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CurrentlySober 03-04-2008 02:16 PM

i like poo

TMM_John 03-04-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 13869543)
:2 cents:

So yeah, when are we actually going to hear something NATS?

As I've said in the threads, unfortunately there is nothing new to report and no one has been caught. These things aren't as easy as some people like to pretend they are.

The issue was fixed months ago. If we have any updates on finding anything else out about it they will be made.

CyberHustler 03-04-2008 02:18 PM

Oh, the sweet smell of smegma! :thumbsup

cykoe6 03-04-2008 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13868941)
This whole secrecy about who made money from the leaks makes it hard for me to trust them...

Was there ever any police report filled about this ? I asked this questions 10 times during the drama. Never got any answers.

That dumb fucker making Nats threads everyday made the attention go away from the problem onto him...

I agree. I thought Nats received a great deal of unfair criticism form a certain person but a refusal to respond to even reasonable inquires makes it seem like they are hiding something. Rushing to get Will76 banned for politely inquiring into the issue raises even more doubts. As an affiliate I also resent the repeated implication that only programs who purchase Nats have a legitimate interest in the issue as opposed to affiliates who are supposed to trust in the integrity of the software. :2 cents:

dav3 03-04-2008 03:46 PM

> > S E E > > S I G > >

Violetta 03-04-2008 03:51 PM

im not doing a good sigwhoring job today1

Jens Van Assterdam 03-04-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockatansky (Post 13870026)
im not doing a good sigwhoring job today1

me neither :(

GrouchyAdmin 03-04-2008 03:54 PM

As you weren't stating anything that wasn't said before, and you weren't making any claims without base, this isn't worth a ban, even if I find you to be a self-professed" savior of the industry," and annoying as hell.

Just my opinion.

Celeb Fan 03-04-2008 03:59 PM

i wont be surprised if someone can pay to have someone banned on this board.

sure looks like it

TMM_John 03-04-2008 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 13869770)
I agree. I thought Nats received a great deal of unfair criticism form a certain person but a refusal to respond to even reasonable inquires makes it seem like they are hiding something. Rushing to get Will76 banned for politely inquiring into the issue raises even more doubts. As an affiliate I also resent the repeated implication that only programs who purchase Nats have a legitimate interest in the issue as opposed to affiliates who are supposed to trust in the integrity of the software. :2 cents:

The security issue was just as much of an issue for affiliates as it was for program owners. I'd like anyone to show me where I've said otherwise as I don't believe. If I ever have, I was wrong, but I really don't see that as something I'd ever say as I don't believe it to be true. You have as much interest in it as people who run NATS.

I have no problem answering questions about it, any questions, I'm just tired of doing it here with dozens of fake nicks, trolls, etc. running around. And it was gone about in totally the wrong fashion in that thread. If something is so important to you and you're wondering about it for months you don't dive into a special offer thread with it. I'm easy to contact. It hasn't been the first time he's given me a hard time either. I didn't go running to Eric right away, inf act I didn't even mention Will to Eric until the next day when he tried to start an anonymous drama thread about my company. I guess jumping into the first thread with drama wasn't enough for him.

The check was fedexed out to Webmaster Toy Run today btw.

Again, I am more than happy to answer any questions from NATS users or affiliates. I'm just done doing it here. It just ends up wasting time with people who aren't even in this biz or fake nicks, etc. If you are an affiliate still feel free to contact me. I'm more than happy to discuss it with you.

munki 03-04-2008 04:08 PM

50 bannings...

will76 03-04-2008 05:12 PM

John you just don't stop. You keep going and going and going no matter how wrong you are, your pride just wont let you accept the fact you are wrong. I have a problem with keeping things going too, but christ man, I would never do it when I am wrong about something, I would just let it die if that was the case. (thats my advice to you let it die, you are wrong).

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13870097)
I have no problem answering questions about it, any questions, I'm just tired of doing it here with dozens of fake nicks, trolls, etc. running around. And it was gone about in totally the wrong fashion in that thread.

So John, you don't have a problem making posts about NATS on GFY when you are trying to sell NATS licenses? The trolls and fake nicks don't bother you then when you are trying to make sales? But when people who use your product like myself (neither of which am I a troll or fake nick) ask you an honest legit question, for a simple update from you, then you wont talk about that here??? WTF, GFY is only ok to spam and try to make sales but not good enough to give updates about your company to people who use it???

