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clickhappy 06-09-2008 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rewn (Post 14295825)
Wait until Iran gets invaded , it will hit $10, easy.
thats what they said about Iraq. We'd see $20 barrels of oil.

clickhappy 06-09-2008 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 14295706)
Used to be that I always knew a $20/25 credit card charge I did not recognize was probably gas. Now it is like $70 to fill my tank.
Same here, $70 to fill the tank.

shermo 06-09-2008 05:22 PM
$4.73 for premium... Oh well. it's a necessity. :)

TurboAngel 06-09-2008 06:40 PM
Well IMP we ALL have 2 pay wayyyyyyy to much.

:)

Pleasurepays 06-09-2008 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by clickhappy (Post 14298000)
thats what they said about Iraq. We'd see $20 barrels of oil.
exactly! NO WAR FOR OIL!!


er... uhm....

anyway.... what about that global warming....

dav3 06-09-2008 09:20 PM
:thumbsup

Holly 06-09-2008 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 14298608)
I'd rather pay $6 a gallon than drive that.

seeric 06-09-2008 09:41 PM
4.00?

gas here in porn valley is 4.87 now. station owner told me its going to be 5.50 by end of june.

dav3 06-09-2008 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 14298625)
I'd rather pay $6 a gallon than drive that.
You apparently didn't read the link.

Holly 06-09-2008 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 14298664)
You apparently didn't read the link.
I clicked on it and there was a picture of an ugly car. That was all I saw.

dav3 06-09-2008 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 14298688)
That was all I saw.
Trust me, I'm not surprised.

http://world.honda.com/news/2008/408.../images/01.jpg

Holly 06-09-2008 10:26 PM
What the fuck are you talking about?? :1orglaugh

I told you I looked at your ugly burgundy car. I looked at the white one, too. It looks better than the other. But I would still pay outrageously high gas prices rather than drive what's in that first pic.

tony286 06-09-2008 10:30 PM
actually instead of worrying about Alaska and the 1 years worth of oil, we should find out why iraq is only operating at a third of capacity? Until the dollar comes back gas is going to be expensive,there isnt a shortage.

BlackCrayon 06-10-2008 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by emjay (Post 14296395)
Agreed, could never work out why their vehicles needed to be so large.

Americans view cheap oil as some sort of birthright. Half a century ago, they were the world's largest exporter of oil. Now they are the world's largest importer of it.

And the demand for the liquid gold in China and elsewhere is only just begining...
Its not always that easy. Some people need their trucks for work, to tow trailers/boats, etc.

BlackCrayon 06-10-2008 06:01 AM
"There is no justification for the current rise in prices," Saudi Arabia says..

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...y/5828380.html

CDSmith 06-10-2008 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 14298608)
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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 14298702)
That's badass.

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Signaling a rapid advancement in its fuel cell vehicle technology, Honda today announced that it will begin production in Japan of its next generation FCX hydrogen powered fuel cell vehicle (FCV) in three to four years. The FCX Concept vehicle, unveiled just four months ago and now on display at the North American International Auto Show, boasts a fuel cell system that delivers more power in less space, in a unique, low-floor fuel cell platform. The premium fuel cell sedan offers the ultimate in clean-running performance, and represents Honda's vision of future mobility in which vehicles are less dependent on fossil fuels and produce no significant emissions.

Honda's FCX Concept defines a new stage in the evolution of fuel cell vehicle technology. The FCX Concept is designed with a low center of gravity and a full-sized cabin, offering the kind of driving pleasure and roomy interior previously unimaginable in a fuel cell vehicle. The FCX Concept is designed with a short front end to make the most of its unique low-floor platform, creating a comfortably large cabin. A tapered cabin profile and accentuated fender flare create an attractively dynamic look. The FCX Concept is an FCX that delivers style and excitement.

Using an innovative approach, the new, high-efficiency, compact V Flow fuel cell platform makes possible the lowest-floor platform in an FCV ever. Oxygen and hydrogen flow from the top to the bottom of the fuel cell stack (vertical gas flow) and the fuel cells are arranged vertically in the center tunnel (vertebral layout) for new, high-efficiency fuel cell packaging (volume efficiency).

Compact enough to fit neatly into the center tunnel but robust enough to put out 100kW of power, Honda's V Flow fuel cell stack offers space efficiency and high-energy output. The key to fuel cell performance is water management; Honda's new system takes full advantage of gravity to efficiently discharge water formed during electricity generation. This improves performance in sub-zero temperatures, further solving the problem of cold-weather startup that has been a key obstacle to the commercialization of FCV's. Now, with the V Flow fuel cell stack Honda has achieved ultra-low-temperature start-up performance on par with that of a gasoline engine. The FCX Concept drive train features three energy-efficient motors- one 80kW in the front and a 25kW space-efficient motor in each rear wheel, leaving ample room for a spacious cabin.

One barrier to FCV commercialization has been the need for high-capacity yet lightweight and compact hydrogen storage. Honda has now developed a new approach to expanding storage capacity, a newly developed hydrogen absorption material in the tank doubles capacity to 5 kg of hydrogen at 5000 PSI, extending cruising range to 350 miles, equivalent to that of a gasoline-engine car.

Approaching the vehicle, the driver is recognized by vehicle sensors and intelligent cameras unlocking the doors. The driving unit also automatically sets the steering wheel, accelerator pedal, and instrument panel to the optimal position for the driver. The instrument panel tilts up and down 45 degrees in response to vehicle speed to give either a sense of security or a relaxed feel. A system installed in the instrument panel senses the driver's line of sight shifting toward menu icons, and operates switches accordingly, allowing the driver hands-free operation of audio, AC and other systems.

