glad i can keep you amused, king cocker spaniel. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :thumbsup

Oooooh you fucking guy. You really, really are a very funny man. :1orglaugh See I am laughing even now. King cocker spaniel. Oh this is funny. You fucking guy, I will be even laughing all day tomorrow too.:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

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Theking and Drew are both incapable of debating issues, they will start personal attacks when they are put in a position that clearly provides clues that they are incorrect.

This indicates a lack of maturity on your behalf and I am sure you get no respect from other adult individuals.

Why join a discussion when you cannot handle the heat?

Totally fucking untrue. I can defend my positions anytime I choose to take a position. Some of the things you have stated are not worth responding to in a serious way, the same with others. Your whole game is that of an America bashing asshole. There are many things I would prefer to do with you other than debate, but bring it on anytime. If I am in the mood to debate, I will, if I'm not I won't. I will fore warn you that I am ususally not in the mood to debate undeserving European, American bashing assholes. I put them in the same category as offal. When I slaughter a cow I bury the offal on the south forty to keep the stench away from my home.

the kurds are Iraq's palestinians... not really HIS people.. Im not excusing him in any way.. i just hate to see the spin being brought up again and again... If israel suddenly did something to fuck with america's interests the propaganda machine would swich to how they're oppressing and killing palestinians. It's just part of the demonisation process.. Saddam was America's buddy back in the day.. funded just like Osama.. Now the US has to spank him like they often have to do with the dictators they install that get too uppity for their own good and don't remember their place... Noriega comes to mind.

Thank you for proving my point.
Show me how I am an American bashing asshole.

You call anyone remotely not agreeing with US policy an American bashing asshole.

No further proof is required.

One sick thing about the Kurds in Iraq is that the US funded, encouraged and guaranteed support for the Kurdish uprising and when it actually happened they(US) backed down and thousands of Kurds were killed because the support promised by the US did not appear.

Way to go Whitehouse, thousands of lives lost. it's ok we can just blame it all on saddam and those bio weapons we gave him, never mind we set them up to be slaughtered.

they backed down because shitheads like you kept moaning and crying about a "peaceful solution" and would not stand for the US supporting an uprising to overthrow the government.

it was very tragic indeed.

If there is a solution where war and violence isnt used
its worth trying,
i served as a united nation soldier in the balkan war for 1.5 years
and guys i have seen alot of shit
there is no heroic deaths, there is just deaths...
and i also notice that the people that scream war highest
is almost always those who is NOT being in the frontline...
i seen children (4-5 years old) sitting for hours with the remains
of their mother in there lap and i have seen mothers walking around with just an head or an arm of their babys ...
12 year old girls thats been gangraped by 15-20 soldiers
i dont judge any sides here but its easy to talk when you
havent been involved and seen the shit at close

i dont think that anyone believes that war is a good thing. i dont think anyone supports killing people, watchin people die etc.

there was war in the Balkans for a variety or reasons and it was rooted deeply in enthnic, religious and historical hatreds for each other. When one person is causing that war, wants war, will not be happy if there is no war... such as Miloslovich who caused 4 wars then a better solution would have been if he was removed the second he began the conflicts.

it goes back to the original point i try to make. These horrible people exist because the rest of the world wont fight them. thats how they got as far as they did.... thats how they cause the death and destruction that they do.

to have peace between two parties... you need two parties that want peace

to have compromise between two parties... you need two parties willing to compromise

to negotiate peace between two parties... you need two parties willing to negotiate.

if one party is insisting on war, then swift action needs to be taken. there is no "clean" way to deal with people in power who only want death and destruction. You can only act swiftly and decisively to minimize losses.

however, endless debate, reluctance, hesitation and inaction is not a solution either and does not save lives.

The case against Saddam Hussein has been made repeatedly over the last 11 years. his intentions are pretty clear. he track record is pretty scary. waiting for him to have a change of heart is not proving to be realistic. Relying on the UN Securtiy Council and the International community to inforce its own rules and decisions is not making the lives of Iraqis better or weakening Saddam Hussein either.

In order...You are welcome. I will not take the time to do a search and show you how you are an American bashing asshole. Not true. I am happy for you that you have satisified yourself. Anything else?