Keith Oberman is great along with Lou Dobbs. Those are the only two people worth listening to on the news anymore.

I've heard the opposite that the younger generations want to be able to go back to cuba and visit.

A recession is defined by two consecutive quarters of negative growth. We have not had a single quarter of negative growth. No need to thank me for educating you.

Take the oil companies out of the equation and what do you get? We all know they are making record profits, but that is about all that is.

Al Gore could even win his home state. Obam won't win TN. I live here I know. Hell where I live which is one of the most democratic counties in the whole state Edwards got more votes than Obama in the primary and he dropped out a week before. Both each got about 15%. I wonder why? Oh yeah mostly white and these rednest don't like blackies. Harold Ford who is whiter than Obama lost a Senate race here again a white guy who everyone knew was corrupt. Obama may have a shot because we have a democrat for gov who also has pretty good rating right now. So who knows.

If the GOP can succesfully convicne these rednecks that Obama will take away their guns like they did with Gore and Kerry Obama has no chance.

• war
• oil
• economy
• disaster
• disease
• alienation
• debt

If we elect another republican I think it will be a sure sign to the rest of the world that our might nation is on the way down

.... people forget that the soviet union was once a great power

anything is possible

Comedy Central.

[QUOTE=GatorB;14232931If he is so good at organizing how come he got smoked by 40 points in WV and 30 points in KY? He's not winning WV and hell, even frickin Dukakis won WV.[/QUOTE]

Seriously, are you feigning ignorance on this one? You have no idea why he lost big appalachian states? Really?

I take it back. You know why they didn't vote for him.

The only way she gets the nomination is for Obama to get shot. History, as Chris points out in the video, this really could happen. We all KNOW that.

There are so many reasons it was dumb for her to point this out. She will certainly not benefit.

She is no different now, it's just that now people are starting to see through her.

You are so smart, that you know more than all the economists. You are such a fucking fag when it comes to protecting the worst president this country will ever see. You and Bush are the only ones who don't think we are in a recession. You can quote all the stats you want on what a recession is, but when inflation is going thru the roof and people are getting laid of in the tens of thousands, call it whatever you want, but we are in a world of shit thanks to your butt buddy Bush.

Let me educate you

Fed sees economy getting worse
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/21/news...utes/index.htm

Goldman Sachs: Brace For Recession In 2008
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n3692917.shtml

Recession 2008: How bad it can get
http://money.cnn.com/2008/01/23/news..._bad/index.htm

We have another winner for most ignorant and self important statement of the weekend. U KNOW SHIT.

A recession is defined by two consecutive quarters of negative growth...and until that happens it is immaterial who says we are in a recession...now isn't it?

BTW...I am not a fan of President Bush and never have been. I did not vote for him either time that he ran for the Presidency.

But he's such a great organaizer. That the excuses his supporter uses to say he can win red states. The same reason why he lost KY and WV is the same reason why he'll lose NC, SC, GA, TN, AL, MS, AR, ID, MT, NE, ND, SD, UT etc etc

Tell the vast majority of American who find it ahrder and harder to do even simple thing like buy FOOD and GAS for thier car and pay utility bills that there is nothing wrong with the economy. I can 100% guarantee you if McCain uses your reasoning in his campaign he will lose. Trying to teach a Econ 101 lesson to the voters will backfire. Voters are not in the mood to hear how "techically by definition" there's nothing wrong with the economy.

ever hear of the phrase "preception is reality"?

Gator, you and I are on the same page here. I always love republicans stating technical reasons why the economy is not in a recession. Mortgage crisis, gas at $4 and climbing, wages declining, an unending war, but things are ok:thumbsup

The king is a fucking tool and a waste of carbon.

Where is that picture of baghdad bob when I need it.

Many states are in mini-recessions, that is for sure. One of the hardest hit is Rhode Island where the Democrats looted the state.. big time.

Once again protect the fucks that did this to the country. All you fucking neocons can die a slow fucking death. Hopefully a painful one too.

I am waiting to hear how the economy in the shitter is Bill Clintons fault. Be a fucking man and admit that you and the rest of us have been fucked by Bush/Cheney/Rove/Rumsfeld/Wolfson

Please point to where I said that there is nothing wrong with the economy. The economy is in a positive growth slump but it is not yet into negative growth...and until it is there is not a recession...but it definitely is headed in that direction. The economy has been up and it has been down since the end of the Second World War...and the same cycle will take place over the next 63 years. In a capitalistic society this is inevitable.

FYI...I am not and have never been a Republican. Please point out where I have ever said "things are OK".

Bullshit.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recession

In macroeconomics, a recession is generally associated with a decline in a country's real gross domestic product (GDP), or negative real economic growth, for two or more successive quarters of a year. However, this rule doesn't always hold true. The National Bureau of Economic Research's (NBER) Business Cycle Dating Committee ultimately decides whether the economy has fallen into a recession. The NBER does not use any specific methodology for determining the start and end dates of a recession - instead it looks at a variety of economic indicators over various time periods and determines whether to declare that the economy is in a recession based on those data.

According to what you posted I did not state any bullshit...now did I? The NBER does not use any "specific" methodology sounds like voodoo (bullshit) to me. BTW...have they declared the nation to be in a recession...if so please provide the link?

They don't declare a recession until 6-18 months after the fact, but what difference does it make if you think taking many factors into account sounds like 'voodoo' to you?

Regardless of who decides to label a recession (and more than half of economic experts believe we are in a recession) it really doesnt matter. It doesnt take an economic scholar to know this country is in its worse shape since the great depression. More people have lost their houses to foreclosure since the depression, energy prices have skyrocketed out of control, food prices are the highest they've ever been, the dollar is at its weakest point ever, the US deficit is at its highest ever, consumer debt is at its highest level on record, and US wages are dropping. I cannot think of a worse recipe for economic disaster and I believe we have not even come close to seeing the worse.

Lets Cut the bullshit we are in fact in some form of recession and that’s a fact

And I define that as our economy being in decline with GDP on a slide. The thing that gets me though is that republicans refuse … I mean absolutely refuse to take blame for this shit and that’s from the white house all the way down to the want to be fiscal republican posting on GFY

Rerpublicans fucked our country up…. Plain and simple

No I've only lived here for 15 1/2 years so of course YOU who have probably never even been here let alone live here somehow know more than me about how this state works and the people in it. I would like to know WTF your issue is? Is wear if Obama did lose the election you'd call everyone who brought up the fact a retard and denied it happened just because you don't want to deal with reality. WISHING somehting to happen doesn't mean it WILL happen. At least I'm basing my opinion on FACTS. Show me any statistic that shows Obama is going to win TN.

here's the newest polls. Not even close.


Rasmussen Reports 4/7/08 Obama 31.0 McCain 58.0
Survey USA 3/6/08 Obama 38.0 McCain 54.0
Middle Tennessee State University Poll 2/28/08 Obama 36.0 McCain 50.0

You state we are not in a recession the PEOPLE aka VOTERS feel that we are. It doesn't matter if we "technically" are or not. Any candidate that talks like you with his Econ 101 logic on why we aren't in a recession will LOSE in November because the people aka VOTERS will feel he is out of touch. Do you get it yet?

Well I have lived here for 36 years and I can say for a fact that Mccain has no chance here.

Now doesnt that sound dumb. Like I said, you dont know poo.

BTW Polls arent facts. They are biased surveys.