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collegeboobies 01-12-2008 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13642863)
I wouldn't be so quick to think that. Recently there were many states that voted on banning gay marriage. There was a state recently that also voted on banning abortion and testing those waters. With the support of the prez a state by state ban on abortion (for those that did vote it in) could easily happen.

A ban on booze out of sight? Hardly. There are still states that have dry counties. I can easily see how they could take the next step.

I am all four state and local governments having a say in how they run and giving the citizens of those states and cities a voice in how they live, but I think anytime you start having one state voting to take away freedoms it is a bad situation and could eventually really divide the country.


Yo dude the states can pretty much ban abortion or allow or ban gay marriage now. Whats gonna change on that? Not much. Everyone isnt for gay marriage, everyone isnt against abortion, yet we expect the whole country to obey one rule when its split almost 50/50?

notoldschool 01-12-2008 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13642863)
but I think anytime you start having one state voting to take away freedoms it is a bad situation and could eventually really divide the country.


You mean this isnt already the fact? I think the country has been divided since its creation.

kane 01-12-2008 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboobies (Post 13642873)
Yo dude the states can pretty much ban abortion or allow or ban gay marriage now. Whats gonna change on that? Not much. Everyone isnt for gay marriage, everyone isnt against abortion, yet we expect the whole country to obey one rule when its split almost 50/50?

The difference is now you can fight this on a federal level and have it struck down. If we have a president that wants to promote this he could do away with that federal outlet.

kane 01-12-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 13642876)
You mean this isnt already the fact? I think the country has been divided since its creation.

I understand that. I'm saying that giving states too much individual power could only make it worse.

collegeboobies 01-12-2008 01:52 PM

kane:

You think he is going to get rid of the Supreme Court? He is not going to change the court systems or their decisions. He is going to shift responsibilities to different areas.

kane 01-12-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by collegeboobies (Post 13642916)
kane:

You think he is going to get rid of the Supreme Court?

no I don't but what good is promising states expanded power if it will just be overseen/overruled by the supreme court? Let's take the abortion issue for example. If your state bans abortion then someone challenges it and it ends up before the supreme court and the supreme court says that roe v wade overrules the state law what is the point of passing the state law in the first place?

If you are going to expand the power of individual states you need to do something to make sure they can then use that power. I don't know what is plan it, but he must have something in mind.

Pleasurepays 01-12-2008 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13642921)
no I don't but what good is promising states expanded power if it will just be overseen/overruled by the supreme court? Let's take the abortion issue for example. If your state bans abortion then someone challenges it and it ends up before the supreme court and the supreme court says that roe v wade overrules the state law what is the point of passing the state law in the first place?


maybe he's too busy smoking his 100% legal, totally risk free medical marijuana to grasp what you are saying.

baddog 01-12-2008 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 13642901)
I understand that. I'm saying that giving states too much individual power could only make it worse.

They think the south should have won.

IllTestYourGirls 01-12-2008 07:11 PM

The "game plan" was already written. It is called The Constitution :thumbsup

Government is really simple if you just follow the instructions.

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13641139)
Dr. Paul is a great idea man, just read/listen to him, he has the best ideas ever... But that's all they are, ideas. With no game plan to back them up.


notoldschool 01-12-2008 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13644114)
The "game plan" was already written. It is called The Constitution :thumbsup

Government is really simple if you just follow the instructions.

Quoted for truth.

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13643368)
They think the south should have won.

Who are you referring to?

TheDoc 01-12-2008 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 13644114)
The "game plan" was already written. It is called The Constitution :thumbsup

Government is really simple if you just follow the instructions.

The constitution isn't a game plan, it's an idea on how to run the Gov. A game plan would be telling us how he is going to achieve some of more complex goals.

SifuE 01-12-2008 11:04 PM

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