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st0ned 06-13-2008 12:26 PM

Nice to finally know which one is official. I had been promoting yours anyway. :thumbsup

Socks 06-13-2008 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by nickey1952 (Post 14315018)
that is what you think my friend, I will not stoop to your idiot behavior, I will show you on monday more, I am too busy shooting for another client today and do not have time or effort to answer scumbags and idiot computer nerds that sit behind the computer and drive traffic all day, so read the headline of this this website, and do it...

Whoah whoah whoah..

Did you just call all affiliates scumbags and losers?

Who the fuck is this?

mailman 06-13-2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14315425)
Whoah whoah whoah..

Did you just call all affiliates scumbags and losers?

Who the fuck is this?

Glad someone else see this guy for who he is, Hes also bad mouthed the models also and called them trash in another thread.

Its only a matter of time before people like this are put our of business! :thumbsup

Ditto 06-13-2008 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by AbulletAway (Post 14315344)
Yes, a lot of work goes in to it. Models sometimes come and go. There's nothing you can do about that. But, when you have people actively deceiving webmasters and when they called out for it and proven that they lied and or mislead those hardworking webmasters and some people, you for example, still back them, wow! I just don't know where to begin with that?

You say you believe in honest business and yet you are defending these people? They have contradicted themselves, they have now been shown to use misleading tactics and we're the bad guys for taking on a model who got tired of the bullshit or just wanted a change or whatever the reason? We're the bad guys?

Now the conspiracy is so big we're putting words in the mouth of models? You must not have any respect or models or think we have like some covert CIA tactics of brain washing and mind control to make her say all those things. In any case it is just staggering to me that anyone would still try to defend what they did? Because if they did that, what else did they do? How else was she mistreated?

On a side note. I am gonna stay out of this because really it's not my place. I shouldn't have jumped in in the first place. It was just knee jerk reaction to my company being attacked. I have known these people for years. I have seen them turn shit down because it sounded just a tad too shady. I know these people and know that when it comes to honesty and decency, you will not find better people than Kevin and Mailman. Me? You could do better. But, Mailman and Kevin. They are the kinda good people you just don't think exist any more.


Can something be cleared up at least for me, was she not with that first webmaster and getting paid?? I would think so since he has content of her and has a site. Did you guys not offer her a site knowing she had a site just for more money I am guessing??

I guess Im just confused but it seems the first webmaster has every right to be upset at her and you guys, no one went to him till after the fact it seems from what I have read.

Name calling is childish and you both keep doing it. Also having the model do that video makes her looks stupid because she is acting like she has no clue on whats going on, when out of all three of you she is the one in control and playing you against each other it seems.

I think everyone has a right to what they think, but pushing this as far as it has gone now seems like more work then its worth. Like said models come and go, webmasters last longer.

nrmone2001 06-13-2008 12:51 PM

No the idiots and scumbags are MP, they are real bottom feeders and none of this really bothers me, cause I know the truth, keep working with her and making her site successful, Have a good day you all,. am on location and will let you all fight it out. Truth Prevails all the time, my contract is still in force and money is still flowing, thank you to my 1242 affiliates and all the people that have stood by me.....NO time for this. it is just crapola

AbulletAway 06-13-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 14315544)
Can something be cleared up at least for me, was she not with that first webmaster and getting paid?? I would think so since he has content of her and has a site. Did you guys not offer her a site knowing she had a site just for more money I am guessing??

I guess Im just confused but it seems the first webmaster has every right to be upset at her and you guys, no one went to him till after the fact it seems from what I have read.

Name calling is childish and you both keep doing it. Also having the model do that video makes her looks stupid because she is acting like she has no clue on whats going on, when out of all three of you she is the one in control and playing you against each other it seems.

I think everyone has a right to what they think, but pushing this as far as it has gone now seems like more work then its worth. Like said models come and go, webmasters last longer.

Maybe you missed the part apart me saying I am gonna stay out of this? However, since you quoted me directly. Yes a webmaster can be mad about anything he wants. However, when they lie and mislead people to save face, that's when there's a problem.

Sure, name calling can be childish but sometimes it really, really fits the person it's intended for. And of course, sometimes it's just plain fun! I also like long walks on the beach at night and snuggling after sex. :)

Ditto 06-13-2008 01:06 PM

Well AbulletAway guess I should of not quoted just you, was for anyone in this mess to answer. I agree with you webmaster or anyone can be mad, thats what makes the world go around, but seems like the only person who lied and mislead anyone is the model.

I just think MP should read between the lines and when it happens to them they might think twice on anything she has said to them about the first webmaster because I am sure she will do it to them too.

I guess one thing I learned in this business that models LOVE when webmasters fight over them and will say and do anything to keep the attention.

After Shock Media 06-13-2008 01:14 PM

Ok her body language just sucks ass and makes me not believe a fucking word she is trying to say. Still comes off like a cat who ate the canary and if others do not see this I am amazed.

