I'm with you. I never understood why one would complain about prices... simply go to another vendor. I know people that charge stupid prices simply because they don't really want work... if somebody wants some bad enough, they will pay, and then they will be happy to take the work at a very high price.

Everybody is different.

yah i got a ton of them.

i could never get anyone from there to answer me on getting a banner package so i gave up.

They are overpriced. They always have been expensive but i never had a problem with that. Years ago they were the best or one of the best and you paid for it. Now there are plenty of others who do similar or better work for a better price.

So stfu with your arrogant shit as you consider yourself a top designer and thats why you made this comment.

Designers can be overpriced. Thats a fact. And Webinc at this point is overpriced.

Dirty_F Who do you think had the most influence on the way adult sites looked in 2001 and now?

2001 - Webinc maybe? So fucking what? Right now theyre behind and overpriced. I dont give a shit about the past. People will keep ordering there because they were pioneers back then. Its dumb. Webinc is for noobs. Its for starting companies who have a budget and think they need to spend 1000's on a tour to make something work. Clueless. Webinc is all artsy shit. Sure the designs look nice in an art kind of way...nice colors and shit but they also look very outdated and i dont see how their designs would sell anything better than...whatever other company. Not at all.

they do great work :thumbsup

You go on with that thought:)
Fact is people pay those prices and they do so willingly.
"Better" and cheaper designers are not a matter to be concerned with appearently.

I have kept my prices the same for years more or less and business is still constant. To some people I am over priced and to others it's just fine! So you figure it out!

One thing I have noticed though is that the guys that want something on the cheap and fast tend to be more problematic than they are worth! Often I turn away those sort of business proposals. SO it's better to keep prices within a range just to keep bottom feeders away.

And thats a fact to. Maybe that's the idea for some designers prices it works for me and it must work for WebInc as well and Wylde...

Ok, i just clicked a random example on their site.

http://www.kreadult.com/portfolio/pa.../tokyo-slaves/

This page together with a sign up page probably cost like 1000 dollars right?

I wouldnt use it for free. And i mean it. Its totally chaotic. The color hurt your eyes. Its messy. The red links are a horrible choice on the black background etc. The areas left free for content are way too small to sell anything. The only thing that grabs your attention (in a bad way) when you visit that page are the colors which make you want to close it again.

I'm pretty goddamn sure i could whip up a similar page in frontpage where i focus on the actual content instead of an all artsy design and convert 10x better than that tour.

You are fucking moron.

Bye!

It's all opinion.. Yah some opinions mean more than others.. But this is just you hating...

Everyone knows that it's the content that sells not the photoshopped graphics in a tour..

Is WebInc. busy?

i dont think hes the problem, the designers that charge peanuts are the problem, this is rampant in the mainstream business also, just look on craigslist. But for the most part the designs and work matches the price. You pay 100 for a site, youll get a $100 site.
in the end if you want top notch design you'll pay top notch pricing simply because no matter how you slice it amazing designers aren't cheap and cheap designers aren't amazing.

sure you might luck out one in hundreds of times on a fresh new designer with no experience that'll do amazing work, but his pricing wont stay dirt cheap for long once he realizes what his work and time is worth.

ps: adultdesign.com for all your highest quality, design need. :thumbsup

Many people still seem to think the tour will do all the work (of selling the product). I used to think that as well and paid 2k for a tour only to find out my product didnt sell. Then eventually i started to make the most simple tours where focus was on the content and not the beautiful design. Guess what i sold more than ever before. With tours i made for free. Thats why i said noobs buy from Webinc. They think as long as the tour looks all like a piece of art its gonna sell. The surfer doesnt give a shit about that. They want to see hot fucking content exploding in their face when they click a link. Not some small thumbs surrounded by 50 different colors and fonts and other shit that takes your attention away from the content.

Eat my shit.

Huh? Yeah thats all im trying to say? You are the one who seems to think differently? Wtf.

Are there 2 different people sitting behind your computer or what? You are weird.

You can say that without saying a company over charges and people should pay half for the same quality work and people are idiots to pay that amount..

great so now people think they are idiots to pay $2500 so they are going to pay $1200...

Everyone wants shit for free..

I want to buy content but you kno what.. I can go to your competitor and pay him half..

I want a membership on a porn site but you know what I'mma just hit the tubes instead..

Blahhhhhhh

God, what a bs. You act as if any company can just say "ok my shit is 3k and thats whats its worth. If you dont spend that and go to someone cheaper you are clueless".
Things have their price. Every product has and they can be overpriced. Including good design companies. How fucking hard is it to admit that. Webinc is overpriced. Their designs are NOT worth the money you pay for it anymore. It used to be worth it but now it isnt. There are other and better solutions. Fact. And just because they were hot in 2001 doesnt change anything.

