is not the way to go.

however, i would love to speak with you offline about soemthing related if you are available...

please hit me up or give me a way to contact you van.

aim Epccsh
icq 417669891
yahoo epiccash_trey
email trey @ epiccash . com

Paul Markham 11-17-2007 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnnyJames (Post 13385066)
CNN is perhaps the best idea in this thread. Once the announcement is officially made, your team could exert a LOT of pressure on Safeway.

Safeway is a grocery chain, and as such, will be subject to pressure of everyone from environmentalists to religious nuts. It is possible that the wrong press over the AFF deal would kill the transaction. Not sure that's a wise move, to take it so far, but certainly Safeway is touchable on a PR level that AFF neer had to be concerned with.

You're also correct about settlement language-they can contain anything.

However, I find it hard to believe you would refuse a deal that:

A. Gives you say, 10 million dollars

B. Acknowledges no wrongdoing on the part of the defendants.

C. Requires you to keep your mouth shut for life.

I know the idealist in me (and probably you and everyone else) would like to think otherwise. Sure, it would be great to protect your brethren in the biz, but in the end, it HAS to be about you and your family. I don't think anyone can condemn that.

I certainly don't see a settlement being offered or reached that would admit guilt or set up a precedent for others to come to the Safeway trough.

Now, going to trial, well, that's a different matter and certainly could result in many more suits, if you are successful. Unfortunately, you probably won't have a verdict either way for at least ten years.

Sadly I think you're right. In the US justice is largely in the hands of the man with the most money. Right and wrong does not enter into it very often.

CreatineGuy 11-17-2007 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p1mpdogg (Post 13384116)
will put a kink in the sale of their company? becuase any day now they can expect a suit filed. not fucking around here.

xbiz or aven may want to hit me up and speak on the phone. becuase the current owners or the new owners are goig to have a very rude awakining.

btw my attorneys are:
Colin Hardacre
Dana Milmeister
Gary J Kaufman

looki up Gary's history. he doent take cases unless he wins. fact.

i have more proof than one would ever expect, that not a single defendants (4 now) is going to be able to get out of this one. prepare the bankruptcy paperwork or get out your check books you stupid fucks.

AFF is untouchable.. :pimp

no matter how many millions your stupid bald fat lawyer steals from people each month.. :pimp

Don't waste your useless time.

Paul Markham 11-18-2007 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CreatineGuy (Post 13386323)
AFF is untouchable.. :pimp

no matter how many millions your stupid bald fat lawyer steals from people each month.. :pimp

Don't waste your useless time.

Not 100% true. If there's a sale in the pipeline and papers are served it might be wise to settle very fast. Think back to Acacia and who was it who claimed they had to settle due to a sale going through? That was the company we knew about. The name escapes my fuddled brain. (Nice in, for you to insult me Trey. :1orglaugh )

If that's Trey's line then good on him. How many others would think of doing the same?

If this is over the Zango "Redirection" of traffic or them screwing their own affiliates I doubt if it will be Adult that pursue this matter. More likely to come from the mainstream.

KingK7 11-18-2007 05:54 AM

I refuse to believe that a grocery chain is buying a porn company...

justFred 11-18-2007 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingK7 (Post 13386768)
I refuse to believe that a grocery chain is buying a porn company...

from what I understand that is an unsubstantiated rumor, and penthouse (again, unsupported in factual evidence, although more believable) actually purchases AFF.

as for any alleged zango incident, alleged suit, or alleged Ron Weiner tipping badly... I safely shield my ass with said allegedness. :party-smi

I still however, would like to secure this spot #67 here on page 2, have a good day and gofuckurselves.

JayCabi 11-18-2007 06:28 AM

Yeah and I'm sure these attorneys just love you flashing around their names on an adult forum.

p1mpdogg 11-18-2007 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayCabi (Post 13386851)
Yeah and I'm sure these attorneys just love you flashing around their names on an adult forum.

they represent adult clients in the adult businesses.

LOL

you idiot.


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