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tranza 04-15-2008 03:08 PM

I think you got quite a lot of logical reasons in this thread..

:2 cents:

CarlosTheGaucho 04-15-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14072682)
And yet here you are writing porn posts for money.

What's wrong with that? Is porn degrading to you?

CarlosTheGaucho 04-15-2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14072319)
There are no legitimate reasons for pot to be illegal. It is much less harmful then alcohol.

Yeah but it's not about something beeing harmless, it's always about pragmatism - and that's what most of our marijuana evangelists don't get, if harmful things would be illegal, you would have to ban the gas engines and fast foods..

Michaelious 04-15-2008 03:44 PM

Government; Control of Mind

BlackCrayon 04-16-2008 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14072904)
What's wrong with that? Is porn degrading to you?

No but writing blog posts for a few bucks doesn't exactly strike me as successful.

kmanrox 04-16-2008 04:36 AM

bottom line, if logic had a hand in this, pot and alcohol would either both be banned, or both be legal, not one or the other....

if anything, pot is less dangerous than alcohol...

Odin 04-16-2008 04:40 AM

Agreed with kmanrox. Pot is much less dangerous than alcohol.

CarlosTheGaucho 04-16-2008 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 14074587)
bottom line, if logic had a hand in this, pot and alcohol would either both be banned, or both be legal, not one or the other....

if anything, pot is less dangerous than alcohol...

It is definitely less dangerous, unfortunately, only to your body, not to your mind,

Here is a little experiment that comes to my mind if we are comparing these popular drugs, if Pavlov used dogs I would use a young marijuana evangelist, a young alcoholic and a young tobacco lover, they all are the same age and same physical and psychical condition:

Now let's let one of them:

1) smoke cigarettes every day (two packs a day)

And the other two get high from (meaning no moderation, serious abuse)

2) drinking booze daily for a year

3) smoking pot daily for a year

What you are most likely about to get is that:

1) tobacco smoker will damage his health, smoking will affect his overall physical endurance and make him more liable to different health problems, yet he will be totally capable of fulfilling everything in his social role

2) the alcohol abuser will probably damage his health, develops serious addiction, he will still be more or less capable of a social contact

3) the pot smoker will turn into a very healthy individual with serious addiction on THC, and mental skills of an adult baboon

So it's very tough to put these drugs in comparsion and there are many factors in game, the overall widespread, accessibility, the addictiveness, the tolerance of society / culture etc.

D 04-16-2008 11:15 AM

Because the U.S. Federal Government continues the trend of exerting more power than it's constitutionally entitled to.

That's 1 reason it's illegal.

wjxxx 04-16-2008 11:18 AM

Pot is illegal because mafia needs money and DEA needs reason to exist.

After Shock Media 04-16-2008 01:08 PM

Carlos you are one seriously misinformed individual who either has believed a great deal of propaganda or just associate and know true losers that no matter what vice they would of chose they would of ended up addicted and lame.

payd2purv 04-16-2008 01:11 PM

Going to plug a movie coming out April 20th

Super High Me .. looks jokes. Super Size Me for pot...

http://www.superhighmemovie.com/

CarlosTheGaucho 04-16-2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14076193)
Carlos you are one seriously misinformed individual who either has believed a great deal of propaganda or just associate and know true losers that no matter what vice they would of chose they would of ended up addicted and lame.

You know I thought about this?

I should actually hate drugs because the amount of anoying dumbasses I often meet in every bar I visit is incredible..no matter if they are high from this or that.. it all comes down to someone beeing an ignorant idiot, which apparently is the worst addiction we deal with nowadays..

And believe me - I don't believe massmedia, plus where I currently live there is no propaganda at all.

As far as it's illegal but decriminalized and tolerated (personal use) most of the teenagers are stoned and are far far away from the standards of behaviour I was raised in and I would ever be able to tolerate, I guess I am sudenlly feeling to be a LOT old fashioned.

Martin 04-16-2008 01:54 PM

Don't hate on what mother nature has given us.. It's a wonderful thing. Open your mind...:thumbsup
http://www.marijuanaseedbanks.com/im..._marijuana.jpg

After Shock Media 04-16-2008 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14076328)

As far as it's illegal but decriminalized and tolerated (personal use) most of the teenagers are stoned and are far far away from the standards of behaviour I was raised in and I would ever be able to tolerate, I guess I am sudenlly feeling to be a LOT old fashioned.

Teenagers should not be using drugs or alcohol regardless. Well ok I am being a hypocrite on this one and to me that is fucked up, I was raised with Spanish grandparents and such so wine was common through my youth and my doctor had me on marijuana before I had reached driving age.

