Good post. :)

Hillary just got PWNED!

People rag on Fox all the time and I don't really understand why. Its my news channel of choice and I don't see how they aren't balanced. They have people with opposite point of views on all the time. You have to be careful not to drink of koolaid of any media outlet and make your own decision.

Peedy you have to be kidding FOX is so to the right it's not even funny, just like MSNBC is far left, if you want balanced news don't watch either.

Oh things are way different this year. It's gonna be like when Reagan ran. The masses are fed up and that does not look good for any republican running in Nov. Even the repubs are saying it is gonna be worse than after Nixon and watergate.

WTF does a college degree have to do with whether or not one is racist?

And you never were, nor will you ever be "my friend."

I am sorry, but you neglected to answer my question. Who was the last president to win that did not carry MI?

i love keith.
he's hot. :)

Ding Dong the bitch is dead! Thank goodness.

Fox can't appear to be Republican and at the same time be "fair and balanced". By appearing republican they are already being biased. Show me a network that pisses of both the the dems and repubs on a regualr basis and I'll show you a network that's actually being "fair and blanced"

Jesus Christ. She was referencing the fact that when RFK was assasinated in California June the nomination wasnt decided yet. She also referenced Bill Clinton's campaign in 92 not being decided until June.

She has every right to continue her campaign until the convention. Thats what the convention is actually for. Not some ass kissing party for someone who was decided as the nominee in April.

She cant win according to the math but she still has the super delegates and she has gone this far, why do you care if she continues? And she makes a valid point. She has won every major state. California, Texas, New York, Pennsylvania, Florida..... And when the "nomination" was supposedly all locked up for Obama she won huge in West Virginia. Granted its back water WV but still, that shouldnt happen.

She should continue her campaign, they should both suck it up and combine forces for the general. Obama as the Prez, Clinton as the VP. Hell throw a promise of Edwards as the Attorney General and it unifies the party. Just my :2 cents:

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Logic will not be tolerated here sir. You must be a racist.




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How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

That questions is just as irrelevant as the one you asked....when placed in context.

Why?

1) Obama leads McCain in every Michigan General Election Poll except for 1 (McCain leads by 0.6). And that's without a solution to the delegate problem.

2) Obama is redrawing the electoral map. He is putting Republican strongholds like Virginia, Mississippi and Georgia into play.

3) Take everything you've known about past Presidential races and throw it into the garbage. His organization and fund raising is nothing like anyone has ever seen before. New voters and those who are used to being disenfranchised by Republican cage tactics are being catered to.

BS. Maybe he gets Virginia if he puts Webb as his VP.

If he is so good at organizing how come he got smoked by 40 points in WV and 30 points in KY? He's not winning WV and hell, even frickin Dukakis won WV.

I answered your question, you are just too fucking stupid to figure it out. You are so stuck in the past that you can't see the future that is staring you in the face. You will in Nov. when you get slapped across your racist face. History of past elections mean nothing this year. Just look at how Obama raised his money. It wasn't from big donors, it was from the little guys.

Red and Blue doesn't matter anymore.

Dude thanks so much, I was looking for a list like this and had no luck. Found nothing even close. This is awesome. Wow its crazy that this is not talked about more. People joke about it like it some crazy conspiracy theory but this information is for real. I mean how many of you have had this many people your connected with die? Just crazy.

Lets see here. New Mexico, Colorado, Mississippi, and Virginia to name a few.

I feel bad for you brother and regardless of whatever reason you have for hating me or what I am I still love ya man

I have empathy for your ignorance and fear and this allows me to understand and just as I can't fault a man with cancer for falling victim to his plight...... I cannot blame you for your sickness either.


As far as asking him what state did whatever in history etc etc .... you do understand the dynamics of conventional wisdom that you are basing your opinion on right?... And if so you would be intelligent enough to understand that there is nothing conventional about this election cycle and thus we have zero precedence to base any logical general election prediction on

in other words baddog.... you cannot predict the outcome of this contest based on passed election cycles as our country has never experienced an election cycle with anything close to the major variables in involved this time around

or in even simpler terms for you my friend.... We do know what's gonna happen because nonething that has happened so far has ever happened before

rest easy my friend

You do know that Kerry LOST NM and Arizona is right next doot to NM. Unless Obama has Richardson as VP he's not winning NM.

Also remember Kerry lost, Gore lost. Now even if you assume that Obama wins all the states that both Kerry and Gore won that's 248 electoral votes. Gore barely on won NM and Iowa while Kerry barely lost them. Kerry barely won NH which Gore barely lost. Even if Obama wins all 3( doubtful ) that leave him at 264 electoral votes. Or 5 shy of winning. So he needs at least one red state to win. And if he loses Mich or Penn he'll need 2 or 3 maybe more. Mich has 17 EVs and Penn 21. Virgina is the biggest of the group you name and it only has 13.