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
If something is so important to you and you're wondering about it for months you don't dive into a special offer thread with it. I'm easy to contact.

It wasn't something I had been thinking about for months actually. I had kind of forgot about it to be honest. You stopped posting here back in Dec, anyone can go look and see you pretty much made no posts on GFY back in Jan, Feb. When I saw you post, it made me remember what had happened. I thought this is nice, hey look John is back and he is trying to get people to buy NATS licenses. Haven't heard anything about this in a while, obviously if he is on here trying to make sales he can give us a little update and let us know if the people have be caught, how the investigation is going, etc... is that too much to ask? (obviously)

But you want me to contact you privately. Sorry John, I prefer not to. After having you contact me SEVERAL times about segpay/ibill telling me I am wrong I should trust you, etc.. It made me not want to talk to you. There is no "talking to you" there is only your opinion and what you want everyone to believe. Not to mention the NATS problem affected 1000s of people many of which who post here. Many of them said they wanted an update too, so what was the harm to reply " hey sorry no update yet". BOOM, it would have been over with. Nope not for John he wants to turn it into a pissing match and then answer the question 30 posts later after HE gets the drama going.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
It hasn't been the first time he's given me a hard time either. I didn't go running to Eric right away, inf act I didn't even mention Will to Eric until the next day when he tried to start an anonymous drama thread about my company. I guess jumping into the first thread with drama wasn't enough for him.

What? an anonymous drama thread??? I didn't even name you in the thread, you out'ed yourself. I just wanted the situation resolved, i didnt want drama IF I WOULD HAVE WANTED DRAMA I WOULD HAVE NAMED YOU IN THE TITLE YOU DUMB ASS. I figured if I make a post on gfy and give you 24 hours to pay up it would do the trick and it did. The only reason there was drama because you choose to out yourself. Anyone can read that thread and see that you handled that wrong John, I didn't want drama I just wanted you to pay on a contest that you ran in JULY, and you were 8 months late on paying. You were suppose to send the money to a charity back in December but you said you were "too busy".

Here is that thread: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/812195-board-lied-donation.html read it for yourself. John calls that me trying to start drama. I call that trying to get a dead beat to pay on an 8th month old contest, and 3months past due to a charity. I didn't even name you and I was going to keep it quiet if you paid, but your ego messed that up for you. :upsidedow nice job there John.


Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn
The check was fedexed out to Webmaster Toy Run today btw.

Thank you Charlie.

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn

Again, I am more than happy to answer any questions from NATS users or affiliates. I'm just done doing it here. It just ends up wasting time with people who aren't even in this biz or fake nicks, etc. If you are an affiliate still feel free to contact me. I'm more than happy to discuss it with you.


So basically that means: " I am done answering questions I don't like but I will continue to spam my services here.... :upsidedow"

I am now closing down ICQ so i can get some work done. Continue to try to spin and protect your ego john and say its all my fault blah blah blah. Bottom line is, you attacked me and called me an asshole because you were to busy to pay a contest off 8 months ago and too busy to send money to charity 3 months ago. God forbid i ask you to make the payment. Oh and I asked for an update about nats too...NATS problems that were nationally broadcasted, but no updates have been made by NATS about it since. i am scum of the earth how dare I ask for such things, silly me I can only talk about nats and say stuff like " wow nice feature" I am not allowed to ask publicly, " hey how is that investigation going?".

Eric 03-04-2008 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13870339)
John you just don't stop. You keep going and going and going no matter how wrong you are, your pride just wont let you accept the fact you are wrong. I have a problem with keeping things going too, but christ man, I would never do it when I am wrong about something, I would just let it die if that was the case. (thats my advice to you let it die, you are wrong).



So John, you don't have a problem making posts about NATS on GFY when you are trying to sell NATS licenses? The trolls and fake nicks don't bother you then when you are trying to make sales? But when people who use your product like myself (neither of which am I a troll or fake nick) ask you an honest legit question, for a simple update from you, then you wont talk about that here??? WTF, GFY is only ok to spam and try to make sales but not good enough to give updates about your company to people who use it???


