So ya think he does not deserve to have his ass kicked by people that know better?

People that want a reputable industry, or at least one that can differentiate between calling the government to step in and fuck us all up or stand up together and say that what this guy does is not appreciated by by his own peer's?

Sorry I do not agree one fucking bit.
Anyone can pay a bum to slash his owns wrists and put it on youtube.

But doing so any decent human being can figure out it's just not right.

and with only the picture to judge the situation from, it looks like they needed two on one to just about kick Max's ass :1orglaugh

Son of Sam I am... Son of Sam banned again!

In Jim South's World Modeling offices a couple days ago, a brand new girl practically begged Jim to call Max as she had fantasized about working with him. So Jim did. The only thing is she doesn't do anal... though maybe Max can talk her into it?

hahahahaha


very well said... I was going to say... thats pretty tame for max's stuff...


and for the guys "photographers" in here that really think girls are mislead and do not know.. well that sounds like something the hooker said and you fell for it....

give it a break.. they all know what there in for... if not they will soon find out with the pre shoot....

I know excatly what some of the girls were paid on these "pissmops" sites and it was not 500 and if it was... they agreed to it.. the name of the game is not to look out for the whore but to start your bid off low...

if I can get a girl to film for 150 bucks I will... why on earth would you start your bidding high....

yer SO gonna have to tell me the story behind this sometime.

Stolen Content....I'd say Max is being raped

thats the funniest shit i have heard all year.. Max a tough guy? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

PWNED . . . is that what the kids say these days?

Remember what the the senator said to Paul Cambria,"Police yourselves or we will do for you".
People will learn when its too late. Keep poking the giant.

WOW, I was there too. All I remember is a bit of chest beating. Are you sure there was a fight at all?

Did I not phrase "Just about" enough for you?:1orglaugh

Lrn2reed.]

K? thks!
Bi.

I don't really consider that pornography though. It is less about sexuality and more about violence. To me, that's not much different than the guys who get hard watching beheading videos. I understand there is an audience for it, I understand people like it, but I don't think that should be classified as the same pornography as something Lightspeed does.

I've seen some of his worst scenes. I can tell you that if that video was shown in a courtroom with a girl claiming she was raped, he would be in jail for a long time.

The issue isn't about whether he's a "nice guy to work with". Or whether "he is trusted". It's about his stuff getting lumped into normal pornography that the majority of people enjoy. It's absurd to classify a video of simulated child rape to the Jordan Capri Honeymoon video. People like Lightspeed don't want him fighting for the industry. The more the industry seperates themselves from his stuff, the better.

So should he be allowed to shoot that stuff? Sure, as long as the girls know what they are getting into and are OK with it. I just don't consider that stuff pornography. Just as I wouldn't consider rape, child abuse, or some guy in Iraq getting beheaded pornography.

Learn to write, not only me but others took what you said wrong.
Try this "Basically Max Hardcore was just about to get his ass kicked by one of us."
or maybe
"Basically Max Hardcore was going to get his ass kicked by one of us."
Thanks

A lot of people could argue that sites like Little Lupe promote the pedo lifestyle.. Although I know that Lupe is 18+ as well as all the other models you shot/shoot, I persdonally think girls that look that young only cater to pedo's..

With that said, I think there is a huge difference with a girl who is 18+ that looks very young compared to a girl/model/actress (whatever) that makes a consumer feel that she was physically or mentally abused during a shoot..

After watching 10 minutes of that video (all I could stomach), I felt as if that girl was being abused. but felt trapped into staying...

If I am wrong, then someone please have a statement from her or her agent posted here saying she was a willful participant.

Although, I strongly disagree with this type of content, if both parties agree to this type of treatment beforehand, to each their own and I have no issue.

If this type of scenario is the product of one performer taking advantage of another performer (especially a woman) then I have a huge problem with this and think others should as well...

the excitement in his voice is disturbing..

he's a sick fuck and will end up in jail

that girl was raped and might have been too dumb to realize it at the time but Im sure she realizes it now.

Ok, my final :2 cents: argument in this thread as it's most likely just beating a dead horse to go any further.

I am all for free speech, and I have seen plenty of Max Hardcores stuff around before. The issue for me here is NOT the pissing and simulation rape, but the fact that they are openly discussing the rape of EXTREMELY underage girls in the process of doing so. Say it's all fantasy and scripted and whatever until you're blue in the face, but fact is, people don't just talk about raping 10 year old girls while the fuck some little chick in the ass for a paycheck and walk away thinking nothing of it like it's their job. He clearly has a thing for rape sex and humiliating young girls. If it were legal to shoot with 10 year olds, I don't doubt that you'd see old Max slapping some of them around and "simulating" their rapes too. Say that he's fighting for freespeech all you want too, but all he's fighting for is himself, and his legal right to play out his fucked up fantasies without facing legal action. Content like this gives the industry a real dirty face for antiporn activists to put on all us if they choose to do so.

