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Grapesoda 04-26-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14115260)
I have pretty much learned how to do everything over the years from back in the days of filming the "Strap-On Sally" series in New Jersey with big crews on Beta-SP and filming amateur movies all over the East Coast and Canada on Hi-8mm to todays all digital high definition gonzo and reality shoots. Working in the office of a large porn company and distributor back in the 1990s in various capacities, including sales, marketing and writing press releases also taught me a lot about the business while I learned everything about production on the weekends when I was traveling and filming.

Nowadays as an independent porn director and custom content producer I pretty much produce every shoot myself, obviously with the help of a number of other people. I do some of my own casting, but also deal with a large number of people to refer models to me as well as some that I discover on my own. I almost always do my own camera work,and I often take stills on set. But I hire other still photographers for the bigger shoots. I know how to light a set, but of course i have crew help lugging my gear to locations and have help to set them up. I think I am an excellent editor and I often edit my own movies, but I also have help for that too when it gets busy. With practical experience I have become very knowledgeable about video editing and video encoding- one only has to read some of my posts about those subjects here on GFY, to figure that out, as I often have a comment on those subjects. I have learned basic html and design skills over the years, enough to competently direct my part time employees who help me with graphic design and web design. Basically, I am involved in all aspects start to finish of every project I am involved in even if that is only in supervisory role like telling the makeup artist what to do or my lighting guys how to light a set.

I stay away from encoding ...

Grapesoda 04-26-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 14115262)
thats nuts!

yes, it is isn't it? :)

MaxCandy 04-26-2008 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14115222)
It was Helmet Newton I dont think the old man had those problems.


Helmet Newton was a amazing Photographer RIP.

He was also famous for great parties!

tony286 04-26-2008 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 14115271)
Helmet Newton was a amazing Photographer RIP.

He was also famous for great parties!

I watched this documentary on him, pretty amazing and how he got his ideas. It was a great watch. :)

MaxCandy 04-26-2008 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14115290)
I watched this documentary on him, pretty amazing and how he got his ideas. It was a great watch. :)


Do remember what it is was called? i would like to see it, he is one of my Idols

Grapesoda 04-26-2008 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 14115271)
Helmet Newton was a amazing Photographer RIP.

He was also famous for great parties!

he also said beautiful models were stupid and boring.

tony286 04-26-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 14115308)
Do remember what it is was called? i would like to see it, he is one of my Idols

No I dont,Im sorry. it was on IFC.

MaxCandy 04-26-2008 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14115323)
No I dont,Im sorry. it was on IFC.


Its cool, i googled it there are a few i have to see.

mikesouth 04-26-2008 01:08 PM

I do everything myself, I do have help from some friends but basically I shoot it, edit it, correct it, recruit, build the sites, admin the sites, do the marketing and cash the fucking checks

LOL

Barefootsies 04-27-2008 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam Granger (Post 14115028)
To be honest, you are better off doing everything yourself. Unless you dont know what you are doing in that certain field. If you hire someone else, you have to be damn sure he knows his stuff well.

Sad but true. We've tried hiring people over the past couple of years. But it always ends in me back behind the fucking camera.

Many start out good, but then get lazy and quality drops off. But they still expect the get 100% pay.

:disgust

amacontent 04-27-2008 11:43 AM

I shoot and thats it. I have an editor, i have agencies send me girls to choose from per project, I have PAs set the sets that i need with tweeks by me sometimes. I dont make money sitting behind computer editing. I make monney shooting and marketing. I shoot 3 - 4 scenes five days a week, sometimes 6,
And I choose people to work for me so I can put my name on it just like Vivid , Ford Motors etc does. You think Stever Hirsh edits every video. Highly unlikely.

CrkMStanz 04-27-2008 03:09 PM

I do it all - new startup

its to be expected i suppose

don't mind at all either

marcop 04-27-2008 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14115319)
he also said beautiful models were stupid and boring.

He forgot to mention "insane".

Robbie 04-27-2008 03:45 PM

Everything myself from start to finish.

Grapesoda 04-27-2008 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 14118217)
I shoot and thats it. I have an editor, i have agencies send me girls to choose from per project, I have PAs set the sets that i need with tweeks by me sometimes. I dont make money sitting behind computer editing. I make monney shooting and marketing. I shoot 3 - 4 scenes five days a week, sometimes 6,
And I choose people to work for me so I can put my name on it just like Vivid , Ford Motors etc does. You think Stever Hirsh edits every video. Highly unlikely.