Still teens should not be using such substances.

Heidi Rabbit 04-17-2008 01:54 PM

It's not because it gets you high! It's because it would topple both the petroleum and pulp & paper businesses.

CarlosTheGaucho 04-18-2008 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14074568)
No but writing blog posts for a few bucks doesn't exactly strike me as successful.

Well we all have our experience, what I am getting at is that no matter how healthy it is, it mentally damaged and continues to damage many individuals, no matter if legal or illegal, and again - I can only talk from my own experience, so talking about "non addictive" and "no side effects" just doesn't make any sense if I compare it with what I have seen.

If we would light up a spliff instead of getting a beer everytime we needed to plug off and hang out I am afraid we could soon as well end up like one of my childhood friends who is not leaving his room anymore for years to grow "ganja" and explore his inner secrets while there is nothing he can contribute to the outside world from his precious dimension

I guess this is the danger, regular use is way too problematic.

Agent 488 04-18-2008 08:36 PM

because religious and uptight people fear freethinking and pleasure.

& the workforce has to keep sedated with mind contracting drugs.

fsudirectory 04-19-2008 07:28 AM

There is a big difference between USE and ABUSE.

The same with any drug. If your drunk all day long your gonna pass out and be a shitty parent/worker/etc. And if your high all day long itll be the same thing.

Moderation solves everything... just dont be a fucking idiot and get your shit done when you need to.

Robbie 04-19-2008 08:30 AM

The reason it is illegal is because:
We are adults and live in a free country where the government serves the people and doesn't stick it's nose in where it doesn't belong. Right?
Wait a minute...I just gave the reason that anything and everything should be legal.
A few years ago I was listening to an interview with Al Lewis (the actor that played Grandpa Munster). He was in his 80's (he died in 2006) and he was arguing for legalization. His opponent in the debate used the argument that legalizing it would cause all sorts of problems for society.
Al Lewis called bullshit on that by pointing out that ALL drugs were legal when he was a kid. He recalled going to the drug store and buying HEROIN over the counter for his grandmother when he was 8 years old. And folks...those were what the conservative religious wackos have trained us all to believe were the "good old days"
By contrast...in our "free" country today...I sent my teenage daughter into the drug store to get some Nyquil and they refused to sell it to her because she was not 18! WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!
Their rationale was that some people drink the Nyquil to get drunk.
My response was: WHAT THE FUCK BUSINESS IS IT OF YOURS OR ANYBODY ELSE WHAT ANOTHER PERSON DECIDES TO DO IN THEIR LIVES.
They had no answer. The people running Walgreens are of this generation and don't remember what it was like to EVER live free. They grew up being forced to take piss tests, having the police search them and their vehicles, and being under the thumb of govt. visa a thousand little laws that regulate their lives.
Hell, you can't even smoke a cigarette in a bar!
And for the record, I don't smoke pot or cigarettes...or even take heroin.
But I don't understand why the govt. sees fit to make personal decisions for people.
Yeah, I know "because it will cost us all in terms of paying for their medical bills"
Well...how about this then...The govt. is the ones who started all of this "paying" for other people's medical bills. Sounded good at the time. But guess what? All it really did was give the govt. all of this power over our lives.
Free country? Bullshit.

HeadPimp 04-19-2008 08:54 AM

The original ban was pushed by big business that was afraid that hemp fiber and the products that could be made from hemp would compete with their new synthetic fibers. Additionally one of the newspaper kings was pushing for its ban because he owned gazillions of acres of timber that was under production for pulp, and hemp would have cut into that business. So, they demonized anything with THC in it, and got growing it made illegal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono (Post 14068412)
It is illegal in the US because it was used a method of deporting Mexican workers during the depression in the 1930's. Richard Nixon forced the current US drug laws to make it a major offense federally. The US forced many other countries into making it illegal if they wanted handouts. All politics, all the time.


Madame0120 04-19-2008 10:46 AM

The Gov't hasn't figured out how to tax it yet. :2 cents:

VicD 04-19-2008 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14068345)
I dont think you can.

I think you are right :)

BlackCrayon 04-19-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14086451)
Well we all have our experience, what I am getting at is that no matter how healthy it is, it mentally damaged and continues to damage many individuals, no matter if legal or illegal, and again - I can only talk from my own experience, so talking about "non addictive" and "no side effects" just doesn't make any sense if I compare it with what I have seen.

