Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13801091)

Have any lawyers ever weighed in on the subject of the possibility of tube advertisers being sued for contributory copyright infringement?

http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/wh...nfringem_1.php

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13801091)

Have any lawyers ever weighed in on the subject of the possibility of tube advertisers being sued for contributory copyright infringement?

http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/wh...nfringem_1.php

Originally Posted by Nookster (Post 13801373)

No affiliate code means he bought the spot. Can't say it surprises me at all from him. It's also amazing how so many people in this thread haven't even looked at the page.

Originally Posted by Nookster (Post 13801373)

No affiliate code means he bought the spot.

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13801391)

It looks more like redtube missed that - they were supposed to include their aff code there, but forgot. If Paul bought the spot, it would be just linked directly to the .com domain.

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 13801091)

Have any lawyers ever weighed in on the subject of the possibility of tube advertisers being sued for contributory copyright infringement?

http://www.quizlaw.com/copyrights/wh...nfringem_1.php

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13801412)

GFY needs to put the crackpipe down in regards to advertisers getting sued. It's never going to happen.

Advertisers play ZERO role in what gets posted to the infringing website. They MIGHT be helping them to stay open, but that is virtually impossible to prove since there could be other sources of income for the site or even just operating at a loss until buyout.

Contributory infringement would actually be for the tube site itself since the direct infringer would be the surfer who uploaded it.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13799804)

Thanks Falcon for the link.

This is my last word on this and all you who send us traffic can stop doing so if they don't like my reply. All those who buy content can also stop buying. The rest of you can keep not sending and not buying.

This is business and our first loyalty is to our family, then employees, then affiliates. People in the business are a bit further down the list and posters on GFY come very low.

We're giving Red Tube and other tube sites free content if they sign up or if they don't sign up. Content with our URL on and hopefully they will have a banner next to my content. we're looking for traffic. We will also be putting up an area in the affiliates section designed for Tube sites.

If you guys had been sending lots of sign ups and buying lots of content you would have some sway in how we run my business. If you are in this position please email so we can discuss it.

If you're not then you have no involvement in how we run our business. We will continue to support the efforts of www.removeyourcontent.com. Who sadly are banned from here. You might like to ask the moderators why that is.

Will and Tony. We can't pay the bills with your respect. How much traffic or content did you send or buy from me when you had the "respect" you lost? Think about it. Because maybe if you were doing either or both we would not be going the route we are.

Originally Posted by Dennis Rodman (Post 13799795)

Creative magic links created by a 90 year old dinosaur thinking that if it was placed this way, it would not be his fault and the GFYers and adult webmastering community would not blame him.

The sad part is that the old mother fucker tends to forget that we are the ones that pay monthly bandwidth bills, and we know what type of TBs these cocksuckers are going through, so they would not for ONE FUCKING SECOND send a surfer to a link unless the ad was paid for. Especially on a semi-high traffic site like that one.

It's called falt fee advertising. They have been paid, and my name isn't on the check. Who do you think signed it? fucking idiot. :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by xclusive (Post 13799807)

We're all fucked now they have all our content and Magic join links:(

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 13801412)

GFY needs to put the crackpipe down in regards to advertisers getting sued. It's never going to happen.

Advertisers play ZERO role in what gets posted to the infringing website. They MIGHT be helping them to stay open, but that is virtually impossible to prove since there could be other sources of income for the site or even just operating at a loss until buyout.

Contributory infringement would actually be for the tube site itself since the direct infringer would be the surfer who uploaded it.

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 13802842)

I wonder if your business isn't slow because of all the bad decisions you made, like this one just now.

Seriously, you seem to make 1 bad decision after another. You just lost all my respect and traffic because of your post.

:(

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13802863)

That's what Fred Goldman is doing, Bt's were giving away the OJ book he has the legal rights to. His lawyer we cant stop them from giving it away but they can do it from the poor house. They win it sets precedent the house of cards will fall.

