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By the way one thing i forgot to mention is that we missed jordans best years . Those 3 years he went missing was during his prime and he could have easily had an 8 peat. No point arguing in that statment thx
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is this even a serious question? jordan
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What Is PER?
Player Efficiency Rating is a formula that uses a player?s stats to determine how productive and efficient he is in his time on the court. If he shoots the ball frequently, but does not convert on as many of his shots, his rating goes down. If he turns the ball over frequently, his rating goes down. If he is efficient and contributes an all-around performance, his rating goes up. Due to factors such as lower shooting percentages, it is almost impossible for a guard to have a very high career PER (such as above 25). Percentage of 50+ point games against teams with winning records Michael Jordan: 71% Kobe Bryant: 27% Record in games with 30+ shot attempts Michael Jordan: 72-57 (.558) Kobe Bryant: 32-40 (.444) Percentage of points scored on free throws Michael Jordan: 23% Kobe Bryant: 26% Percentage of points scored on two point field goals Michael Jordan: 72% Kobe Bryant: 59% Three point field goal attempts per game Michael Jordan: 1.66 Kobe Bryant: 3.63 Career PER Michael Jordan: 27.91 Kobe Bryant: 23.57 Highest PER season Michael Jordan: 31.71 Kobe Bryant: 27.97 Seasons with 30+ PER Michael Jordan: 4 Kobe Bryant: 0 Seasons with 28+ PER Michael Jordan: 7 Kobe Bryant: 0 Seasons with 25+ PER Michael Jordan: 12 Kobe Bryant: 3 Shooting in 50 point games Of the 143 50 point games since 1986 in the regular season, Michael Jordan has the #1, #5 and #8 games in terms of shooting percentage. He has three more in the top 25. Kobe's most efficient game is #12. Kobe Bryant has the three worst shooting 50 point games not only since 1986, but the three worst 50 point games (in terms of efficiency) in NBA history. These are among the few games in history in which a player scored 50 points, but didn't even make half of his shots from the field. In other words, these are achievements of volume shooting, not efficiency. But these aren't flukes, either. In terms of shooting, Kobe also has 7 of the 15 worst, and 10 of the 25 worst 50 point games since 1986. That's half of all of his 50 point efforts. Jordan has merely one game in the bottom 25. Jordan's #1, #5 and #8 games 24-29, 52 points, Nov. 16, 1988 21-27, 59 points, April 3, 1988 21-28, 53 points, March 7, 1996 Kobe's 3 worst 50 pt. games in history 17-38, 53 points, December 15, 2006 19-44, 53 points, March 30, 2007 17-41, 50 points, January 7, 2006 Yep, I believe I'll definitely be going with Jordan on this no brainer. Oh, and Kobe was NOTHING without Shaq. |
I'd also add that Lebron has more potential to be better than MJ. I still think Kobe has a few years of prime left, but that's it. He came in out of high school and his legs are just not going to hold up. That's not to say he won't be a great player still, but I think in a year or two will start the downward trend of his career.
As for Lebron, I think if he figures out how to either get a fadeaway or spot up jumper into his arsenal, he becomes the greatest offensive player ever. He has more raw talent, but is just not a better basketball player. He never spent his time in the offseason to improve his game and add an extra move. If you remember, Jordan completely changed his game following his first retirement. |
mass hysteria
kobe bryant fans generally suffer from mass hysteria and are usually incapable of defending themselves from the power of suggestion.
anyone who regards themselves as a lakers fan AND an objective person should visit lakersfiction[dot]blogspot[dot]com. i had to write it like that because i'm a f-ing newbie, and f-ing newbies aren't allowed to post links. |
A well informed post bojangles. The stats confirm what is obvious to most of us who don't live in Cali. People don't treat Jordan's record and ability as sacrosanct out of nostalgia or idealism.
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jordan, definitely.
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That just proves what homers you all are over the hometown kid, while MJ on the other hand transcends all boundaries. I really do not think anyone here that knows anything about basketball questions Kobes talent, but to compare him to Jordan is ludicrous. |
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Not who was better, best ever, or whatever else it's been turned it into. Jordan has made huge shots. Kobe has made huge shots. We have Jordan's entire career to examine, Kobe isn't done yet and I believe his best is yet to come. Best ever is a discussion you can't really have yet, it's not fair to Kobe. |
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i still stick to my answer: MJ there is no right or wrong answer, but the poll showed who would get the votes :thumbsup either way, good job on the thread Lorenzo. |
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Btw, if the stunt is real, it's pretty crazy. Playing chicken with your multi-million dollar career is... well... not advised. |
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So...to answer your question. Jordan. Even if he uses his LEFT HAND. |
Speaking of Kobe....
Do you guys think this is real? I'll tell you what i think after you see it.... |
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Another typical horrible shooting night for kobe once again . Can that choke artist ever shoot a good % wow not even vs the clippers he went 6-17 Honestly ive seen people get spit on for even saying jordan and kobe in the same sentence =)
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Damn, Even Jordan did that car stunt for You Tube.. Maybe it's a new thing... Check it out!
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU |
Looks like Dirk was clutch last night when he secured a playoff spot with a last minute shot. Guess someone was wrong about my statement.
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Funny that you guys are talking about Kobe's leaping ability, he only has a 38 inch vertical. There are plenty of guys that get higher.
Look at this: http://vertcoach.com/highest-vertical-leap.html |
The difference between kobe and jordan is, when kobe retires he will be a distant memory.
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even kobe would pick jordan
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To be fair to Kobe, he's actually not awful at defense.
I think he was all-defensive first team twice, and ditto for second team. But Jordan would wtfpwn him. Hell. I might actually prefer Joe Dumars with the ball at the end of the game over Kobe, because he'd have the humility to pass that shit if he were covered. |
Speaking about missing dunks
WOW can he make a shot a dunk such an over rated player. One thing he is great at tho I have to admit is turnovers https://youtube.com/watch?v=Gv3ltCD39OU
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Yep, kinda like Jordan passing to Paxon for winning 3's in playoffs and finals in major pressure situations. Faith in your players is something Kobe has always lacked. Jordan turned mere men into superstars. |
Kobe! :thumbsup
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lmao!!! Fucker! :thumbsup |
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Your vote doesn't count, you only have 6 posts. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh JK - :winkwink: |
Ok so since they both needed a supporting cast to survive, what about a game of 2 on 2?!?!?! If you had to pick Jordan or Kobe and one big man....who would you choose.
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Jordan and Olajuwon
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In two on two I think Olajuwon - Jordan would be more dangerous because Olajuwon can pull his man away from the basket.
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I'm going with Jordan and Kevin Garnette.
Who wants it? |
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