" i have agencies send me girls to choose from per project"

I gotta hollor bullshit here joe... everybody does that, are you fucking high. thanks I haven't laughed this hard in some time :)

VikingMan 04-27-2008 04:41 PM

I do everything myself. I have one female assistant just to handle paperwork, light meter, etc.

Grapesoda 04-27-2008 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ******* (Post 14118959)
I do everything myself. I have one female assistant just to handle paperwork, light meter, etc.

for the first time I'm now working with a crew. I really like it. I make less money however, I have a better more relaxed time. well back to 'plan 9 from outer space' -bmb

Penny24Seven 04-27-2008 04:59 PM

I film the videos, find the girls, edit the videos, encode the videos, make the site design, get my own traffic, I have even been in some fucking videos, I am not good at any one thing but I know how to do enough of each to get by and without problems.

Grapesoda 04-27-2008 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 14118981)
I film the videos, find the girls, edit the videos, encode the videos, make the site design, get my own traffic, I have even been in some fucking videos, I am not good at any one thing but I know how to do enough of each to get by and without problems.

very cool, I never could figure out how to get traffic :(

Penny24Seven 04-27-2008 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14118990)
very cool, I never could figure out how to get traffic :(

yeah that seems to be the hardest part, Takes a lot of time and when doing everything else you don't have much time, my main site is 1:170 for the year, to bad 95% of the traffic is mine though. I keep saying once I get caught up I will work on the traffic but now I am working on site number 3 and 4 and they will both be done soon so maybe after that. chayden18.com is my newest one. I have a few people that are waiting to send her traffic. She is fucking amazing so for once it might pay off

Grapesoda 04-27-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 14119001)
yeah that seems to be the hardest part, Takes a lot of time and when doing everything else you don't have much time, my main site is 1:170 for the year, to bad 95% of the traffic is mine though. I keep saying once I get caught up I will work on the traffic but now I am working on site number 3 and 4 and they will both be done soon so maybe after that. chayden18.com is my newest one. I have a few people that are waiting to send her traffic. She is fucking amazing so for once it might pay off

good for you, consistent hard work usually pays off

Penny24Seven 04-27-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14119010)
good for you, consistent hard work usually pays off

and it makes your hair fall out haha ,

amacontent 04-27-2008 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14118953)
" i have agencies send me girls to choose from per project"

I gotta hollor bullshit here joe... everybody does that, are you fucking high. thanks I haven't laughed this hard in some time :)

Guess i am fucking high. I learned to delagate authority to trustworthy people and have grown past a 2 bedroom apartment.

amacontent 04-27-2008 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls (Post 14118981)
I film the videos, find the girls, edit the videos, encode the videos, make the site design, get my own traffic, I have even been in some fucking videos, I am not good at any one thing but I know how to do enough of each to get by and without problems.


Excellent staement IMO. My point is to grow as a buisness, do the 1 thing you do best, then get assistance with the other points that youre not as good at. You will see the money you spend on assiance freews up more time to concentrate on what youre good at.
Then you can start taking tome off, trips vacations or just plain relax while your buisness continues to operate.

NoWhErE 04-27-2008 06:22 PM

I wouldn't call myself a full fledged content producer since I'm not interested in the job,

HOWEVER, I can do 90% of the job at expert level.

The only things I would rather not touch is recruiting and wrangling the girls. They drive me nuts.


What I prefer doing is delegating and supervising all the tasks to a team of people who each specialize in the field. I rather have a view of the larger picture of whats going on while others toil doing the grunt work. This way, I can supervize 3-4-5 productions at once without skimping on quality.

If one of my units isn't correctly performing or if I'm asking too much from him, I can easily take the helm and guide them into accomplishing the tasks I require of them.


I've been directing and producing mainstream television and films since I was 18. Been in adult for 2.5 years now. I am currently 25 years old.

Grapesoda 04-27-2008 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 14119104)
Guess i am fucking high. I learned to delagate authority to trustworthy people and have grown past a 2 bedroom apartment.

someone pee in your cheerios hot stuff? :)

JayAllan 04-27-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14115160)
I do it all myself. I was watching a documentary on this big art/fashion photographer. He told him them what he wanted, when he got there the set was built,girl ready and the lights all set.All he had to do was show up,was handed a camera shoot the set and then handed the camera back. I thought thats the way to go. lol

Isn't that how we all do it? Of course I have an assistant who turns the f-stop for me as well.