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13803023)

Ya Fred Goldman will stop em. :thumbsup :uhoh Seriously so if you stop torrents or tubes what next? Ever hear of FIOS ? Next will be a group of people sharing files via msn messenger or yahoo. Person to person a few hours if that to send a full dvd once fiber becomes the standard. Enough with the naive and wasted effort of trying to stop this shit post theft. THE ONLY WAY to stop piracy is to keep the content from being stolen in the first place. This means industry wide changes. This means the content we give out must be rented not owned by the member. People with the big money need to unite together to come up with a solution. Newsgroups got stopped right? lol

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 13801398)

Well one way or another nobody promotes Paul program so he have nothing to lose.

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic (Post 13801368)

why on earth would anyone not see this as a step forward? Wouldn't everyone want them to list content given to them by sponsors and not stolen?

Regardless of the length of videos they show, which has NOTHING to to with it, this is a new affiliate for PM and if they stopped all together using stolen content and worked with sponsors to use content provided than this is a step forward isn't it?
If anyone thinks youtube sites are not here to stay then you are in for a rough few years. :2 cents: They are here to stay and I see this as a possitive step forward.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13803794)

not going to happen.

1. you are trusting theives. bad move, you going to get fucked.
2. If the illegal tube site went to all sponsor approved content it would be a site full of short videos. Then they would lose market share to other illegal tube sites that show full length videos. The length of the video does matter. You not going to find many sponsors if any who are going to approve the use of their videos that are more than a couple minutes long.
3. Shap (Twistys) already tried to work with redtube and they screwed him.

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic (Post 13803898)

1. Yes I agree, which is why I wouldnt deal with them

2. Things are changing, if they are willing to pay for the b/w then there is no reason why full length movies isnt a legitimate marketing tool. Those webmasters who think they are competing with you tube sites are dead in the water this year. you tubes are not going anywhere. The argument about the length of videos is outdated and wrong. It is the same argument as 3 years ago saying tgp's give away to much content :2 cents:

3. See 1)

Originally Posted by FreeOnes (Post 13804061)

Paul Markham is one of the very few sponsors we don't promote...

Originally Posted by Johny Traffic (Post 13803898)

1. Yes I agree, which is why I wouldnt deal with them

2. Things are changing, if they are willing to pay for the b/w then there is no reason why full length movies isnt a legitimate marketing tool. Those webmasters who think they are competing with you tube sites are dead in the water this year. you tubes are not going anywhere. The argument about the length of videos is outdated and wrong. It is the same argument as 3 years ago saying tgp's give away to much content :2 cents:

3. See 1)

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13804294)

I dont think it is the same arguement, with tgps / mgps people were worried about giving away too much, with full length videos you are not giving away " too much" you are giving it all away.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13799888)

Thanks Will. With Webstream going down we had few options. Maybe long term it will hurt, but our problems are short term ones today. My stand on Pirates and Acacia shows my ethics.

Anyone who wants to put their money where their mouth is and buy some content or send some traffic can flame us or even change our way of thinking. Those who choose not to buy or send traffic are part of the reason we had no options.

Yes this is my last word on this.

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13804294)

So you are saying that a tube site with hour long videos is going to be just as popular as one with 2 min videos?

Or are you saying that sponsors giving away full length video clips is not going to hurt sales to their sites but instead help them get more sales ? (picture and video membership sites not cam,dating, etc..)

I dont think it is the same arguement, with tgps / mgps people were worried about giving away too much, with full length videos you are not giving away " too much" you are giving it all away.

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13801391)

It looks more like redtube missed that - they were supposed to include their aff code there, but forgot. If Paul bought the spot, it would be just linked directly to the .com domain.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13799688)

Very sad I had alot of respect for him.

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 13805041)

Paul says here something funny
http://www.gfy.com/13790643-post61.html
This on the issue that webcams.com runs a tubesite

Originally Posted by beemk (Post 13805074)

did you ever think that if you spent all the time you spend crying and worrying about other peoples business on doing something productive you wouldn't be so unsuccessful? you're probably going to get offended, but if you listen to my advice and try it sometime you will make a lot more money.