Let's see Kerry didnt win any of these states but did win Mich and had 252 electoral votes. All those four = 33 EVs subtract Mich 17 EVs and you get a net gain of 16 EVs for a total of 268 EVs. 268 EVs = LOSE.

Why is everyone hating on Baddog? He seems to be one of the few people here that takes shots at all three candidates.

Are you trying to be funny? Not one big state there, Colorado is up in the air and New Mexico...no fucking way. Tell me again how Obama wins this election?

Obama cannot bring change to our Country if she is VP. :2 cents:

Obama cannot do anything if he cannot get elected. :2 cents: :upsidedow

You are the same people that said he couldn't beat Hillary and look now. I just have to smile at all you fools who think that a 71 year grumpy senile old man is gonna beat the most inspiring candidate since Kennedy.:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

One other thing for all you McCain supporters. How do you think that quote of "I don't know much about the economy, but I am reading Greenspan's book is gonna play in the general election, when gas is $5 and we are in a full blown recession. You think people are gonna like that he wants to keep us in a war? Explain that to me.

You all keep showing me old maps, lets see some real meat on why Mac should be president.

72 if he wins when he gets the job. lmao

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Do you really have that much trouble remembering three years ago? Seven? Before that, there were Carter and Nixon.

I never said McCain should be president nor do I support him. But the fact is Obama has not won one big state besides his home state of IL, and most of those he lost before Wrightgate, and there are plenty of Hillary supporters that will not vote for him.

you have some good thoughts

cut to the chase - no matter who wins - just learn spanglish...
life in the declining years will be easier....

politicans are just tools of who ever is running this ship at the moment....

So you think Obama won't win NY, NJ, Mass, or California?:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So you think he'll win FL, MI, OH, PA and TX?

Actually yes, TX and Ohio will be close, but all the rest yes.:thumbsup

The Cubans think he is a joke for wanting to sit down with Raul Castro. Good luck in FL.

Most Cubans in Miami don't care about Cuba anymore. You've had 2 generations of American born Cubans and they wouldn't go back is both Castros died today and communism was banned. The only Cubans that care are the older ones and a lot of them have died and the rest that are still around have been in the US longer than they ever were in Cuba and they won't go back either. In case you didn't notice when Castro ceded power to his brother ther weren't any big celebrations in Miami. If that happened even 15 years ago there would have been HUGE crowds in the streets partying their asses off.

Quoted for truth. Also cubans are in the miami area for the most part. That's a big fucking state if you hadn't noticed. Not too many cubans in Tampa, Orlando, Tallahasee.

Pennsylvania - Has been D the last 4 elections but a swing state the last 2. Given Obama's showing, strong chance he'll lose it... 21EVs

Georgia - Was a swing state in 92 and 96, solid R since. Clinton won it in '92. Obama "could" win it. 15 EVs

Virginia - has been R the last 4 elections, was a swing state 92 and 96 but strong R since. Given even Clinton couldn't push it D, chance for Obama is slim. 13 EVs

Mississippi - Last D win was 76. Since 60 it's been D once and independent 2x.. In other words, this is an R state and hasn't been in play for the last 20 years. Doubtful Obama would win it.. 7 EVs

So winning Georgia won't make up for losing Pennsylvania...

However, Louisiana (9EVs) and Missouri (11EVs) could be in play for Obama. Both were D during Clinton and R since, both being in play last election. Given his showing, Missouri could be tight but I don't see why he couldn't take Louisiana.

The D party is really STUPID using Caucus's since you don't get a sense of how the real voters in those states are feeling.. Any "wins" there indicate squat about how the general election could go.. Iowa (7EVs) is an important one. Was D for 3 terms and was a swing state last time but went R.. Getting that back would be important. Even though Obama won the caucas, I have a feeling he wouldn't win in Nov given he's not getting the white collar vote.

Here's some other ones.
Ohio - D during Clinton, R during Bush with it being in play every term except Clinton's second term. Hillary beat Obama solidly so has a better chance at taking it away from McCain.. 20EVs.

Tennessee - D during Clinton, R during Bush with it being in play every term except the last one. Hillary beat Obama solidly so it could be in play and winnable.. 11EVs.

Arkansas - D during Clinton, R during Bush with it being in play last election. Hillary beat Obama solidly so it could be a win for her.. 6EVs.

Arizona - Clinton won it once but it's been in play the last 2 elections. Hillary beat Obama so it could be in play for her.. 10EVs.

At the end of the day, I see more upside for Clinton as opposed to Obama.. It's hard to tell for some important states though because of those stupid caucus's.

Bush... Twice... MI has been D for the last 4 terms.

So quite seriously, the past 8 years hasn't made many republicans change who they vote for this election?

I find that hard to believe, especially with the economy the way it's going right now. Seems to me if people were riding the fence, they'd be hopping over to the democrats, at least for this election?