It wasn't something I had been thinking about for months actually. I had kind of forgot about it to be honest. You stopped posting here back in Dec, anyone can go look and see you pretty much made no posts on GFY back in Jan, Feb. When I saw you post, it made me remember what had happened. I thought this is nice, hey look John is back and he is trying to get people to buy NATS licenses. Haven't heard anything about this in a while, obviously if he is on here trying to make sales he can give us a little update and let us know if the people have be caught, how the investigation is going, etc... is that too much to ask? (obviously)

But you want me to contact you privately. Sorry John, I prefer not to. After having you contact me SEVERAL times about segpay/ibill telling me I am wrong I should trust you, etc.. It made me not want to talk to you. There is no "talking to you" there is only your opinion and what you want everyone to believe. Not to mention the NATS problem affected 1000s of people many of which who post here. Many of them said they wanted an update too, so what was the harm to reply " hey sorry no update yet". BOOM, it would have been over with. Nope not for John he wants to turn it into a pissing match and then answer the question 30 posts later after HE gets the drama going.



What? an anonymous drama thread??? I didn't even name you in the thread, you out'ed yourself. I just wanted the situation resolved, i didnt want drama IF I WOULD HAVE WANTED DRAMA I WOULD HAVE NAMED YOU IN THE TITLE YOU DUMB ASS. I figured if I make a post on gfy and give you 24 hours to pay up it would do the trick and it did. The only reason there was drama because you choose to out yourself. Anyone can read that thread and see that you handled that wrong John, I didn't want drama I just wanted you to pay on a contest that you ran in JULY, and you were 8 months late on paying. You were suppose to send the money to a charity back in December but you said you were "too busy".

Here is that thread: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/812195-board-lied-donation.html read it for yourself. John calls that me trying to start drama. I call that trying to get a dead beat to pay on an 8th month old contest, and 3months past due to a charity. I didn't even name you and I was going to keep it quiet if you paid, but your ego messed that up for you. :upsidedow nice job there John.




Thank you Charlie.




So basically that means: " I am done answering questions I don't like but I will continue to spam my services here.... :upsidedow"

I am now closing down ICQ so i can get some work done. Continue to try to spin and protect your ego john and say its all my fault blah blah blah. Bottom line is, you attacked me and called me an asshole because you were to busy to pay a contest off 8 months ago and too busy to send money to charity 3 months ago. God forbid i ask you to make the payment. Oh and I asked for an update about nats too...NATS problems that were nationally broadcasted, but no updates have been made by NATS about it since. i am scum of the earth how dare I ask for such things, silly me I can only talk about nats and say stuff like " wow nice feature" I am not allowed to ask publicly, " hey how is that investigation going?".


Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

BradM 03-04-2008 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13870397)
Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

Thank god. That guy was probably good for the industry, but I just can't stand people that can't stop when they are told.

tony286 03-04-2008 05:29 PM

You know I have great respect for you Eric but it seems the rules are changing on GFY. If thats the case maybe the rules should be amended so we are all crystal clear. John choose to come into will's anonymous thread instead of contacting him directly. It was his contest his responsibility. I want to know exactly what rules are so I don't break them, if ad buyers are hands off I would like to know. I like this board and dont want to lose my water cooler. :)

tiger 03-04-2008 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13870397)
Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

Wow. :2 cents:

Celeb Fan 03-04-2008 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13870432)
You know I have great respect for you Eric but it seems the rules are changing on GFY.)

Whoever pays the most wins.


TEE HEE!

BradM 03-04-2008 05:37 PM

Hmmmmmmm, does adult.com run NATS?

Imortyl Pussycat 03-04-2008 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Juicy D. Links (Post 13869121)
Will i can fasttrack your Bro application lmk

LMAO :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

F-U-Jimmy 03-04-2008 05:38 PM

This is fucked up , i dont think Will should be banned for asking questions no matter how sensitive they may be :321GFY

cykoe6 03-04-2008 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 13870473)
This is fucked up , i dont think Will should be banned for asking questions no matter how sensitive they may be :321GFY

Agreed. :2 cents:

CyberHustler 03-04-2008 05:40 PM

Truly unbelievable... :Oh crap

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-04-2008 05:40 PM

He'll be back.

