Originally Posted by minddust (Post 13871363)

FREE WILL76

:upsidedow

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13871256)

what the fuck ever

will is a great guy and does a lot for the industry, but any idiot knows that a lot of the issues going on with nats deal with pending litigation or even if they don't can't be brought up on boards due to lawyers recommendations, and pushing the issue is just an idiotic move, especially when john would probably be more than happy to chat privately about it all

will does do some good for the industry, but jesus he takes shit too far sometimes

Originally Posted by hostile_anal_invasion (Post 13871369)

Fuck you Will76 and anybody that supports your tainted fucking intent you ass crust!



Will76 is no fucking good.

Originally Posted by hostile_anal_invasion (Post 13871369)

Fuck you Will76 and anybody that supports your tainted fucking intent you ass crust!



Will76 is no fucking good.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13870906)

Will was not banned for asking questions, raising issues, or even for pushing the limits. Will was banned because he was asked and warned repeatedly to take the issue off the boards. He could not do so, therefore proving he could not control himself.
Act like a child and be treated like a child.

Originally Posted by hershie (Post 13871265)

I have never felt as dirty about coming to GFY as I do now.

It's OK for nazi's to spew hate on GFY but dare cross Eric when discussing a serious business subject...

Originally Posted by hungry hungry hippy (Post 13871429)

i'm beginning to wonder how much the higher ups here are getting paid off to crush this issue :2 cents:

there's no reason this should not be public other than wanting to keep it silenced. the whole thing reeks of shady back room deals.

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13871380)

I support will :)

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13871373)

If that was the case why didnt John just say that? It was all over the newspapers they even interviewed Gonzo. Porn buyers read papers so it involves alot of people.To ask for update I dont think is too much considering one was never given. Then on the other thread he didnt even mention John and John came in great guns.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13871567)

I don't quite feel right addressing this as Will can't reply to it. But I wanted to respond to this.

Reread the original thread. He is the one who started to get nasty. His first post even stated things like "and I know I am violating a bro rule" and "So is it still 'on going' or is it just 'forget and move on' time."

My first response back to him was simply "If someone wants to discuss that they're more than welcome to contact me.". Not looking to be rude or nasty. Just a simple straight forward reply. I'm tired of having discussions here where random trolls jump into it with nonsense. However as I have stated many times I'm more than happy to discuss it with anyone.

Then he comes back with


All I had said was to contact me about. Not that he was an asshole or any of this other stuff.

Its at this point I put him on ignore.

He has been making comments about my companies a number of times over the past few months. He has a history of picking targets and making his crusade against them. What got him thinking we should be his next crusade I have no idea, but it was becoming quite obvious to me.

After I put him on ignore a few other people expressed interest in it so I decided to give a basic answer and if anyone wanted any more details to feel free to contact me. A few did and I discussed it with them.

Will then decides to keep going off in the thread about the same thing over and over again. His question was already answered at this point. However I don't reply to him as I don't see a point in fighting with him over it. I didn't attack him when he came in the thread. I simply pointed out to contact me about it.

Apparently I pissed Will of by putting him on ignore here on this board so I could avoid reading his constant repeating of the same thing and focus on the reason we started the thread, a special offer and getting feedback on the upcoming release of a major product in this industry.

This seemed to spur him to create a thread the next day anonymously calling me out about a charity donation being late. This was a mistake on our part. No question about it. I never denied that, I simply believed he was wrong how he went about it. I truly believe that if the original thread didn't happen this thread wouldn't have been created. He could have ICQ'd me, but because he was angry he decided to make a threating thread here about it. This seems spiteful to me. This is a donation, and again, we dropped the ball on being late with it, but it is still something that shouldn't be used to create drama here because he was aggravated in a thread the day before.

Now this new thread continues to go on and on. Eric warned him multiple times to just resolve the issue and move on. He refused to do so. Even creating more threads about the entire situation after the fact.

Again, I feel a bit odd posting this with Will not here and Eric if you'd like to unban him I have no objection to it at all. However, I do feel that Will was the one out of line here. He has made a pattern of making off base comments about my companies the past few months, he jumped into a thread here with something that could have been handled separately or even privately, and he continued to carry on about it after several warnings from the person who runs this board. And believe me, Eric warned me to not go back at him also, several times, and I didn't. He wasn't playing favors, he was being fair across the board.