To everyone who uses the free speech argument in favor of Max, consider this. Say that tomorrow I hire an 18 year old model and dress her up in typical schoolgirl attire, pigtails, so on. Then I shoot a video where I throw her in a van off the street by a school, drive her to the desert where I shoot a simulation rape scene, slapping her around and doing whatever cruel ass shit I think will work to make it realistic. Then we simulate a rape/murder where I cut her head off and sodomize the corpse. I throw this video up on schoolgirlrapemurder.com and sell it. Are you going to stand up protect my right to create this shit and scream freespeech still? In this industry there has to be a point somewhere where a line is drawn. I don't know where it needs to be drawn, but I'd say it hits somewhere before repeatedly saying you're going to rape a 10 year olds ass during a simulation rape scene though.

If a model wants to drink piss and get slapped around for a paycheck, thats her choice, but I don't think there's any reasonable excuse to bring some of the topics in this particular video into an adult production. Another odd question I have is this. Say a model signs a release cor contract she's going to be in a rough simulation rape scene and halfway through realizes she's in way over her head. What's stopping these guys from actually continuing on with raping her. How is anyone going to be able to tell the difference when the film is aired? She's basically signed away her rights to some guy to fuck her up how ever hard, rough, and nasty he sees fit to do so, and what the hell can she say afterwards? Seems like a perfect legal cover for a rapist to do his work to me...

In summary, the only people I see defending this are people who shoot some fucked up disgusting shit, or who makes money off fucked up disgusting shit. Max isn't doing and great fight to defend the freed om speech protecting any of our rights. He's looking out for himself, and in a small way it's rubbing off for a few other people producing similiar stuff. If everyone involved is consenting to it, I say fuck it, go for it. But bottom line is that this video went way over the top with the pedo comments, and in making the pedo comments I think max outdid himself as standing up and making it public that he indeed has some pedo thoughts floating about up in his head. Way to go buddy.

I could give a fuck what anybody thinks about my opinion of it. I think it's overboard, and out of line, and as for free speech as I am, I think there are certain things (like these pedo comments in the video) which should be kept out of porn by legal restriction.

/end of my commenting in this thread

Agreed....

Um it's video taped sex that sexually excites the viewers and fulfills their sexual fantasies... How is that not pornography? I would say that is more porn than softcore nude modelling, or hell how about a lot of the fetish stuff that isn't even nude...

I'd call it "Hollywood" :1orglaugh

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it's one thing to tell a story, it's another to graphically depict it for fucked up deviants to jerk off to, lol.

edit: OH SHIT I POSTED AGAIN!, Ok, I'm actually out this time, lol...

schoolgirlrapemurder.com is availible :)

Basically, Aaron and Socks have it right...Thats Bryan Young in black and that was summer Internext in Florida I'm thinking 2003. That pick is from the last part of the fight that took place in three stages, 1st at the hotel bar, 2nd in the hotel lobby and 3rd by the pool where that pic is from. I stopped the fights in all three places as I did not want my guys Wiseman and Steve going to jail for doing in Max. Thats pretty much the story and not a punch was thrown:thumbsup

Thats not the way I remember it. Max was asking if his whitey tighties matched the color of Wiseman's new Lightspeed Jersey, so we were color comparing when Max lost his contact lens.

Wiseman and I were trying to see if it was still in his eye somewhere as this pic was snapped. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

http://www.lightspeedcash.com/poolfight.jpg

Does anyone know how to save the flv file

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that is funny on SOOOO many levels I can't even begin to write the book that it would take to explain it...

but... serious hint... check your temporary internet files

its the girls fault for being so desperate to participate in this vid

and how the fck is this site running the whole VID? maxhardcore losing money no?

I think that video just goes to far.

booooooo :(

Do you prefer 5, 10, 15, 30, or 60 second clips? :winkwink:

Holy shit, she has an anorexia

There's a firefox extension called DownloadHelper

*helpful hint*


Good luck man.

Dude, you look fucking young on that pic, like 25 or 30yo . I would have gave you 40 yo when I met you in 2k7.

Yeah, the conventions age you. I'm really only 22, but I look 41. :1orglaugh

Judging from that clip he is one fucked up person:2 cents:

For some people watching someone get their throat slit fulfills their sexual fantasy. Just because someone gets aroused by something, doesn't make it pornography.

The people who watch that stuff are not getting aroused from the sex, they are getting aroused from the violence. There have been a lot of studies on this done to rapists and those with fantasies of rape. I view pornography as sexual imagery causing the sexual arousal of someone. This is violent imagery causing the sexual arousal of someone.

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I must be new around here, but judging by the responses this thread sure is bringing out the GFY veterans :)

I was over yonder in when all that went down... it was 02... I recall you guys talking about some sort of co-branding of some max softcore tighty whiteys

btw did anything ever come about of those? ive been waiting what? 6 years now for them....


hey that was a fun show.. seeing this pic reminded me of the good times that year.. theFLY fell in love with a stripper... myself and a buddy got hookers and could not believe how cheap they were... they were only 150 full service from an ad we found... were from vegas... that don't happen much around here... good times...