Pah lease...
Like banned for ever? LOL Not gonna happen people like to read Will76 for some reason. He seems to be pretty good in the Regurgitated everybody knows already beaten like a dead horse bullshit that spawns itself here repeatedly day in and out.

Fetish Videos 03-04-2008 05:57 PM

He'll be back, but for chrissakes if Eric tells you to leave it alone, leave it alone...

psili 03-04-2008 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13870397)
Will I told you to drop this and you couldn't do it. So Goodbye

You're a fucking dipshit.
Or your boss is.
Whatever.

The fucking dude at least makes some decent threads, with some sort of substance, that generate sig views. And you ban him.

Fan fucking tastic... The "pie", "emu", "I'm Juicy's bot" threads get to keep going, though.

Bake 03-04-2008 06:08 PM

Can I get the last word in?

Sly 03-04-2008 06:10 PM

Can we also get rid of some of those "I love pie" threads as well?

Celeb Fan 03-04-2008 06:11 PM

Folks, stick a fork into this place.

Nazi mods ruined it.

rowan 03-04-2008 06:13 PM

+1 for bringing will76 back. He may sound like a broken record sometimes, but at least he's passionate about his cause(es). How would anything change for the better if everyone stayed quiet and didn't say a word about what they thought was right or wrong?

candyflip 03-04-2008 06:16 PM

Maybe the plan is to actually kill this place and drive everyone off.

Brujah 03-04-2008 06:18 PM

What the fuck Eric? Really, think about this a bit more.

John's a goddamn stick of dynamite.

psili 03-04-2008 06:26 PM

Here. I'll write the press release to help GFY throw this shit under the rug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric
We at GFY do not support threads that could hurt our advertisement revenue. Threads about Pies, Emus, fuckable flashlights, shit like that -- completely acceptable and welcome. Bring your bots. Threads that may expose our paying advertisers or someone we at GFY may do business with in a way that may look bad, you're fucked. Any questions, please direct them to [email protected].


L-Pink 03-04-2008 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13869523)
Same here.. It is quite funny how it all just disappeared and was never talked about again. I still see it as a very "shady" deal. When you take into consideration that John also ran Pornograph.com and it was "supposedly" sold just prior to it being used to infect thousands of webmasters sites with Trojans. He wouldn't talk about that either.

So John has a shady past and is far to quiet, about BS that has fucked over hundreds if not thousands of webmasters. Yet he remains silent and wont give any of us any updates as if none of us deserve it or should know. Seems like history repeating it's self.. so what will be next?

:2 cents: :thumbsup

And I applaud Will for asking what a lot of us are wondering.

Tempest 03-04-2008 06:36 PM

Should have just given him a timeout instead of a ban... PBucksJohn is the one that created the drama, not will76.

hmmm.. didn't PBucksJohn say awhile back he wouldn't be posting on here anymore because of all the trolls and fake nicks etc. And yet he plops himself right down and stirs up some drama... I love how he just can't help himself and then bitches about it when it gets out of hand... Give them both a timeout IMO.

FreeHugeMovies 03-04-2008 06:45 PM

LQQKs like Will got the Axe

Wiredoctor 03-04-2008 06:46 PM

WOW is all that comes to mind here. This is very interresting/disturbing to say the least. Will should NOT have been banned for this. John spams on the board, so if you live by the boards you also die by the boards. Will only asked legit questions that I know MANY people wanted to hear answers to.:2 cents:

Brujah 03-04-2008 06:50 PM

WOW are you trying to get banned also? Posting links to other forums

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-04-2008 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiredoctor (Post 13870769)
WOW is all that comes to mind here. This is very interresting/disturbing to say the least. Will should NOT have been banned for this. John spams on the board, so if you live by the boards you also die by the boards. Will only asked legit questions that I know MANY people wanted to hear answers to.:2 cents:


The answer's were already given as to what occured.

L-Pink 03-04-2008 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brujah (Post 13870787)
...

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Wiredoctor 03-04-2008 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 13870790)
The answer's were already given as to what occured.

NO they were not answered completely and still have not.:2 cents:


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