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TheDoc 05-09-2008 05:43 PM

50 drunks posting on GFY!

dav3 05-09-2008 06:03 PM

drink more, skid more

rayadp05 05-09-2008 08:20 PM

I believe that he is going to serve his time in the Pinellas County, FL jail but wont he be seperated from the general population being that he is a celebrity? I mean, I am sure that someone like Britney Spears (or another celebrity on such a high level as that) would not be thrown in with the general population but what about Nicks celebrity status? I mean, he is considered a celebrity but he is not THAT big of a celebrity. Anyone have any idea how that works?

'So Fucking Money 05-09-2008 09:05 PM

kid doesnt need to drive anyhow. He can just take a damn towncar and hang out with his dads new gf. Lifes rough.

bdld 05-09-2008 09:35 PM

the driving ban should imposed should have been much much longer.

Defiance Inc 05-09-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 14170862)
True, he will most likely serve his 8 months in Pinellas County Jail and he will meet real killers in route to prison. Not as easy as some people think. Maybe he can become a cook.

County is the worst, next to the holding tank. This is cause county is the "limbo" of the system. Most people are awaiting trial and are antsy. Also, many gangbangers etc. try to make a rep. here before going to prison for the long haul. So more crap happens. Jail isn't as bad, usually people sentenced under a year and low level crimes like child support, dui etc.
Prison (state) is better than county. Everyone chills out cause they know their time and just want to do it and get out. You'll get your occasional race riots, retribution attacks, and stuff. But most are politics like anything else could have most likely been avoided. Federal prison is the easiest. Usually white collar crimes.

P.S. Holding tank fucking sucks cause thats where all the drunks are pissing on themselves and crack heads are starting shit.. :2 cents:

papill0n 05-09-2008 11:36 PM

tough lesson but justified in his case

Odin 05-09-2008 11:44 PM

You could see something like this coming with him. Not that I really followed the show but he came off as an increasingly arrogant little twerp. Still, wouldn't wish it on anyone. I am sure we all did some stupid shit when we are young, and got away with it ok. I guess he just started doing it to often, as I am sure this wouldn't of been the first time.

flashfire 05-10-2008 01:39 AM

this kid puts the douche in douchebag

kane 05-10-2008 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14171886)
In Arizona you get a one year mandatory inner lock on your car, lots of fines, and 10 days in jail.. first time.

Poeple make mistakes, every day, in every way.. Why is this different? Because it's a choice? Well, most mistakes are.

The reality is, people ARE forcing people to do this - without every knowing it. That is "exactly" how advertising works. If they want to make it really fair, then ZERO advertising for alcohol on tv, radio, billboards, anything.. It has been proven that advertisements influence us in unknown - upper level - psychological reason.

It's also been proven the more you push people, and say no this is bad, the more they will do it. It's far better to create a system that works with the people than against them.

Well, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree. I don't know you or much about you, but you said you were an MP and I respect anyone that has served this country (plus you have a pretty cool blog too:) ) but I don't think anyone is being forced into anything. I understand advertising is meant to make you want to buy something because you think it will give you the life that the ad portrays, but advertising doesn't FORCE you to do anything. To me saying that seeing ads on TV, papers, billboards or wherever forces you to go out and drink and drive is absurd. I will agree that it is easy to to. You go to a bar or a club and it is very easy to be over-served. Plus if you are bar hopping they have no idea how much you have drank. You could have done 5 shots 10 minutes ago and then walk into their bar and they serve you 3 more and you are none the wiser. So people go out and getting served too much is very easy and then they decide to drive home. To me it is no different than if I decide to shoplift something or if I decide to drive 100 mph or if I decide write a bad check. I may get away with it, I may not, but doing it was my decision and my decision alone and if I get caught I should be punished accordingly and in the case of DUI (and I guess the case where I am doing 100mph) I am actively putting other people in danger when I do this.

Also about the punishment, I was just going off of what typically happens in my state. Here in Oregon you get a DUI and often you don't even lose you license. You go to a class, pay a fine and get to keep it, or you lose it for 90 days. You have to get caught 3-4 times before anything real harsh starts to happen.

I do agree that in a lot of cases the more you push people away from something the more they will want to do it and booze is a prime example of that. We have such a taboo about booze. Most people I know when they turned 21 went out and got hammered. Sure most people have had booze before that age, but usually not much and not that often. It is such a taboo that they celebrate getting to do it by over doing it. I think if parents were more open with their kids and let them have some wine every now and then or shared a beer with them on their terms it would help ease off that taboo and make it so that it wasn't such a big deal. That is how it was in my house and I never even had a drink on my 21st. I do drink occasionally, but even when I was in my early 20's it didn't have the allure to me a lot of other people felt because it wasn't something I was denied and I didn't feel like I had to make up for lost time with. The same can be said for sex. If you look at the parts of the country where they only teach abstinence in the schools you will see that those areas have the highest rate of teen pregnancy and STD as well. The more you tell the kids not to screw, the more they screw, only they don't use protection.