Personally I am still at the point where I do not care who runs the official site as I still think she is playing people. She, not the three webmasters, not medium pimping, not anyone else but her. Posting videos will not do shit, specially when a lot of the talking is done by the shooter and she just repeats or agrees. When asked actual questions she has to roll eyes and actually think to find the answers which is almost saying she is searching her head to keep lies straight.

Want to end this crap now. Each of you post your gawd damn contracts with her signatures. That would end this shit in a heart beat and then everyone would know what the fuck is really up.

mailman 06-13-2008 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nrmone2001 (Post 14315553)
Truth Prevails all the time

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickey1952 (Post 14037020)
I am finished with her but I still have two more years of content to put up on her so I willl enjoy the money all by myself and work on www.ohmaimai.com and when i am finished with her you can pick up the crumbs.... Have fun and good luck
Nickey Milo

I think we already know the truth about you guys and what you think.

Funny how when this is out you guys dont have TIME for this and just walk away.

:1orglaugh

commonsense 06-13-2008 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14315677)
Ok her body language just sucks ass and makes me not believe a fucking word she is trying to say. Still comes off like a cat who ate the canary and if others do not see this I am amazed.

Personally I am still at the point where I do not care who runs the official site as I still think she is playing people. She, not the three webmasters, not medium pimping, not anyone else but her. Posting videos will not do shit, specially when a lot of the talking is done by the shooter and she just repeats or agrees. When asked actual questions she has to roll eyes and actually think to find the answers which is almost saying she is searching her head to keep lies straight.

Want to end this crap now. Each of you post your gawd damn contracts with her signatures. That would end this shit in a heart beat and then everyone would know what the fuck is really up.

Don't let logic get in the way of a good old fashion mud slinging contest.

Ditto 06-13-2008 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14315677)
Ok her body language just sucks ass and makes me not believe a fucking word she is trying to say. Still comes off like a cat who ate the canary and if others do not see this I am amazed.

Personally I am still at the point where I do not care who runs the official site as I still think she is playing people. She, not the three webmasters, not medium pimping, not anyone else but her. Posting videos will not do shit, specially when a lot of the talking is done by the shooter and she just repeats or agrees. When asked actual questions she has to roll eyes and actually think to find the answers which is almost saying she is searching her head to keep lies straight.

Want to end this crap now. Each of you post your gawd damn contracts with her signatures. That would end this shit in a heart beat and then everyone would know what the fuck is really up.

Totally agree, thanks I thought it was just me thinking its all her fault and she is just loving the attention and I dont believe a word she said on that video either, she looks like she can give two shits about anything and would say anything to just better herself, and making those around her look like fools.

AbulletAway 06-13-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ditto (Post 14315636)
Well AbulletAway guess I should of not quoted just you, was for anyone in this mess to answer. I agree with you webmaster or anyone can be mad, thats what makes the world go around, but seems like the only person who lied and mislead anyone is the model.

I just think MP should read between the lines and when it happens to them they might think twice on anything she has said to them about the first webmaster because I am sure she will do it to them too.

I guess one thing I learned in this business that models LOVE when webmasters fight over them and will say and do anything to keep the attention.

What? A model leave us? Never would that happen! Hell not even Jesus could make a model want to leave us. Oh wait... Nevermind... http://www.chickstodiefor.com/ohno.gif

nickey1952 06-13-2008 02:36 PM

I have a contract they have a contract! who care!
 
And she is getting paid by both of us, to me that is not a problem, i am still shooting her and she is getting paid from the site Sweetyurizan., i still have a contract and as far as it is concerned I do not care what they say, I have moved on in my thinking, their site has pushed our site, way up and it has never been better. Once a scumbag always a scumbag, that is what the whole group of them are for approaching the girl behind her agents back and telling her she will make $200,000 a year with them. That is what her agent told me. I posted what she made with me last year and what she has made with me this year. I do not put people in headlights out in some room in Palm springs and ask them questions, then put it all over the internet. I have been shooting her since the day after she turned 18 and will keep shooting her till she doesn't want any more of my money...It makes for good content, the sad thing is they have put her in this situation.. I would never do that, I replied in anger towards them when I discovered the site and I apologized to her personally. I have nothing more to say to Eddie aka Mike, MP , dick wad Mailman that sits behind a computer all day posting shit on the internet. All of you GFY. Thanks again to my affiliates that keep pushing the website, and sticking by me...I rest it all.

After Shock Media 06-13-2008 02:39 PM

Nickey1952 then post your contract. I am sure there are many affiliates that will not promote none of the versions until it is resolved. Some of us do not think it is the site owners but the model itself. That would be fixed by a contract now would it not?

Do not want her in this situation post your fucking contract.

