Originally Posted by Christina Muller (Post 13999819)

Please Help? if its true I will hold a mega party in Montreal in May :)

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 13999965)

Yes, actually, adult professionals should be capable of skipping free drinks from someone they have no intention of doing business with. This is why the shows have gone downhill in general. Why should GGW or Lightspeed or any program sponsor a party if no one thinks they even have to say "thank you" for the drinks, much less promote the program who bought them.

Look at it this way. If you bought a girl a ton of drinks in a bar, even if she didn't sleep with you, you'd probably expect that she would at least not spend the next week running you down on the internet. Or do you think you should just thank her for drinking your wallet no matter what?

Originally Posted by Christina Muller (Post 13999773)

Well I was not at your party and so cant be called a hypocrite but if you guys could not see that train wreck comming please employ me :helpme................................

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13999850)

Since it was my event that was cancelled, let me add my comments.

First, let me be clear that I DO NOT officially speak for CCBill or The Phoenix Forum, but we have worked together on the Forum for years and I always try to help them whenever I can.

The cancellation of the Dodgeball War was MY DECISION ALONE. The Forum organizers and the Mission Palms hotel felt they could handle the expected extra media attention that Girl's Gone Wild sponsorship would bring. Security was tighter than ever, and GGW disclosed their promotion and marketing plans before the show started. However, local news crews dropped below anyone's expections of professionalism by attempting to sneak into the hotel, circling the hotel with news helicopters, and staking out the mountain behind the hotel with long range cameras. The tennis courts where the dodgeball war is always played is clearly visible from there.

Pictures from previous year's dodgeball events were located online, and the hotel was warned by the AZ liquor control board about violating their rules regarding alcohol and public nudity. I was notified immediately by concerned hotel managers and show organizers. So out of respect for the Cadwell Family, the Tempe Mission Palms Hotel, and the attendees of the forum, I decided we should send back a loud and clear message that we are not here to cause trouble or break any laws. Cancelling my event seemed the best way to communicate that.

We shared our concerns with the people from GGW, who were very cooperative and apologetic, but also felt they were simply "doing what they do". This was their first time at the Forum, and their only possible mistake was bringing their consumer marketing machine to what is traditionally a very low key business-to-business only event.

I believe I owe GGW an apology. I was asked to make an announcement to the show attendees about the cancellation of the dodgeball war before I had all the facts. I should not have implied that they caused the cancellation of my event.

Now you know all the facts, let's move on to the next drama.

Steve Lightspeed

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14000257)

You guys love the media attention any fucking company that was there would benefit from any photo takin with a company name on it, or website name or even a girl appearing in the mainstream media.

Now you all acting crazy when something comes about that is 100% pure promotion acting like you are all to good for the attention.
Its a fucken crack up. You got something handed over on a silver plater and spat on it.

I would be so bold to say that regardless of what many of you think, Joe Francis is on his way to legendary industry status. One day people will talk about him like Larry Flynt or Hefner.

He is our generation, and made a fortune with his business.

Not to mention what I would call a clean business as his footage has girls having fun and partying while many of you celebrate pissing on pornstars, degrading girls and so on and so forth.

Keep singing haters...

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14000257)

You guys love the media attention any fucking company that was there would benefit from any photo takin with a company name on it, or website name or even a girl appearing in the mainstream media.

Now you all acting crazy when something comes about that is 100% pure promotion acting like you are all to good for the attention.
Its a fucken crack up. You got something handed over on a silver plater and spat on it.

I would be so bold to say that regardless of what many of you think, Joe Francis is on his way to legendary industry status. One day people will talk about him like Larry Flynt or Hefner.

He is our generation, and made a fortune with his business.

Not to mention what I would call a clean business as his footage has girls having fun and partying while many of you celebrate pissing on pornstars, degrading girls and so on and so forth.

Keep singing haters...