Talking about advertising and its effect on society is a fascinating topic I could discuss for hours. All that said, I still think, in the end, people make choices for themselves. We have free will and if we choose the wrong thing and that wrong thing could harm other people there should be some pretty strict consequences.

Rique 05-10-2008 01:58 AM

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what is county lockup? like what paris hilton did?
What Paris did was more like "Hotel Check-in".

stev0 05-10-2008 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 14170639)
He should have gotten more. You drink, the race down the street because you think you are a Nascar driver, wreck and cause your friend to be disabled for life you should get more than 8 months. Just my opinion.

Would it help his buddy out? He already feels like shit, what good does putting him in jail do... :2 cents:

kane 05-10-2008 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 14172926)
Would it help his buddy out? He already feels like shit, what good does putting him in jail do... :2 cents:

I think it sends a message. Sure 8 months and 2 years probation is nothing to laugh at, but he is young and on TV and kids look up to him and his family. They may not think what he got is that bad. If he got more, say the max which was 3 years it would have really sent the message that this type of thing is not tolerated.

notoldschool 05-10-2008 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by stev0 (Post 14172926)
Would it help his buddy out? He already feels like shit, what good does putting him in jail do... :2 cents:

Feeling like shit is not a punishment. Im sure if he got off without jail time he would feel alot better so it serves him right. he has been speeding through very tight traffic conditions at crazy rates of speed many times before this happened without learning his lesson. His buddy will never get a second chance and he should not as well.

Pnk XXX 05-10-2008 07:38 AM

that sucks

prison isnt a joke

Lykos 05-10-2008 07:49 AM

Shit happens,fuck it,lol

TheDoc 05-10-2008 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 14172912)
I respect anyone that has served this country (plus you have a pretty cool blog too:) ) but I don't think anyone is being forced into anything. I understand advertising is meant to make you want to buy something because you think it will give you the life that the ad portrays, but advertising doesn't FORCE you to do anything.

Talking about advertising and its effect on society is a fascinating topic I could discuss for hours. All that said, I still think, in the end, people make choices for themselves. We have free will and if we choose the wrong thing and that wrong thing could harm other people there should be some pretty strict consequences.

Thanks and Thanks :)

I'm not a materialistic person, and you don't sound like you are either. And that would be why ads don't effect us.

The majority of the population love material things, will cry over them, would die over them, would kill over them. Every day they 'want' or 'need' something. Advertisements effect these people, in every way, good and bad.

I have read a lot of studies, where the subject doesn't know what's going on, but he is getting blasted with some type of ad, or drives by types of ads, themes, or whatever it is.

Then the person is told to act how they feel, or draw, or they may go through tests..

And ... every one of them that I have read proves that advertising effects you without you even knowing about it. This isn't for everyone or exactly the same for everyone.

When I read about these studies, the people that get effected the most, always 'seem' to be the materialistic people. To me, Nick is at the top of the chart for materialism so he would be influenced far more than most of us.

The ads don't have to make you want to drink - but they can make you feel like superman without you even knowing it. And that is just as dangerous.

PerrieBelle 05-10-2008 11:25 AM

He deserves it!

kristin 05-10-2008 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14170643)
Not like his family is not rich enough to hire a driver. I'm not sure why more rich people don't. 8 months that's county lock up not prison.

I've always had the same thought. Why does Paris bother driving? I fucking hate driving, if I had that much cash someone would be carting my ass all over town.

kane 05-10-2008 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14173413)
Thanks and Thanks :)

I'm not a materialistic person, and you don't sound like you are either. And that would be why ads don't effect us.

The majority of the population love material things, will cry over them, would die over them, would kill over them. Every day they 'want' or 'need' something. Advertisements effect these people, in every way, good and bad.

I have read a lot of studies, where the subject doesn't know what's going on, but he is getting blasted with some type of ad, or drives by types of ads, themes, or whatever it is.

Then the person is told to act how they feel, or draw, or they may go through tests..

And ... every one of them that I have read proves that advertising effects you without you even knowing about it. This isn't for everyone or exactly the same for everyone.

When I read about these studies, the people that get effected the most, always 'seem' to be the materialistic people. To me, Nick is at the top of the chart for materialism so he would be influenced far more than most of us.

The ads don't have to make you want to drink - but they can make you feel like superman without you even knowing it. And that is just as dangerous.

Very true about materialism. I know people that spend every dime they make and they spend on it on junk. It they start making an extra $100 a month, they will go out and spend it. I have always thought that people who are very materialistic have some kind of self esteem issues and they need to buy these things in order to feel good about themselves or in order to justify their success or even existence. It is an interesting subject for sure.


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