As part of its effort to ensure the viability of a hydrogen-based society, Honda is developing the Home Energy Station (HES), a comprehensive system designed to meet residential energy needs by supplying electricity and heat in addition to hydrogen fuel for vehicles. Generating hydrogen from natural gas supplied for residential use, the HES system also offers consumers the convenience of refueling hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles at home. The system is equipped with fuel cells that generate and supply electricity to the home, and is configured to recover the heat produced during power generation for domestic water heating. In addition to reducing carbon dioxide emissions by some 40 percent, the HES system is expected to lower the total running cost of household electricity, gas and vehicle fuel by 50 percent.
Interested to see what the other auto makers will come out with in this line. Better looking hydrogen fuel cell cars can't be far off on the horizon.

ilbb 06-10-2008 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by TimBlaze (Post 14294996)
okay so gas just hit $4.09 here..... this is starting to get a little crazy....who the hell is responsible for this shit?!?!?!
$4.09 per gallon? that's $1.08/liter - that's fucking cheap!!!

In EU, specially in my country (cz) gas costs $2 / liter - that's $7,56 per gallon

Pleasurepays 06-10-2008 07:21 AM
everyone's a capitalist when they feel its working in their benefit. the moment there is a backlash... suddenly everything is unfair, not working and broken and needs to change radically.

here's an idea... how about a free market economy? this is America right? the market will adjust, prices will come back down, vehicle fuel economies will improve tremendously, SUV's will become extinct for the most part, energy policies will change, alternative fuels will be explored more etc etc etc. Let the market do its job and suck it up. you had a good run. get over it.

as Europeans are pointing out, we have had absurdly low gas prices forever.

tranza 06-10-2008 10:05 AM
It's getting crazy!

shermo 06-10-2008 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 14299596)
everyone's a capitalist when they feel its working in their benefit. the moment there is a backlash... suddenly everything is unfair, not working and broken and needs to change radically.

here's an idea... how about a free market economy? this is America right? the market will adjust, prices will come back down, vehicle fuel economies will improve tremendously, SUV's will become extinct for the most part, energy policies will change, alternative fuels will be explored more etc etc etc. Let the market do its job and suck it up. you had a good run. get over it.

as Europeans are pointing out, we have had absurdly low gas prices forever.
I agree with you on almost everything you've said (the sentiment about Americans being capitalist when it pleases them), but as always, I need to reiterate this:
Europeans drive significantly less and they have subway systems in place.

TidalWave 06-10-2008 01:32 PM
yeah its getting high, but hopefully!!! there will be less traffic because of it

VeriSexy 06-11-2008 02:54 AM
That's nothing when it's hitting close to $7 a gallon here

testpie 06-11-2008 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 14300986)
Europeans drive significantly less and they have subway systems in place.
We may drive less but don't be under the disillusion that our public transport systems are that developed. Here in the UK the only subway system I can think of is in London - the best the rest of the country has are shoddy train services which are overpriced and famed for being late, crappy bus services, and for the lucky few in one of the cities that have them, cobbled-together tram systems.

CDSmith 06-11-2008 03:19 AM
I stand corrected...

Gas isn't $1.31/litre here, it's now $1.36 as of yesterday ha ha all hail king opec.

Big John 06-11-2008 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 14300986)
Europeans drive significantly less and they have subway systems in place.
Are you really that clueless to believe that the majority of Europeans have any kind of access to a subway system? A few major cities only enjoy that luxury. Oddly much like the US.

Drive less - sure for several reasons. One being that they haven't been spoilt by cheap gas so have needed a working public transport system. Something the US may have to start looking at until/unless an alternative fuel becomes truly viable. But subway systems..... :error


Pleasurepays summary was perhaps the most intelligent in this thread so far for the little it's worth.

Big John 06-11-2008 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by testpie (Post 14303851)
We may drive less but don't be under the disillusion that our public transport systems are that developed. Here in the UK the only subway system I can think of is in London - the best the rest of the country has are shoddy train services which are overpriced and famed for being late, crappy bus services, and for the lucky few in one of the cities that have them, cobbled-together tram systems.

Newcastle has one too I believe. Have to agree though with the hugely overpriced services we do have. They are better than muc h of the US but only for those who can afford them. Unfortunately it's often MUCH cheaper to drive despite the fuel price and many out of town shopping complexes have a crap transport service now so a car is very much needed. Amazing how many Americans underestimate how much we sadly do need to drive now.

SykkBoy 06-11-2008 08:52 AM
The problem with soaring gas prices here in the US (and I'm sure it's affecting the Europeans too) is the hike has been so fast...this hasn't been a gradual increase. So with it happening so quick, it's caused a ripple effect and has causes prices to go up for everything else as well. It's caused people to cut back on shopping, entertainment, etc. which is causing several small business owners to go out of business. I understand, this is part of the free market system, businesses are going to come and go, but it is having an impact on the economy and will get worse.

tehHinjew 06-11-2008 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14303862)
I stand corrected...

Gas isn't $1.31/litre here, it's now $1.36 as of yesterday ha ha all hail king opec.
1.49.4$ here in montreal

sucks so much when you fill up 91 octaine lol

Scott McD 06-11-2008 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Big John (Post 14304387)
Amazing how many Americans underestimate how much we sadly do need to drive now.
Yup. You'd think we didn't need cars here.... :Oh crap

mx8829 06-11-2008 10:51 AM
I pay $4.59/gal here

testpie 06-11-2008 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Big John (Post 14304387)
Newcastle has one too I believe.
You learn something new every day - I honestly thought it was just London that had an underground subway.

Elli 06-11-2008 11:34 AM
I filled up in Washington State yesterday and it was $1.29 a litre for 89 octane. Ugh. Two weeks ago it was $1.12.


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