This is true... when I hosted with Ev1 one of the abuse guys told me they ignore complaints until they receive a certain amount.

Thank you for taking my word.

I guess you don't see my outrage about the other areas or anyone else's for one of two reasons. Either first because it doesn't affect us personally or second because we don't feel that it is something we can effect change on. None of us can be everything to everyone, I certainly don't feel that I can - I'm busy, just like everyone else.

I own a hosting company whose clientele are predominately adult as is the case for another dozen or so companies around here. The question is not why is there no outrage for the other 'wrongs' online. The question is in this area that we all live and work where we can effect some change why would we not make an effort to or take a personal interest in discussing and spreading awareness?

Brad

Great, I see your point. Now, I'm sure you realize there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop it save lobbying congress to change the law. Rather than waste time making them bounce from host to host what can everyone do to evolve and survive.

A lot of sites have been taken down or forced to go legit. To make things profitable they need to cheapest BW possible, which they will get in the USA.

Host in USA have to follow USA laws.

The issue is people are lazy and it's easier to say "evolve" then take a stand.

How exactly am I to "evolve" if i'm spending 10's of thousands of dollars on content a month, and someone is giving all away for free and pushing cams and dating?

Clearly... you're supposed to quit your day job and get yourself into a gay cam room!

:1orglaugh

Brad

Here's a bump for http://www.removeyourcontent.com

This is a good service that copyright holders can use to locate and send out DMCAs.

Cheers,

Brad

Another site, spankwire.com hosted on LeaseWeb

leaseweb was not the news last week here in Holland for CP and said the first have to make sure it's CP before they remove it (pics shown on TV by "anti CP workgroups" were "not amusing" but by law not considered "intercourse" ....so...).
I really hate CP and whatever comes too close.

Why do people keep saying this?

It's not how people are using them that is the issue. There is no good business model that could be used by a tube site that can benefit the sponsor. Concatenating galleries from every sponsor and putting them on one page is a good idea? Putting gigs of 1-2 minute clips on one site that can be immediately watched, this is a good idea? It's a good idea if you are interested in getting page views and charging for advertising. Youtube doesn't sell memberships, it sells advertising. The porn version of youtube is the exact same model.

If you have a 'legal' tube site and on video viewing page there is a small link back to the sponsor with the page completely bukkakaed by dvd, fling, and aff ads, is the owner of the tube site really trying to sell memberships to the sponsor content (which is generating traffic to the tubesite)?

I am slightly offended.

:(:(

Who will you guys host when all the paysites go out of biz?

Most importantly the length of the video have to be strictly limited because otherwise the surfer just goes for the longest chunk, that's why affiliate deal on a sites who would even have license for the full length video makes even way less sense...

you don't have additional revenue streams, like product placement , commercials, merchandising etc to gain from. Shouldn't you see that as an oppertunity. Shouldn't you try and create those revenue streams for the industry.

i don't understand why so many people on this board don't understand that the concept that the same word for problem is oppertunity.

YouPorn is the biggest = Alexa Rank 37
then.. RedTube = Alexa rank 51

megarotic 151 and climbing fast :disgust

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

There will always be pay sites in addition to different types of free sites. We host many tube sites now and see new ones going up every day. The difference is they're ones without stolen content. We are quite resilient and look forward to growing and changing as the industry does more of the same.

Cheers,

Brad

I wish tube sites never existed. I just see some bad shit happening very soon.

I see nothing wrong with a host nuking accounts that are running tube sites if they are loaded with unauthorized content. People can spin it any way they want and hide behind loopholes, but unauthorized use of content is a form of theft, whether there's an actual law protecting it or not. And anyone with an ounce of sense in their head knows it.

Kudos to Brad for taking a stand. :thumbsup

Redtube.com :(

100........

Bump for more info

Evolve or die. tube sites are here to stay for a long long time.

well stated

I am so happy that none of me hosts tell me what to do

change da mojo host to napoleancomplexhosting.com

where will it end what will be bannded from you company next? IP address! FREE DA IP ADDRESS!

what tube sites do you host?

LOL, for someone who's got a get rich claim in their avatar, you certainly think more of yourself than is probably accurate. Your use of the word pandering is completely silly as well.

This fucker needs a bump

Not hundreds yet as far as I know but dozens so far for sure however nothing in the Alexa top 100, yet. I would be happy to post URLs but feel as if we'd need client permission to do so. Not too surprising, I get the feeling from many of our clients that their sites are works in progress and under development. It seems that everyone is in a race to build a better mousetrap.

Cheers,

Brad

good thread Brad

TNAFLIX.COM http://www.whoishostingthis.com/tnaflix.com

I agree. Let's begin by killing you.

Bump for nice thread

Pornhub and Redtube are the biggest I think

Bump from me!

I know this is an oldish msg but I just wanted to add in my 2 cents... it IS actually possible to fake a traceroute path. The IPs up to the point that it enters the "evil" network will be accurate, but after that they can return any IP/hostname they wish. I know some spammers have used this trick to make it appear they're hosted in a different country and generally make it difficult for people to track them down.

Great job Brad. :)

Everytime someone posts words to the effect "Evolve or die" in a thread such as this, they are quite simply introducing themselves as flaming assholes to the rest of us :321GFY

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Product placement in porn video ? Thanks for the laugh

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