Originally Posted by ProjectNaked (Post 14000263)

lots of true points but you missed the point of this thread :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 14000265)

alien, shut the fuck up... theres a reason you dont get the clout you feel you deserve....

this was negative... read the arizona papers and come back to this shit... steve di the right thing, he has to look after himself and other people there instead of potnetial positive media...


this incident was NOT positive...

Originally Posted by Kevsh (Post 13999031)

Ouch, Phoenix without dodgeball is like GFY without ... Jet, err, Juicy

Originally Posted by media (Post 13999743)

What a bunch of fucking hypocrites.. Alot of you got passes to attend our Closing party at Cherry Lounge, This was to attend an invite only area in the club as VIPs, you were anxious and happy to get in, and yet you now talk shit??? Sure Sure... Consume the booze, get hammered, dance your ass off, network, AND THEN post some bullshit. As the world turns, these are the days of our lives!!! Lightspeed Steve, GGW, and CCBill already talked and expressed concerns and views on this it was a hot topic for sure, but it's not something that was intentionally done by Joe..

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13999850)

Since it was my event that was cancelled, let me add my comments.

First, let me be clear that I DO NOT officially speak for CCBill or The Phoenix Forum, but we have worked together on the Forum for years and I always try to help them whenever I can.

The cancellation of the Dodgeball War was MY DECISION ALONE. The Forum organizers and the Mission Palms hotel felt they could handle the expected extra media attention that Girl's Gone Wild sponsorship would bring. Security was tighter than ever, and GGW disclosed their promotion and marketing plans before the show started. However, local news crews dropped below anyone's expections of professionalism by attempting to sneak into the hotel, circling the hotel with news helicopters, and staking out the mountain behind the hotel with long range cameras. The tennis courts where the dodgeball war is always played is clearly visible from there.

Pictures from previous year's dodgeball events were located online, and the hotel was warned by the AZ liquor control board about violating their rules regarding alcohol and public nudity. I was notified immediately by concerned hotel managers and show organizers. So out of respect for the Cadwell Family, the Tempe Mission Palms Hotel, and the attendees of the forum, I decided we should send back a loud and clear message that we are not here to cause trouble or break any laws. Cancelling my event seemed the best way to communicate that.

We shared our concerns with the people from GGW, who were very cooperative and apologetic, but also felt they were simply "doing what they do". This was their first time at the Forum, and their only possible mistake was bringing their consumer marketing machine to what is traditionally a very low key business-to-business only event.

I believe I owe GGW an apology. I was asked to make an announcement to the show attendees about the cancellation of the dodgeball war before I had all the facts. I should not have implied that they caused the cancellation of my event.

Now you know all the facts, let's move on to the next drama.

Steve Lightspeed

Originally Posted by media (Post 13999923)

I respect your opinion, however I was mainly talking about those that came up, asked for passes, and then talked crap.. We did not hand out VIP passes to just anyone.. They were given to those who asked for them that we wanted there, or people we felt should be there at the party that were added to the list prior to the show. And that's that... And as for Damage control? Go back up and read the response from Steve, we all already obviously worked it out..

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14000257)

You guys love the media attention any fucking company that was there would benefit from any photo takin with a company name on it, or website name or even a girl appearing in the mainstream media.

Now you all acting crazy when something comes about that is 100% pure promotion acting like you are all to good for the attention.
Its a fucken crack up. You got something handed over on a silver plater and spat on it.

I would be so bold to say that regardless of what many of you think, Joe Francis is on his way to legendary industry status. One day people will talk about him like Larry Flynt or Hefner.

He is our generation, and made a fortune with his business.

Not to mention what I would call a clean business as his footage has girls having fun and partying while many of you celebrate pissing on pornstars, degrading girls and so on and so forth.

Keep singing haters...

Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14000283)

No I did not miss the point.:1orglaugh

I didnt like GGW for a long time standing to me just a few years ago it was just another company doing late night annoying infomercials and every single time I saw one I would curse myself for not doing what he was doing himself.

He is easy to hate because of it, very few of you in the US were probably like me goin, "FUCK! Why don't I fucken do that shit!"