Will was the one who was wrong here, not myself. The only thing I was wrong on was dropping the ball with the timeliness of the donation to WMTR, which I have never denied.

Also, while speaking about Eric. We haven't bought advertising here in a long time. He isn't playing favors to someone buying ads. Those calling into question his integrity over that are way way off.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13871567)

I don't quite feel right addressing this as Will can't reply to it. But I wanted to respond to this.

Reread the original thread. He is the one who started to get nasty. His first post even stated things like "and I know I am violating a bro rule" and "So is it still 'on going' or is it just 'forget and move on' time."

My first response back to him was simply "If someone wants to discuss that they're more than welcome to contact me.". Not looking to be rude or nasty. Just a simple straight forward reply. I'm tired of having discussions here where random trolls jump into it with nonsense. However as I have stated many times I'm more than happy to discuss it with anyone.

Then he comes back with


All I had said was to contact me about. Not that he was an asshole or any of this other stuff.

Its at this point I put him on ignore.

He has been making comments about my companies a number of times over the past few months. He has a history of picking targets and making his crusade against them. What got him thinking we should be his next crusade I have no idea, but it was becoming quite obvious to me.

After I put him on ignore a few other people expressed interest in it so I decided to give a basic answer and if anyone wanted any more details to feel free to contact me. A few did and I discussed it with them.

Will then decides to keep going off in the thread about the same thing over and over again. His question was already answered at this point. However I don't reply to him as I don't see a point in fighting with him over it. I didn't attack him when he came in the thread. I simply pointed out to contact me about it.

Apparently I pissed Will of by putting him on ignore here on this board so I could avoid reading his constant repeating of the same thing and focus on the reason we started the thread, a special offer and getting feedback on the upcoming release of a major product in this industry.

This seemed to spur him to create a thread the next day anonymously calling me out about a charity donation being late. This was a mistake on our part. No question about it. I never denied that, I simply believed he was wrong how he went about it. I truly believe that if the original thread didn't happen this thread wouldn't have been created. He could have ICQ'd me, but because he was angry he decided to make a threating thread here about it. This seems spiteful to me. This is a donation, and again, we dropped the ball on being late with it, but it is still something that shouldn't be used to create drama here because he was aggravated in a thread the day before.

Now this new thread continues to go on and on. Eric warned him multiple times to just resolve the issue and move on. He refused to do so. Even creating more threads about the entire situation after the fact.

Again, I feel a bit odd posting this with Will not here and Eric if you'd like to unban him I have no objection to it at all. However, I do feel that Will was the one out of line here. He has made a pattern of making off base comments about my companies the past few months, he jumped into a thread here with something that could have been handled separately or even privately, and he continued to carry on about it after several warnings from the person who runs this board. And believe me, Eric warned me to not go back at him also, several times, and I didn't. He wasn't playing favors, he was being fair across the board.

Will was the one who was wrong here, not myself. The only thing I was wrong on was dropping the ball with the timeliness of the donation to WMTR, which I have never denied.

Also, while speaking about Eric. We haven't bought advertising here in a long time. He isn't playing favors to someone buying ads. Those calling into question his integrity over that are way way off.

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 13871689)

John, when has will attacked you in the past ???

segpay / nats stuff when he said he had concerns that a lot of the people at segpay were ex ibill ? he didn't attack you either. find the posts please.

because you acted like a jack ass with the whole nats security breach, i think he said a couple things when you were acting like an idiot.

because you took 8 months to pay off a contest and he made a post about it, but didn't even name you?

because he asked for an update on how the nats investigation was going. sure sounds like he attacked you a lot for no reason john.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13869421)

I am not going to ban you, but you are wearing my patience very very thin. I asked you to chill out on the issue. We even discussed your issues with Damian over ICQ and I handled that for you, based on his breaking GFY rules.

You just can't seem figure out when you should SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Keep pushing me Will. I haven't banned you because I think you do provide good info. But you are pushing my patience.

Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 13871844)

I'm speechless.

This is top notch bro'ing at it's best.

This board is headed to being sig whores trolls and ad buyers rather fast.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13871725)

I'm not going to sit here and search for his postings, the search here is not exactly the most effective. You said in your post he said a couple things. He's said more than a couple.

I'm sorry you feel I'm a "jack ass" and an "idiot". You've made it clear you didn't like the handling of the security issue a number of times.

