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What is going one here? Lets just get back to selling porn. Fuck all the bullshit.

No, what I am saying is unless you have invented a time machine and can go back and uninvent you tubes then you have to either learn to adapt and try and work with it or find a different job.

Those who think that you cant sell porn, because someone is giving a movie away for free has a very steep learning curve and need to learn why people pay for porn. Free porn has always been around. Far more was passed around free way before the internet was invented.

Those who think they are losing sales because of tube sites and want it all to go back to how it was before tube sites were invented, will be of little relevance soon, because they wont be here.

Free sites have now evolved. They are not going anywhere, no chest banging or shouting on GFY is going to turn the clocks back.

Pay sites have to sell to the customer by offing the customer what he wants. Offering something more, better. Not by trying to force the customer into signing up because they cant find free porn somewhere else.

Unfortunatly most webmasters cant understand this simple point and think some magic is going to happen and we will all go back to better days before tube sites. But like I said, no matter as those webmasters wont be here much longer

LOL

Maybe someone will come up with the great idea of Tube2 sites like the TGP2 sites.

Not going to happen. Forget it. Tube sites are not going anywhere. Learn to live with it, offer something better or find a new job

What is really going on here?

Ooooh I see, now I get it....I have to offer 5 hour free videos. Thanks for the lesson, off to work I go...

Actually TGP2 worked on the idea of giving less to the surfer rather than more.... so one would assume given his argument of Tube2 that it would give less too :)

Not that either method did or would work because water doesn't flow up hill.

Well if you think that to compete with a tube site you need to offer 5 hour free videos then its best you start looking for a new job now. I cant keep repeating this if you wont listen.

Tube sites are not going anywhere

Exactly. It wouldnt work and isnt going to happen anyway.

Tube sites are going to get bigger offer better vids, longer vids and more vids and there is going to be more and more tube sites. All competing to give the best vids available.

Those who think the way to deal with this FACT is to shout on GFY about getting them shut down are of little consiquence, as they wont be here in a year anyway.

Tube sites are going no where. Learn to live with it or learn to flip burgers

Man, you hit the nail on the head. Nice to see someone else with sense around here, I was kind of thinking all sense went out the window.

tell us how you really feel:upsidedow

New Tube Sites are like the war on drugs, you cant stop it, theres going to be huge demand for free movie porn until the end of time. Either figure out a way to profit from it or get in a business that wont be cannibalized by tube sites. You cant tell me you didnt see it coming, PaulM is just getting with the times

:2 cents:

So, you agree with this then ? http://www.viraldiscussion.com/post/...n-adapt-or-die

People with sense round here? :upsidedow

Its become like watching monkeys at the zoo here. Amusing once a year for about 1/2 an hour. Those with sense like to watch the monkeys beating their chests and swinging from one dum ass idea to the next :winkwink:

You all keep forgetting the industry all goes tube crazy full scenes given away. Governments around the world are going to start filtering out porn. Now I know the adapt or die crowd and the short term thinkers have a hard time with this.
We know for the most part politicians are not the most net savy bunch. Bt's,newsgroups even tgps its foreign but a tube site just click and there is a full length anal scene.
All you forward thinkers have to start thinking outside your own little industry . Porn has always been sold behind counters, in shops with darkened windows. Since its not open access its been tolerated.
Because things for the first time have gotten slow,people are scared and are going to embrace the giving the house away mentality. We are on the road to being banned off the web. Mark my words and then people will cry its not fair ,they are picking on us.If we dont police ourselves others will do it for us.

Paul,

The logic leading up to your conclusions is OK - that it comes down to money being the first priority. But in the end your conclusion that you should partake in the adult tube phenomenon is most probably incorrect. We tried a bit of tube traffic maybe 6-9 months ago... it was LOUSY. There are definitely MUCH better ways to get traffic even in the short term - not to mention that over the long term tube sites may make it a LOT more difficult to SELL any adult video product on the web.

You should reconsider.

:2 cents::thumbsup

Looks like redtube is run by an idiot, LOL..
His affiliate link is missing his ccbill id :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I wonder if you would agree with my thoughts on this matter (link in sig).

It's Paul's content he can do whatever the fuck he likes with it.

He has a program that has affilliates, so doing whatever the fuck he likes comes at the cost of his affiliates, and therefore comes at the cost of himself...

Hahaha so the poor guy is on the verge of going skint? NICE ONE.

its thier free choise to be or not to be an affiliate of Paul's prog - they can go away anytime I guess

This is true....He has the right to do whatever the fuck he wants...I clowned him about the young wife and all but hell, he has a family to feed...

At least Paul didn't put a BS spin on it like Twistys did...Paul acted like a man and basically said , "I'm going to do this and if you don't like it, fuck off"...

He specializes in vanilla porn with run of the mill eastern European teen girl stock...That's the WORST thing to be selling right now...Maybe because I'm not in the teen niche but I can't recognize paul's content from any other teen content out there.