I figured out thats why I did not like GGW and well it was a shallow and superficial point of view. I guess I grew out of it and realised GGW is what it is and it certainly is a good business regardless of a few girls that managed to sneak on the footage, lie about iD's and so forth.

Which brings me to my point and what I think I see happening here in this thread.
Many of you hate GGW because of there success, so it will be easy for many of you to get on the hate wagon and talk shit.

Originally Posted by media (Post 13999743)

What a bunch of fucking hypocrites.. Alot of you got passes to attend our Closing party at Cherry Lounge, This was to attend an invite only area in the club as VIPs, you were anxious and happy to get in, and yet you now talk shit??? Sure Sure... Consume the booze, get hammered, dance your ass off, network, AND THEN post some bullshit. As the world turns, these are the days of our lives!!! Lightspeed Steve, GGW, and CCBill already talked and expressed concerns and views on this it was a hot topic for sure, but it's not something that was intentionally done by Joe..

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13999850)

Since it was my event that was cancelled, let me add my comments.

First, let me be clear that I DO NOT officially speak for CCBill or The Phoenix Forum, but we have worked together on the Forum for years and I always try to help them whenever I can.

The cancellation of the Dodgeball War was MY DECISION ALONE. The Forum organizers and the Mission Palms hotel felt they could handle the expected extra media attention that Girl's Gone Wild sponsorship would bring. Security was tighter than ever, and GGW disclosed their promotion and marketing plans before the show started. However, local news crews dropped below anyone's expections of professionalism by attempting to sneak into the hotel, circling the hotel with news helicopters, and staking out the mountain behind the hotel with long range cameras. The tennis courts where the dodgeball war is always played is clearly visible from there.

Pictures from previous year's dodgeball events were located online, and the hotel was warned by the AZ liquor control board about violating their rules regarding alcohol and public nudity. I was notified immediately by concerned hotel managers and show organizers. So out of respect for the Cadwell Family, the Tempe Mission Palms Hotel, and the attendees of the forum, I decided we should send back a loud and clear message that we are not here to cause trouble or break any laws. Cancelling my event seemed the best way to communicate that.

We shared our concerns with the people from GGW, who were very cooperative and apologetic, but also felt they were simply "doing what they do". This was their first time at the Forum, and their only possible mistake was bringing their consumer marketing machine to what is traditionally a very low key business-to-business only event.

I believe I owe GGW an apology. I was asked to make an announcement to the show attendees about the cancellation of the dodgeball war before I had all the facts. I should not have implied that they caused the cancellation of my event.

Now you know all the facts, let's move on to the next drama.

Steve Lightspeed

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14000005)

I think that has got to be the dumbest post "Juicy D. Links" has ever made.

/fail

Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 14001476)

Have you read any of his other posts? :1orglaugh

Originally Posted by media (Post 13999699)

Low Blow Juicy, if you felt this way why did you bother attending the party last night?

Originally Posted by SteveLightspeed (Post 13999850)

Since it was my event that was cancelled, let me add my comments.

First, let me be clear that I DO NOT officially speak for CCBill or The Phoenix Forum, but we have worked together on the Forum for years and I always try to help them whenever I can.

The cancellation of the Dodgeball War was MY DECISION ALONE. The Forum organizers and the Mission Palms hotel felt they could handle the expected extra media attention that Girl's Gone Wild sponsorship would bring.

...


I was asked to make an announcement to the show attendees about the cancellation of the dodgeball war before I had all the facts. I should not have implied that they caused the cancellation of my event.

Now you know all the facts, let's move on to the next drama.

Steve Lightspeed

Originally Posted by ideaworx (Post 14000461)

the tour bus was a bit flamboyant, not sure of the politics though

Originally Posted by AlmightyJim (Post 14020372)

http://www.almightycontent.net/2008_...s/HPIM4118.JPG

Bus was parked in the hotel parking lot the whole show adjacent to the main street of the Tempe Art Festival for all the public to see and enjoy. The only people that it did not draw undo attention to the show were... the blind. :winkwink:

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