And i paid shitloads on content and designs etc so dont give me that shit that im so cheap blah blah. I always paid what i thought a certain product was worth. And back in 2001 Webinc was worth it and now not anymore. Hey shit happens, stop denying it. Im not hating...i have nothing against them. Im just being real.

2500 is pretty cheap imho.

I don't understand whether WebInc is sold to another company or just moved to Slovakia?

Blah blah.

Franck ICQ me.

its funny to see price ranges from $599 to $5,000 for paysites... i dont understand why people dont realize its a global economy and time is money. Lets say a paysite takes a week to do.. why make $15 an hour.... why do some peops sell themselves so cheap???

go be a graphic designer for any biz in the US and make $40k+ a year if you only want to get $15 an hour.....

Hi everyone,

thanks for all your posts. We have officially announced this change by email but if you still have any questions you can drop me an email to [email protected].

Now, I will try to react on your posts here.... sorry if I skip some (just too many posts :)

Mssimpson ----- to charge $800 might seem a bit low but it depends on the designer you're using. Getting the design from a freelancer might cost much less than having it designed by a company that employs several full-time people. Also, as we all (working from or with companies outside US) know, the dollar rate has changed quite a lot so our prices has to reflect the global economy.

Brujah and other people, thanks for bringing Kreadult.com up, really appreciate it.

SykkBoy2 ----- yes, we're doing lots of stuff for your guys so I hope you're satisfied with everything we've done for AdultPaymaster.com now.

'So Fucking Money ----- I am sorry webinc did not respond to you, we were not checking emails @ webinc anymore. I am sure the the guys at InsaneAdultCreations.com will do great work for you but if you'll ever need some banners done, just drop me a line and I will give you a bunch for free ;)

Sarah_MaxCash ----- thanks for the support and all your kind words, you have always been a very cool and generous girl, even though I have never had a chance to met you. If you're still in London then we might have a drink or two one day (during my biz trip there).

payd2purv ----- thanks for all the support, I don't recall you, have we ever done some work for you?

BradM ----- how's it going buddy, long time we spoke... Hit me on ICQ or Skype sometime ;)

dirtyf ----- one of the reasons we decided to launch Kreadult.com was because we felt there was lack of innovation at webinc. Our mainstream work done by Krea was using some of the newest bells and web 2.0 whistles, xhtml/css tableless layouts and all that stuff, while the adult work was was missing all of it (partly because the clients were demanding the old-school stuff, partly because the costs had to be kept low). Now @ Kreadult.com, we are trying to implement all these new features and try to deliver designs that deliver results.

Yoni ----- webinc has not been sold to another company and is still owned by Todd aka sextoyking. It's the entire creative team that has moved under a new brand - Kreadult.com. We used this name to follow the Krea trend set by our parent company Krea.com (EN version soon), a dynamic Central European web design firm that has been doing work for lots of mainstream firms including insurance companies, banks and even airlines. We have been operating from Slovakia for 8 years now.

A1R3K ----- sorry, if you need anything done just use [email protected] instead of [email protected]. I will surely get back to you and will add a bunch of freebies - if you're still interested.

Okay, a question worth a free banner ;))

How do I change my name from Webinc Peter to something else? Cannot figure it out...

Mail eric @ adult.com

And i dont need a banner but thanks anyway :)

Dirty F, thanks for your help, will do so now ;)

Okay, if you'll need one or want to give it out to anyone, just say so.

Give it to a1r3k please, he will hit you up.

It would benefit them to publish that statement on the webinc.com site and direct the traffic/clients to the correct place.

DirtyF - okay, just let him know to drop me an email ([email protected]) and we'll take care of him good.

Cyndalie - since the Webinc.com domain name is not owned by Krea, we have no longer reach on this. We were providing our services (design & support) to Webinc.com, however after we have ceased our business relationship, we no longer have access to this.

VERY TRUE :P

Krea_peter you're really a peace maker to this thread. lol
Now everyone knows what really happened to webinc and I was really amazed with your new goals and looking forward on your continues success!

You'll always remain as an inspiration to all the adult designers out there. :thumbsup

Yoy guys claiming webinc is overpriced or makes shitty designs have no clue. They made more sites than anyone else out there. And their sites are making millions of dollars, they convert, simple as that.

They were in Slovakia all the time.

Why is webinc.com parked?

they are now at http://kreadult.com/

hm,m . remember they were really pricey..