No but I saw the lamest attempt in the world to do so.

LOL so hes a bad congressman because he tried to get his district some of the tax dollars that they paid the government to go back into his district? Wow, huge scandle :disgust

Ironically, I was watching thinking 'Could stupid people really be tricked this easily?' according to this thread, yes. :1orglaugh

while i think the income tax thing is VERY revolutionary and i don't see much chances that this ever comes true, i do not generally disagree with RPs ideas (or at least some of them).

i just think that for someone who wants to become president of the USA he was very poorly prepared and presented himself in a bad way. a future president should be able to precisely answer all questions about his program and the general state of the country and general foreign politics. and thats not rocket science, it's something that is expected from all leaders of all countries all around the world.

i just think that was somehow forgotten over the fact that since 8 years you have a president that just needs to decide between the red and the yellow button after others have done the thinking for him

I was wrong about the RP quote, he didn't know numbers when Tim asked him. I don't think that is important though. Your nit picking. If he said- the income tax produced $966,900,000,000 in fiscal 2006 would that be better? Wouldnt change my opinion. And like he stated- he can't instantly remove all income tax, he just wants to phase it out as fast as he can.

Wack job? Crazy? INSANE? Lets look at the numbers.


In 2007, the US recieved $966,900,000,000 from individual federal income tax. It also recieved this (i stole this from wikipedia)-

# $818.8 billion (37.6%) - Social Security and other payroll taxes
# $220.3 billion (10.1%) - Corporate income tax
# $75.6 billion (3.5%) - Excise taxes
# $26.1 billion (1.2%) - Estate and gift taxes
# $28.3 billion (1.3%) - Customs duties
# $41.6 billion (1.9%) - Other

We spent 2.8 trillion, so we packed on around 500-600 bil onto the national debt.

So as you can see- the non federal income tax was around 45% of the budget. Total NON income tax money for the fed is about 1.2 trillion dollars. That is a shit ton of money, son! And that is with no new taxes. That is just using things already in place.

OK then for expenditures- if you look here http://www.usaspending.gov/ you can see that in 2000 we spent 1.8 trillion on everything.

So if we had a government about the size of what we did in 2000, AND we borrowed about the same amount, we would be in the ballpark.

So there it is. A government without a federal income tax!

LOL. Put his past service up against ALL the other candidates and we will see who is left standing. Its funny that you would have the gull to call him ignorant to what hes been fighting for since before Reagan was in office.

Well a few weeks ago I thought he said he'd get rid of the FBI and CIA as well, or at least drastically reduce them.

I think it's a huge deal. He very clearly doesn't practice what he preaches in that regard. It's ok for him to take money he earmarks while voting against everyone else's earmarks? If that's not painfully obvious hypocrisy I don't know what is.

No, congress is given a budget every year and every year they SPEND ALL OF IT.

So, his goal is to CHANGE THE BUDGET. Not to make sure his district gets ignored as they're splitting up the pieces of the pie, thats just insane.

Are you that desperate for something to attack Ron Paul about? Or are you just a clueless dumbfuck?

BOTH. What do I win?

Oh is that why he voted to against establishing it? Oh that's right.. he's for "leaving it up to the markets" Well guess who wants to get rid of the whole notion of net neutrality? the fucking ISPs in the market place you fucking idiot!

So that leaves this "terrible government" you want to dismantle so badly as the only fucking thing standing in the way of getting rid of the notion of net neutrality.

Who do you think the goverment is made up of.



















Tool.

So it's ok for him to vote against the earmarks of others while taking them himself then is what you're saying?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh Nice rebuttal. Run along sheep. there's grazing in the glorious fields of Ron Paul's bullshit for you to do.

Its a pretty simple concept, you have to function within the system while at the same time trying to change it.

In other words, you gotta play by the rules - but you don't have to like them.

Is it another scandle that "Ron Paul wants to abolish the income tax, but he still pays his taxes!!" ???

Of corse not. Once again, hes a congressman that doesnt have the power to change the system alone, so he MUST function within it until he can.

Please inform the stupid folk who you think better represents our people.

If all you can do is throw out insults and not have a better choice to speak of then STFU.

Ronald Reagan, U.S. President

?Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country.?

It's actually a good idea, IMO

http://www.fairtax.org

So, gasoline should go for say $20/gal ?

hmmm, yet RP disassociated himself from Reagan. Called him a failure.

If we abolished the Federal Reserve we could easily do away with the federal income tax. The income tax is just the collateral put up to ensure that the owners of the privately held, for-profit Federal Reserve are paid the interest we got roped into paying when the Federal Reserve Act was whisked through congress in 1913.
It's illegal and unconstitutional.