Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13822644)

anyone else putting 2 and 2 together here?

Brazzers own pornhub.com It was full of stolen content then got called out on GFY and Brazzers blammed it on "partners" and claim they had nothing to do with it they are just silent partners. The site gets cleaned up over night.

Brazzers advertises on several illegal tube sites next to stolen content.

Twistys *claims* to have spent millions fighting stolen content but then does business with Redtube. They get called out for it and fucked by redtube so they stop.

So of all sites, Twistys chooses to do business and cross sales with Brazzers.

Shap owns Gaytube.com which was full of stolen content and gets called out on GFY, over night the stolen content is removed.

Pornhub and gaytube hosted at the same company. How many connections and similarities are there between Brazzers and Shap. Seems like these two people come from the same school of thought and i would bet anything there are doing some major deals and idea sharing behind the scenes.

Originally Posted by fuckingfuck (Post 13822934)

It's a shame that they were caught at alexa ranking 2000, before they could reach top 200. with only 1-2 min videos it's only downhill from here :)

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13822969)

I am not sticking up for any one side here - but, if he wants to shove full vids on the site he can. They are in no way restricted to 1-2 min clips.

He owns massive amounts of content.

Originally Posted by fuckingfuck (Post 13822981)

The difference is this: Unlike straight porn, best gay porn is produced by a few studios and CCBill programs who want to keep all the vids exclusive to their own programs... So none of those titles are available in content stores or VOD.

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13822996)

There are 1000's of gay DVDs on sale for the trade.

OK, he cant use the best - but he is far from restricted to 1-2 min clips.

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13822969)

I am not sticking up for any one side here - but, if he wants to shove full vids on the site he can. They are in no way restricted to 1-2 min clips.

He owns massive amounts of content.

Originally Posted by fuckingfuck (Post 13823014)

How do you know that the licenses he has cover that kind of use in a tube site?

Originally Posted by Daruma (Post 13823118)

someone register and startup ShapTube.com (its available) and nail every one of his videos on the site

Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13822763)

What I was trying to say was that you CANT run a legit tube site with user submits.

How many "moderaters' do you think RedTube would have needed when it was open submit?

It would have been a MASSIVE job. Not 1 or 2 people but dozens... have you looked at there stats?

It can only be done by the book if it is 'owner submitted'.

Originally Posted by MPGdevil (Post 13824561)

If you can't run a legit site because of lack of time or resources to check submissions, maybe you shouldn't accept submissions to begin with :2 cents:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13822714)

if it is true. why are people surprised?
fuck i been telling you people all along that good people are going to go to the dark side to compete.
more coming. mark my words.

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 13826700)

Did I miss something... In that other thread Shap says he doesn't run anything illegal... But if he was hosting videos that he didn't have the rights to, then that would be illegal... and those videos were there one minute and gone the next right?... Has he actually responded with more than "we dont' run anything illegal" or has he just gotten threads locked instead....

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 13824680)

People just dont understand why tube sites can even operate without 2257 info. I REALLY wish someone would CLEARLY explain 2257 and user uploaded material, and dmca requests to the masses. Its an all or nothing situation.

Originally Posted by ladida (Post 13826879)

Lol. Shap's doing the "if you want to make money talk to me ...." routine. Lol. Or the "watch out, you'll get banned", or "you'll deal with my attorneys".

Did you go bellow 10k members or what?

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 13826845)

Tempest and anybody else who wants to talk business or ask me a question email me at shap at twistys dot com. I'm not going to waste my time addressing people who are anonymous and own nothing. Those who want to do business and make money know where to hit me up :thumbsup

Originally Posted by ronbotx (Post 13827516)

I would guarantee that if anything illegal was being hosted at Swifwill however, that dweeks from Swiftwill would terminate them. They have got to be the most honest and ethical host in this biz.

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20518160)

Here we go again with this dumb shit.

Somebody nobody cares about bumping old threads nobody cares about.

Yay! Here's your cookie.

Also, under shap, gaytube.com was a boon to any gay program. They sent so many sales. I do not remember any piracy issues with them.