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natkejs 04-21-2008 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGeneral (Post 14093038)
Program Managers,

I am not to sure about the perticulars to this system and how it is setup but I would caution you on unarbitrarily or automatically withholding payment or disabling accounts which are listed by others in any "blacklist" type system. It would possibly be more prudent to just request the listed affiliate to provide more identification information or flag for further account review. Sounds like if a program manager has any issue with an affiliate outside the realm of cheating they could cause serious harm to a legitimate person. There is a reason stores don't anymore post in public bad check writers but report them to national databases which are government by laws like the Fair Credit Reporting Act allowing consumers rights to dispute and privacy.

PG

:2 cents:

Yep, I agree.

Reports to a system like this should be considered a heads up rather then a ruling.
This is why we will also add functions such as verify / dispute etc.

However, if you get a heads up and you find the affiliate in your program with a 1:1 ratio on PPS with no referrer info then it's pretty obvious what's going on.

In the end, everyone has to think for themselves.
That's why we call it a "Neighbourhood Watch" and not a "Neighbourhood Police".

Thanks for your input :)

PornGeneral 04-21-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 14093154)
Yep, I agree.

Reports to a system like this should be considered a heads up rather then a ruling.
This is why we will also add functions such as verify / dispute etc.

However, if you get a heads up and you find the affiliate in your program with a 1:1 ratio on PPS with no referrer info then it's pretty obvious what's going on.

In the end, everyone has to think for themselves.
That's why we call it a "Neighbourhood Watch" and not a "Neighbourhood Police".

Thanks for your input :)

Great reply, glad to see you are considering all the possibilities and are open to "Request for Comments". ;)

kmanrox 04-21-2008 10:06 AM

bumps for a great idea...

nation-x 04-21-2008 10:16 AM

kind of funny coming from someone who just got busted with magically disappearing referrals because of an "htaccess accident"

natkejs 04-21-2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14093251)
kind of funny coming from someone who just got busted with magically disappearing referrals because of an "htaccess accident"

How do you consider me openly explaining what happen, taking the blame and offering credits as "being busted" ?

Should I have tried to deny it or blame it on something else I could see where you're coming though.

seeric 04-21-2008 10:27 AM

i'd use this. this past week alone i caught two assholes attempting to defraud us using trustcash. preloading accounts with stolen credit cards and then buying memberships through their affil ids in trust cash.

they both got shit canned.

MediumPimpin 04-21-2008 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14093251)
kind of funny coming from someone who just got busted with magically disappearing referrals because of an "htaccess accident"

You have to be kidding me, shit happens man, we offered full credits to anyone affected for the two weeks on one site.


Was just looking at the site in your Sig, http://www.artgps.com/program.php

Every link 404's, all of has issues with sites.

No one is perfect, it's how its handled in the end that matters.

natkejs 04-21-2008 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediumPimpin (Post 14093329)
Was just looking at the site in your Sig, http://www.artgps.com/program.php

Every link 404's, all of has issues with sites.

those are some great hosted galleries :1orglaugh

MediumPimpin 04-21-2008 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 14093355)
those are some great hosted galleries :1orglaugh

Shit happens like I said, I bet it's a "htaccess accident" :upsidedow

natkejs 04-21-2008 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 14093288)
i'd use this. this past week alone i caught two assholes attempting to defraud us using trustcash. preloading accounts with stolen credit cards and then buying memberships through their affil ids in trust cash.

they both got shit canned.

damn that's a new one... they sure are making an effort to stay one step ahead of us.

which again is why cooperating should help :)

natkejs 04-21-2008 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediumPimpin (Post 14093365)
Shit happens like I said, I bet it's a "htaccess accident" :upsidedow

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

50 new ideas, cheaters and .htaccess incidents

Socks 04-21-2008 10:59 AM

Fight the rape!

Meeper 04-21-2008 02:14 PM

E-mail sent! :thumbsup

seeric 04-21-2008 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 14093381)
damn that's a new one... they sure are making an effort to stay one step ahead of us.

which again is why cooperating should help :)

agreed.

:thumbsup

hit me up on icq and i'll give you his name so you can check your backend for the little fucker.

natkejs 04-21-2008 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 14094482)
agreed.

:thumbsup

hit me up on icq and i'll give you his name so you can check your backend for the little fucker.

I would but I don't have your ICQ # lol

I'm at 3652156

:)

BradM 04-21-2008 03:19 PM

Fastsize is interested.

natkejs 04-21-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14094654)
Fastsize is interested.

We promote FastSize on our solo model members pages .... not sure if the members are taking offense though, maybe you could help us formulate the ad a little better lol.

I'll hit you up lets see what we can do

natkejs 04-21-2008 05:19 PM

A friendly reminder,

I've been getting quite a few requests for invites that I've been unable to process.

Please, when you request an invite provide me information about the program you own or belong to and a valid email address attached to the domain of the program or any websites owned by the program.

I will not send invites to anyone that has not properly identified themselves together with a valid affiliate program URL and email.

Thanks :)

ThumbLord 04-22-2008 04:03 AM

bump for a very good idea

MediumPimpin 04-22-2008 11:14 AM

The system is working good we have caught people today fast enough to void the credit card sale so there will be no CB, kill the account and warn others programs in the system right away.


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