Nice posts Paul M. :1orglaugh

I forgot what happened.

shhhh, no hints

Spam? And you have some fuzzy logic. You really think they are going to promote someone that brings in less than the other guy, just because they are paying 70%?


Really? What do you think they will do?

Freeones for president, fucking love the traffic :)

Im sure we make up for it ;)

yet another serious move by another big player in our industry and we are all just too jealous to give them any credit! All these negative posts are completely unfounded.

Back in 1999 or maybe as late as 2002 I had many of my pages prominantly linked in FreeOnes --- i swear it was my only traffic partner next to google that gave me any sales. Freeones traffic was and im sure is even more valuable today.

I <3 FreeOnes

I don't understand why we're not charging $50 for a monthly membership. Price needs to start going up. $39.99, $49.99, something like this would work. I mean shit, gyms charge $100 a month easily and I'm sure many people just pay without ever using it.

Higher prices mean higher payouts. I still see some places charging $19.99 which is a mistake in my opinion.

I totally agree with that. We switched about 6 months ago to $38.80 per month and the ratios increased even after.

Its funny to see all the jealousy on freeones - the interest is high for a business related topic with no naked chicks in it. As stated before already: smart move to do so from freeones - i can not really understand why this is such a big story now however.

Well it can be done if payment proccessor fee is lesser then 15&#37;.Otherwise not.

I should do the same as free ones

my profits have 1/2 over the last year

it use to be us$ 40 cents to the nz $1 ($1 us = $2.20 nz)
now its us$ 80+ cents to the nz $1 ($1 us = $1.20 nz)

Exactly. You are not seeing my ironic statements. So tell Maurice it's 50%, spend the extra on great new content and see if he wants to move the traffic to a sponsor who performs worse.

I'm so relieved you get what I'm trying to get over.

This business has followed the logic of spend more and more sending more and more traffic for about 8 years. Well at least the I've been here. And what do we have to show for it?

A minority sites that do something special, different or very well. They usually convert and retain well. Yes I'm sure you can point me to the exceptions.

The majority of the sites have little to distinguish them from all the other sites in the same niche/style. Few convert or retain well. Yes they are full of exclusive content that is cloned on 90% of the other similar sites.

So what's the answer?

Send more traffic to sites that convert and retain worse and squeeze the sponsors for more money. Great logic guys.

What ever you say you will never convince me that you guys have got it right. Because clearly if you did this part of the porn industry would be far stronger.

I don't know why you even said this. The email said they need the extra 10% to stay profitable. At least get that right. More fuzzy logic from you.

So try it and see how it works. Or are you saying we all up our prices? :1orglaugh

Do you ever answer emails?

Dear freeones,

Sorry but since we're also based in Europe we cant raise our &#37;. However we provide true 50% recurring - and lot of love.

Here you go Paul, they made a whole thread for you: Click here to read

:2 cents:

That's simply because you suck at it I guess... It's not because you failed at something that others can't succeed.

Freeones are succesfull... hell I get 2.5 million page views a day and 99 % are type in surfer... we spent 5 years building the brand to get there, and we are still putting in way more effort promoting then expending the site.

Actually if you think they might go bankrupt you should be working at McDonalds...

After that they made a statement saying the guy who wrote the message clearly didn't express the compagny's views well and that english wasn't his first language.

Stop playing the retard dude... hell I don't even know if you're playing.

Why does anyone respond to Markham? He's an insane old man. He can't even have a conversation in his head without making no sense and arguing with himself.

I'm shocked this thread didn't turn into an argument about pottery after he was here.

You're old and insane Paul, stop typing and go do something useful with your time.

freeones does have a point, the exchange rate is completely fucked. might start emailing my sponsors too for a bump, doubt i will get anywhere though lol

Interesting, thanks for sharing.

Yeah we should all up the prices.

is it still 70%?

Ah I was waiting for this to be bumped, thnx!!

If anyone reading this got something interesting to push please do hit me up. Even if you can't offer the 70% (there is your answer) :thumbsup