there's less and less money in porn

LOL....Yeah...Whatever.

Ive used the same ICQ for 10 years your added

Sorry to hear, best of luck

:thumbsup

Goopd luck Matt 2.. Not everyone is cut out for this enviorment

And you are added as well...But there is nobody named "Bake" in my contact list.

It's mickbake on icq, but if I remember correctly, he's in Australia. So it's a big time difference for you. :)

Dont know you Batts, but all the best for the future

2008 will be the year of this type of announcement

on a batts note: if you had chosen your girls better I think you could have made it, you had the drive and seemed to have a nice enough rep in the biz, you really could have gone the distance for sure, but your girls were below average

Sorry to hear that man. I hope 2008 is better for you.

just as a catapiller thinks its life is about to end it turns into a butterfly ,Im sure this is just a speed bump and you will turn out just fine :thumbsup

Thanks mate, but i really dont think it was the girls that were the problem, the problem was the guy (ME) steering the ship.:2 cents:

Batts, stay with a regular job. Some deskjob.... You will earn your 2000 dollar a month.... and that will cover your food and rent. Thats about it.

man, I really don't think so. you seemed to have a good head on your shoulders and were no worse than a lot of guys you see running programs these days

I didn't read the thread, but did you mention anywhere where you think you went wrong? lots of people could learn from it, and maybe you also, that way in the future you, and others, can avoid making the same mistakes

You gave it a shot and didn't work,dog eat dog world and it's all about marketing..best of luck in the future

Batts, your honesty is appreciated. the old saying: if you don't try, you automatically fail. If you do try, then you succeed where others have failed.

And handling it in this manner is 9/10th of it all.

Best to you.

Failure is an important lesson in finding success.

i doubt that. I get what you are trying to say, that a lot more people will be quiting because they can't make a go of it, but I doubt many will go out with class. Most will just crash and burn and/or rip people off on their way out the door.


Good look to what ever you decide to do batts. Also I wouldn't say you failed. I am sure you will be selling your sites for something, so thats a plus right there. Also I bet you learned a lot of stuff during the time you ran your sites and shot content, maybe even some things you can take with you to your next venture. One of the best things I ever did was spending a year in network marketing, even though i failed terribly to make money I learned more about business, motivation, goals, public speaking, everything etc.. than I did from 4 years of college. Hopefully you can take some stuff with you from this too that will help you in the future.

sorry to hear this...try to get everyone paid off as best you can and move on....good luck to you..

I think you're right. Don't worry I'm not going anywhere. :1orglaugh

Sorry but I also agree with Dial, or maybe it was you not getting the best out of the girls. A balance of both maybe.

To all the people giving out advice for people to pick up a camera and shoot content.

That's what Batts did and he was liked on the boards and I'm sure a lot of people sent him traffic.

My advice to anyone thinking of shooting your own content for your own site is this. Don't. Unless you KNOW you can crack it.

Paul, i respect you, i always have and i am the last person who should be saying anything but i have seen many other sites with girls that were alot different to my models and they are making massive money.

It was me that messed it up, not the models, not the affiliates, not the weather, it was ME

Why give up? Hell, even partnering up with someone else might be beneficial for both parties.

Batts,

You loose some, you win some. No one can forever win and be forever succesfull. Sometimes is better to know when to quit and you feel that now it is time, just do it.

If you apply the lessons you earned here I am sure that you will be succesfull on the next things that you are going to do.

Egomancer

just sent you an email requesting $ owed. btw battsbucks is down.

Hey Batts, icq me at 151-089-969 for a brief chat. We may be able to help eachother.

Maybe he didn't pay his host either?:2 cents:

I dunno, I really didn't think most of your girls were very attractive at all.

People told you that your sites were shit, but you kept shooting your shitty content.

You are stupid.

150izzle?

Good luck on 2008! Always nice to know that you are entering a better year than the previous one!

Batt Sucks
 

Hello Batts,

Wise move to get out. This is a small town and girls talk. You can't expect to get much from your models when you want them to suck your cock at the end of a shoot.

And when you promise them they'll make between $20,000 and $40,000 and you don't deliver the cash. Do you think they're going to open up their bodies to you?? And keep coming back for more explicit stuff when they feel you're just going to jump their bones.

No No No

Did you get into this industry to get laid? Or to make a shit load of cash overnight ?

Annie
webmistress
Girls Out West

What were your motives? What did you get out of it? What lessons did you learn?

I shoot all my own content, and run the site. And I am a real female. I live in the same city as Batts and I haven't heard one good thing about him (from the models or industry people).

Honesty and integrity will get you further in this business than the desire to make cash from looking at pussy all day long.

:helpme:helpme:helpme

I was wondering when this was going to come out. Don't know if his behavior with models contributed to his downfall, but it surely didn't help.

Well ............... :(

So the dude couldn't get laid without hitting up the models, and they all see him as a creep afterwards? Makes complete sense to me.

wtf would you know his behavior with models - you're half a world away in Arizona and he's in Australia.

Because Annies post isn't the first time something has been said about this.