If we would light up a spliff instead of getting a beer everytime we needed to plug off and hang out I am afraid we could soon as well end up like one of my childhood friends who is not leaving his room anymore for years to grow "ganja" and explore his inner secrets while there is nothing he can contribute to the outside world from his precious dimension

I guess this is the danger, regular use is way too problematic.

Someone drinking a 12 pack every day isn't going to be a productive member of society either. Some people are just losers no matter what vice they get attached to. I've seen lots of people who smoke weed all the time become total losers, and others become successful. I know a lot of people who are alchoholics who are much worse off than the loser potheads. The vice makes no difference. It could be model glue. If someone is weak, they are weak.

germ 04-19-2008 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probono (Post 14068412)
It is illegal in the US because it was used a method of deporting Mexican workers during the depression in the 1930's. Richard Nixon forced the current US drug laws to make it a major offense federally. The US forced many other countries into making it illegal if they wanted handouts. All politics, all the time.



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notoldschool 04-19-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 14088097)
Someone drinking a 12 pack every day isn't going to be a productive member of society either. Some people are just losers no matter what vice they get attached to. I've seen lots of people who smoke weed all the time become total losers, and others become successful. I know a lot of people who are alchoholics who are much worse off than the loser potheads. The vice makes no difference. It could be model glue. If someone is weak, they are weak.

well said.

dav3 04-19-2008 05:35 PM

Stop the war on nature!

Helix 04-19-2008 06:03 PM

The other aspect of this argument is that hemp is an amazingly useful plant. Every part of the plant can and should be utilized. Oil from the seeds is a of high quality, meal made from grinding the seeds is a high nutritional quality, the fibers from the stalk is a high quality. Hemp is/was a utilitarian type of crop worth planting. There are a bunch of reasons to legalize this plant for its agro/industrial usefulness alone.

Fap 04-19-2008 06:04 PM

to bring the brotha down

SomeCreep 04-19-2008 10:42 PM

Pot is illegal because it is a psychotropic substance, which means unlike alcohol and cigarettes, marijuana can cause hallucinations.

Madame0120 04-20-2008 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 14089184)
Pot is illegal because it is a psychotropic substance, which means unlike alcohol and cigarettes, marijuana can cause hallucinations.

DANG! There must be some FINE bud where you come from!

xmas13 04-20-2008 04:29 AM

I'm all for murder legalization. Laws don't stop murderers. :-)

I want the right to kill. It should be a constitutional right. Why only police and soldiers can kill? :(

xmas13 04-20-2008 04:36 AM

We are all good people.
Let's legalize all drugs, but also theft, rape, murder...etc.
Let's also abolish school and taxes.
I'd like to live nude in the woods with my rifle and hunt for liberal human meat for a living. :-)

http://www.as.ysu.edu/~chem/faculty/Allen%20Hunter.JPG

xmas13 04-20-2008 04:46 AM

This thread made me hungry. I have got to cook some chicken. See ya.

notoldschool 04-20-2008 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 14089184)
Pot is illegal because it is a psychotropic substance, which means unlike alcohol and cigarettes, marijuana can cause hallucinations.

You must be thinking of that shit you and your mom buy at walgreens (prescription crack) because pot absolutly does not cause hallucinations.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xmas13 (Post 14089663)
I'm all for murder legalization. Laws don't stop murderers. :-)

I want the right to kill. It should be a constitutional right. Why only police and soldiers can kill? :(

You sir are SO stupid and uneducated that GFY is above your grade level.

J. Falcon 04-20-2008 10:08 AM

How about 1 logical reason why it should be legal?

miss_jody 04-20-2008 10:16 AM

its illegal??
WTF?

Jake the King 04-20-2008 10:21 AM

GOD made weed.

GOD doesn't make mistakes.


SMOKE A BOWL BOYS!!!!!!!

notoldschool 04-20-2008 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 14090233)
How about 1 logical reason why it should be legal?

1. Because we are supposed to live in a free country.
2. Its proven to have more medicinal benefits than most pharma products that Americans ingest at an increasingly alarming rate.
3. It could cause a economic surplus if taxed.
4. It causes less deaths than any over the counter drug.
5. Its far less dangerous than ciggerettes, cigars, snuff, & all types of Alchohol.
7. It relaxes even the most up tight individual.
8. prohibition CAUSES CRIME.
9. The war on drugs is a failure......

I could go on for days.

Your turn.

MTCCash Tim 04-20-2008 10:42 AM

well I doubt you have kids..yes I have smoked, but I do not want my kids doing it.. Thats good enough for me to keep it illegal.


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