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If they dont work for you, send your traffic to another sponsor.
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funny how everyone says that he should send more traffic
its a sad state of this industry when 15k uniques bring only one sale and pople are just saying "that's not enough traffic" |
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Sweet! You don't have to worry too much about your conversions since it's all SE traffic, good for you. Still, 1:1222 is not ok at all, especially that it's a well known fact that SE traffic is highly productive and a great seller, see bookmarks as well.... Where are the days when the ratio was 1 in under 500... |
NastyDollars conversions have dropped considerably, but so has that of many other similar programs.
Your traffic likely isn't the problem, it's you're sending it to the wrong place... The 'ol cookie cutter 10,000 pics / 100 videos websites aren't overly compelling to most websurfers who have access to millions of images and tens of thousands of videos free through tube sites... But one can't blame tube sites alone ... because even before tubes took off, many surfers were already getting their fill free from google image / video search. Ron |
Send them an invoice for your traffic loloololllllll
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If 15k uniques brings 1 sale the problem is not send more traffic. It's send better targeted traffic to better sites. I looked at a few sites and they need to rethink their tours. IMO Some are good and some are adverts for other sites and some are just not in the niche. Milf is not 30 year olds. It's 40 year olds. |
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{The 'ol cookie cutter 10,000 pics / 100 videos websites aren't overly compelling to most websurfers who have access to millions of images and tens of thousands of videos free through tube sites...}
I disagree with this, Mysites are old school and we convert less than 1:300 on all of them |
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Old school meaning small thumb previews or...? There are some sites out there, deeply implemented in the bookmark area, trusted by surfers and domain names easy to remember, some of them still have small thumbs and traffic as hell, new ones though have bigger and bigger thumbs that almost drain ones bandwidth but, hey, it's all about traffic. |
Hi Vanbest,
I'm doing ok with them and have for 2008 so far. Ok meaning average 1:1500 which is pretty good compared to many other programs. I have found that the traffic I send has to be VERY targetted to the site I'm sending to, to make sales. Right now I am promoting "sites" rather than programs meaning I promo one, or at MOST, two sites per big sponsor program (Nasty, BBros, Topbucks, TCG etc...). I have had ratios like yours for almost every program I've tried until I can find a winner. That is, a site that is not only targeted but also NEW and of good quality. There are so many sites out there that look the same as all others that the surfer has no reason to join. I'm sick of seeing a sponsor program announce a "totally new" site that will blow us all away! It's called "Her First Time Audition/Tryout/Sex/PornShoot etc" ... then you see an experienced model pretend to be shy. That worked in 2002 but those type sites are still around. Anyway I'm ranting but I thought I'd just give my 2cents. It's probably not NastyDollars. We just need fresh new sites to promote with new concepts and ideas. mopek1 |
Nastydollars here!
Hey Vanbest, hit me up on ICQ: 266736716 or email [email protected] and we can go over your account.
Thanks, Dan |
ND stats are fine over here.
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I'm just curious as to what kind of "answer" you would like nasty dollars to provide? What is your implication?
I work with lots of people who's traffic, for whatever reason, starts to suck. We try and tweak it.. maybe try some new / different sites, weed out some poor performers.. but ultimately.. if the ratios don't improve, then most times they will go and try someone else for a while til we have something new. It would be nice if everyone converted 1:1000 or 1:750 everyday from now til the end of time - but it's not going to happen. Your conversion ratio is unique to your traffic stream.. and if it stops performing with a site / sponsor program /etc - you just have to make the decision that's best for your business. |
Thing is, if you're only promoting one sponsor off one website, or in general, if you're only sending the traffic stream to one single place, there's nothing you can know for sure.
They could be converting 1:10, and still be skimming you 80%. They could be converting 1:100,000, and not skim you at all. The solution is to always send traffic to at the very least two similar sponsors off any site, and in a known proportion. Then you can compare their results, and then you can look at their funels, see if they leak traffic, if the pages just suck, etc. Often you'll find no leaks and nice professional funels and maybe even be 100% certain they're not shaving and yet, toilet results. It happens. |
Try sending the traffic to other sponsors see what happens. Couldn't be worse then what you are doing now.
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How can you guys make a living with ratios like that? Even 1 in 2k is pretty damn terrible...
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define "make a living" woj... ;)
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jk, heh |
Anybody with dropped conversions can contact me to fix the problem.
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learn some BUSINESS, its much more than just tgping. :2 cents: |
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If this were 2002, you'd be ripped a new asshole and this thread would go on for days after posting those stats. But good luck noob, you're gonna need it cause the gold rush is looong gone. :1orglaugh |
Hi,
I can understand your frustration because my stats are quite the same with all sponsors. From 800 per month to 70 at Bang bross and from 700 to 70 at Nasty in about 16 months it is pretty obvious of what trend will follow. Overall conversion is in sponsors yard and traffic belong to webmasters. Words like oversaturated, overexposed, overadvertised and so on are still on sponsors yard and it's their job to make a site to convert almost the same all the time. Having so low conversions on my own TGPs I start working with ppc programs and makes me quite the same. I sent all new sponsors to buy ppc add place. So far they didn't cause there are a lot like you who send traffic like hell. With ppc u can have around 1-2c per click so whatever makes u less then that u should look into this. |
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Have to agree that these days, just a couple hundred visitors a day doesn't cut it. Curious, did you try emailing ND before the trash on a public board? They are big enough to take a bad comment once in awhile, but still. ND has been sending those checks for a long time, it would take a lot to chase me away. |
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