It didn't take 8 months to pay. It took a few months to finally pick a winner, and then the ball was dropped on getting the check out. There were never any ill intentions or "lies" about it as he accused me of. It doesn't matter if the post named us or not. It was the intent of the post. It came from his being pissed off as was explained above.

And again, as above, my reply to him when he asked about it was polite and direct. He just didn't like the answer so he went off.

You're not adding anything new here, you're just rehashing the same points which have been addressed already.

Originally Posted by Jace (Post 13872007)

the logic is there, i can't believe you all don't get it

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13872040)

Now he's gone to another webmaster board I posted a special offer / NATS v4 thread on and posted just now the following:



The same questions that were answered here in the same thread as they were posted here that started this whole mess. The same questions that he had answered.

You're right, he has no intentions of stirring trouble with me. It is my imagination.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13872040)

Now he's gone to another webmaster board I posted a special offer / NATS v4 thread on and posted just now the following:



The same questions that were answered here in the same thread as they were posted here that started this whole mess. The same questions that he had answered.

You're right, he has no intentions of stirring trouble with me. It is my imagination.

Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 13872069)

I missed where you actually answered it. I just saw you say that you will not deal with trolls, sig whores etc.

Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 13872084)

lol maybe you didn't read John but Eric told both of you to let it go yet YOU continue to post. Yes i did see that post of will76 and he asked you a simple question again in a nice polite way. But why post about the other board here.

I don't speak for Will but man on man you now have a bulldog on your ass now have fun lol

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13872086)

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...9&postcount=31
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...5&postcount=39

Originally Posted by VG.Content (Post 13872096)

All you said is it was fixed, there is nothing being said about the information that was compromised, what steps are being taken to assure it won't happen again, what steps are being taken to find who did. Why did it happen to begin with?

Saying it's fixed is great, but there is a lot more info that would be nice to put people a little bit more at ease.

Originally Posted by hostile_anal_invasion (Post 13871369)

Fuck you Will76 and anybody that supports your tainted fucking intent you ass crust!

Will76 is no fucking good.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13870906)

Will was not banned for asking questions, raising issues, or even for pushing the limits. Will was banned because he was asked and warned repeatedly to take the issue off the boards. He could not do so, therefore proving he could not control himself.

This is not a permenant ban, but he does need to understand that we do not say things we say to say them. If we ask you guys to do something we expect you to respect that we are asking nicely, if you push us we will put you on time out... Act like a child and be treated like a child.

Originally Posted by onlymovies (Post 13872182)

I don't even agree with all of wills points, but they are valid.

In fact, this NATs security breach shit hit the fucking newpapers which affects ALL of us. And you don't think this is relevant????

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13872865)

my take on will is that as his business declines, he wanted to remain relevant. He found a niche and validation by rousing the rabble at the expense of business owners and more importantly, advertisers.
He became a broken record that added nothing to the board.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13871373)

If that was the case why didnt John just say that? It was all over the newspapers they even interviewed Gonzo. Porn buyers read papers so it involves alot of people.To ask for update I dont think is too much considering one was never given. Then on the other thread he didnt even mention John and John came in great guns.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 13869421)

I am not going to ban you, but you are wearing my patience very very thin. I asked you to chill out on the issue. We even discussed your issues with Damian over ICQ and I handled that for you, based on his breaking GFY rules.

You just can't seem figure out when you should SHUT THE FUCK UP.

Keep pushing me Will. I haven't banned you because I think you do provide good info. But you are pushing my patience.

Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 13872865)

my take on will is that as his business declines, he wanted to remain relevant. He found a niche and validation by rousing the rabble at the expense of business owners and more importantly, advertisers.
He became a broken record that added nothing to the board.

Originally Posted by PBucksJohn (Post 13871725)

I'm not going to sit here and search for his postings, the search here is not exactly the most effective. You said in your post he said a couple things. He's said more than a couple.

I'm sorry you feel I'm a "jack ass" and an "idiot". You've made it clear you didn't like the handling of the security issue a number of times.

It didn't take 8 months to pay. It took a few months to finally pick a winner, and then the ball was dropped on getting the check out. There were never any ill intentions or "lies" about it as he accused me of. It doesn't matter if the post named us or not. It was the intent of the post. It came from his being pissed off as was explained above.

And again, as above, my reply to him when he asked about it was polite and direct. He just didn't like the answer so he went off.

You're not adding anything new here, you're just rehashing the same points which have been addressed already.