Thanks Mutt, very well said and very true. Thanks for your time on ICQ in the past. You are one of the very small handful of honorable guys in the biz.

Thanks Tam. I hope everything is going well for you now.:thumbsup

I am not sure where you sent it to but i did not receive it.

If you could kindly send to batts @ battsworld.com that would be great

Best of luck in 08 as well, things getting worse and worse spur us onto trying something completely different and that can sometimes be the best thing we do. Riding and relying on a sinking ship isn't a good way to live, and getting out before things get even worse can feel like a great relief.

Good luck on your new ventures Batts.

Batts, i was unkind in the other thread. however having seen the first post in this thread. I wish you luck in your future endevours. most people dissapear, but you stood up. right thing to do.

Sometimes life kicks us in the ass...but, its how you handle those moments that really counts. You did right here, Batts - I truly wish you the very best and hope that '08 finds you on the upswing.

Batts, do you quit adult to go mainstream? ;)

good luck in the future

damn batts. You have given me lots of good tips last year. I see lots saying why not have someone else run the program and maybe there is more to it. Are you going to quit adult or just film. Any plans? Good luck man

That happens when you think you know everything. Glad you said sorry. Well almost :)

All the best Batts and good luck mate.

Your honesty and integrity really comes through in this thread, Batts. I wish you good luck with everything and I hope you enjoyed your time in the industry and found it valuable (if not as profitable as you'd hoped.)

Might also be wise to use the same name on ICQ as you do on GFY.....But apparently not everybody does that. :disgust

Please hit me up. 130823758

Sorry it did'nt work out for you:sadcrying..Hit me up let me know what your selling..:pimp

wow, did not expect that.

good luck.

hey Batts, ups and downs are the part of life. You are the man to face them .. work harder dude until you are over it.

Wish you very best of luck.

good luck man

good luck with the future!

A man that can admit his defeat is a great man. If u need something it is free to ask.

there's less and less money in porn

LOL....Yeah...Whatever.

Ive used the same ICQ for 10 years your added

Sorry to hear, best of luck

:thumbsup

Goopd luck Matt 2.. Not everyone is cut out for this enviorment

And you are added as well...But there is nobody named "Bake" in my contact list.

It's mickbake on icq, but if I remember correctly, he's in Australia. So it's a big time difference for you. :)

Dont know you Batts, but all the best for the future

2008 will be the year of this type of announcement

on a batts note: if you had chosen your girls better I think you could have made it, you had the drive and seemed to have a nice enough rep in the biz, you really could have gone the distance for sure, but your girls were below average

Sorry to hear that man. I hope 2008 is better for you.

just as a catapiller thinks its life is about to end it turns into a butterfly ,Im sure this is just a speed bump and you will turn out just fine :thumbsup

Thanks mate, but i really dont think it was the girls that were the problem, the problem was the guy (ME) steering the ship.:2 cents:

Batts, stay with a regular job. Some deskjob.... You will earn your 2000 dollar a month.... and that will cover your food and rent. Thats about it.

man, I really don't think so. you seemed to have a good head on your shoulders and were no worse than a lot of guys you see running programs these days

I didn't read the thread, but did you mention anywhere where you think you went wrong? lots of people could learn from it, and maybe you also, that way in the future you, and others, can avoid making the same mistakes

You gave it a shot and didn't work,dog eat dog world and it's all about marketing..best of luck in the future

Batts, your honesty is appreciated. the old saying: if you don't try, you automatically fail. If you do try, then you succeed where others have failed.

And handling it in this manner is 9/10th of it all.

Best to you.

Failure is an important lesson in finding success.

i doubt that. I get what you are trying to say, that a lot more people will be quiting because they can't make a go of it, but I doubt many will go out with class. Most will just crash and burn and/or rip people off on their way out the door.


Good look to what ever you decide to do batts. Also I wouldn't say you failed. I am sure you will be selling your sites for something, so thats a plus right there. Also I bet you learned a lot of stuff during the time you ran your sites and shot content, maybe even some things you can take with you to your next venture. One of the best things I ever did was spending a year in network marketing, even though i failed terribly to make money I learned more about business, motivation, goals, public speaking, everything etc.. than I did from 4 years of college. Hopefully you can take some stuff with you from this too that will help you in the future.

sorry to hear this...try to get everyone paid off as best you can and move on....good luck to you..

I think you're right. Don't worry I'm not going anywhere. :1orglaugh

Sorry but I also agree with Dial, or maybe it was you not getting the best out of the girls. A balance of both maybe.

To all the people giving out advice for people to pick up a camera and shoot content.

That's what Batts did and he was liked on the boards and I'm sure a lot of people sent him traffic.

My advice to anyone thinking of shooting your own content for your own site is this. Don't. Unless you KNOW you can crack it.

Paul, i respect you, i always have and i am the last person who should be saying anything but i have seen many other sites with girls that were alot different to my models and they are making massive money.

It was me that messed it up, not the models, not the affiliates, not the weather, it was ME

Why give up? Hell, even partnering up with someone else might be beneficial for both parties.

Batts,

You loose some, you win some. No one can forever win and be forever succesfull. Sometimes is better to know when to quit and you feel that now it is time, just do it.

If you apply the lessons you earned here I am sure that you will be succesfull on the next things that you are going to do.

Egomancer

just sent you an email requesting $ owed. btw battsbucks is down.

Hey Batts, icq me at 151-089-969 for a brief chat. We may be able to help eachother.

Maybe he didn't pay his host either?:2 cents:

I dunno, I really didn't think most of your girls were very attractive at all.

People told you that your sites were shit, but you kept shooting your shitty content.

You are stupid.