MaxCandy 04-28-2008 04:46 AM

In this era of HD monitors and Digital pictures, i confess i rarely use a light meters anymore.

nickey1952 04-28-2008 07:09 AM

If your a shooter and that is your forte stay with it, hire a webmaster, hire an editor, takee pictures and make money. I have been shooting for 25 years and still do my own stills and video, I shoot for Bangbros, twisty's, porn.com, brazzers.com. The stills are what really sells the site, check out my newest site. www.ohmaimai.com and also sweetyurizan.com. they are all shot by me, If a client hires me to shoot they get the job done by me, not someone else,
Nickey
[email protected]
"No one shoots like a New York shooter"

SilentKnight 04-28-2008 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14115021)
how many of you guys do everything? me and the guys that I know around the world that have been shooting content for 7+ years do everything, or at least know how to do everything.

we know how to light, shoot, edit stills, color correct, shoot video, edit video, recruit models etc. I don't have to shoot my own video any more, or edit it, however I set the look. still do all my own color correcting and a bit of recruiting. hell, we even had to build all our own websites and figure all that crap out.

seems like the new guys hire others to handle that stuff. how much of the content biz do you handle? do shoot stills and video, and edit it all yourself? do you know how? or do you hire all that out and use just your name?

-bmb

Judging by your work - I strongly recommend you outsource.

You might actually achieve some quality having others do it all for you.

Grapesoda 04-28-2008 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14120626)
Judging by your work - I strongly recommend you outsource.

You might actually achieve some quality having others do it all for you.

someone having a bad day? I shoot HQ content had have for years and years... touching dicks all day affecting your vision :)

Grapesoda 04-28-2008 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nickey1952 (Post 14120546)
If your a shooter and that is your forte stay with it, hire a webmaster, hire an editor, takee pictures and make money. I have been shooting for 25 years and still do my own stills and video, I shoot for Bangbros, twisty's, porn.com, brazzers.com. The stills are what really sells the site, check out my newest site. www.ohmaimai.com and also sweetyurizan.com. they are all shot by me, If a client hires me to shoot they get the job done by me, not someone else,
Nickey
[email protected]
"No one shoots like a New York shooter"

a question: how are you generating the 'screen caps' they look nothing like the video... are you shooting full rez stills and cropping 16x9? -bmb

Grapesoda 04-28-2008 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MaxCandy (Post 14120204)
In this era of HD monitors and Digital pictures, i confess i rarely use a light meters anymore.

I know of a few other guys that do that max, and I gotta hand it to yas, I can't live without a meter :)

Mutt 04-28-2008 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14120626)
Judging by your work - I strongly recommend you outsource.

You might actually achieve some quality having others do it all for you.


seriously dude - Brian is twice the photographer you are.

amacontent 04-28-2008 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 14120836)
seriously dude - Brian is twice the photographer you are.


I seriously agree. Brian is a top notch photographer

marcop 04-28-2008 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 14121354)
I seriously agree. Brian is a top notch photographer

Yes, he's one of the top guys here in LA.

SilentKnight 04-28-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 14120805)
someone having a bad day? I shoot HQ content had have for years and years... touching dicks all day affecting your vision :)

In fact, I'm having a very good day...thanks for asking.

Oddly enough, despite the fact we shoot both female and male - its the dick content that seems to grab your attention most. Can't say for sure what that implies, however.

Perhaps its more a case of replying in threads started by dicks that affected the tone (shrug).

SilentKnight 04-28-2008 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 14120836)
seriously dude - Brian is twice the photographer you are.

As the old saying goes - opinions are like assholes.

Everyone's got one.

Grapesoda 04-28-2008 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14121477)
In fact, I'm having a very good day...thanks for asking.

Oddly enough, despite the fact we shoot both female and male - its the dick content that seems to grab your attention most. Can't say for sure what that implies, however.

Perhaps its more a case of replying in threads started by dicks that affected the tone (shrug).

to be real honest I haven't seen you post any female content in some time and have stopped looking at your post due to the dick 'factor' and before you start a bunch of crybaby BS about 'homophobia' I have just as much right not to want to see 'dick pics' as you have to slip on a pair of rubber gloves and start playing with them :)

Grapesoda 04-28-2008 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 14121354)
I seriously agree. Brian is a top notch photographer

thanks Joe, I love to bust your chops once and while, but I really dig ya :) and I'm available to shoot for you on a day rate if ya want


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