AbulletAway 06-13-2008 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickey1952 (Post 14316050)
And she is getting paid by both of us, to me that is not a problem, i am still shooting her and she is getting paid from the site Sweetyurizan., i still have a contract and as far as it is concerned I do not care what they say, I have moved on in my thinking, their site has pushed our site, way up and it has never been better. Once a scumbag always a scumbag, that is what the whole group of them are for approaching the girl behind her agents back and telling her she will make $200,000 a year with them. That is what her agent told me. I posted what she made with me last year and what she has made with me this year. I do not put people in headlights out in some room in Palm springs and ask them questions, then put it all over the internet. I have been shooting her since the day after she turned 18 and will keep shooting her till she doesn't want any more of my money...It makes for good content, the sad thing is they have put her in this situation.. I would never do that, I replied in anger towards them when I discovered the site and I apologized to her personally. I have nothing more to say to Eddie aka Mike, MP , dick wad Mailman that sits behind a computer all day posting shit on the internet. All of you GFY. Thanks again to my affiliates that keep pushing the website, and sticking by me...I rest it all.


Wow, look who is the keyboard warrior today. Something tells me you wouldn't be talking like this face to face. You sound like total scum, no wonder she's done with you.

SarahLLO 06-13-2008 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 14314791)
I have nothing with MP, but when a program deliberately tries to fuck up another webmasters work then you can say what you want it is fucked up.

I'm not involved at all, but I just had to point out that you're taking a completely one-sided view of this. I've read quite a few posts before where the guys promoting sweetyurizan.com have been bashing MP - in fact, the first I even heard about all of this drama was a thread made by one of her old webmaster talking shit about "media pimps" (and it looks like he still can't get their name right...). So if you're going to condemn MP for trying to "fuck up" the guys who run her old site, what do you call what the other guys are doing, and why do you not seem to have a problem with their tactics as well?

Sorry for butting in, that just made no sense to me when I was reading your post. Carry on with the drama.

mailman 06-13-2008 04:16 PM

Also I have been wondering who this Ditto was and with 100 posts in like 3 years why she has such an intrest in this only to have found out she is Sebastian Sands wife.. lol

So Ditto if that is you posting ..... why dont you make like your husband Sebastian Sands and leave the thread... LOL

Tempest 06-13-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14315677)
Ok her body language just sucks ass and makes me not believe a fucking word she is trying to say. Still comes off like a cat who ate the canary and if others do not see this I am amazed.

Personally I am still at the point where I do not care who runs the official site as I still think she is playing people. She, not the three webmasters, not medium pimping, not anyone else but her. Posting videos will not do shit, specially when a lot of the talking is done by the shooter and she just repeats or agrees. When asked actual questions she has to roll eyes and actually think to find the answers which is almost saying she is searching her head to keep lies straight.

Want to end this crap now. Each of you post your gawd damn contracts with her signatures. That would end this shit in a heart beat and then everyone would know what the fuck is really up.

:thumbsup I completely agree.. I've got big tit traffic to send but this entire thing stinks.

Reading between the lines, here's what I think has happened... WM1 had a contract with her to have content of her on a site... I've read a few of these solo girl contracts and the vast majority aren't worth shit... I have a strong feeling that the contract does not state that the site will be her "official" site and I doubt it had any wording that she was locked in for the duration of the contract to NOT be able to open another site in her name or to shoot content for another site that bares her name.. I also suspect that it probably is in force for a couple more years but is poorly written such that they can continue to run the site with her likeness and content for that time frame.. The one thing I'm not sure about though is whether or not her 50% revenue from the site is also in force for that time frame.. WM1 seems to indicate it is, but she said it isn't.. So one of them is lieing.

I suspect there are lies on both sides (more so on her part than MPs)... As part of all this, MP should have seen her previous contract by now and yet they have not said anything about it. If they haven't, then that's just crazy.. Even IF she's lost her copy or something, she should be able to get a copy, or a lawyer should be able to easily get a copy as well. However, given MP isn't taking legal action, I suspect a lot of what WM1 has said about his contract is true. Given WM1 isn't taking legal action, I suspect my analysis of their contract is close to being accurate as well. Although from their end of things it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

As After Shock Media said, what she says on a video tape means squat. At this point, I for one need to see some concrete proof. Hell, I'd be willing to sign a non-disclosure to review both contracts for myself so I knew which to promote.

Sebastian Sands 06-13-2008 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mailman (Post 14316706)
Also I have been wondering who this Ditto was and with 100 posts in like 3 years why she has such an intrest in this only to have found out she is Sebastian Sands wife.. lol

So Ditto if that is you posting ..... why dont you make like your husband Sebastian Sands and leave the thread... LOL

You "found out".. like no one knows this.. most people we deal with know this, it is not a secret or anything..LOL :thumbsup

Reprobate 06-13-2008 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14315425)
Whoah whoah whoah..

Did you just call all affiliates scumbags and losers?

Who the fuck is this?

I do believe he did.

mailman 06-13-2008 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian Sands (Post 14317293)
You "found out".. like no one knows this.. most people we deal with know this, it is not a secret or anything..LOL :thumbsup

I just find it ammusing the only 2 sticking up for the other side are a married couple. :1orglaugh

Sebastian Sands 06-13-2008 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman (Post 14317365)
I just find it ammusing the only 2 sticking up for the other side are a married couple. :1orglaugh

the only 2 that you know off. I am not sticking particularly for anyone, I was pointing out that one affiliate program is fucking over another, and all that for a model who will be long gone when all of us are still here. Just because your paycheck comes from one of the programs involved doesn't mean you have to hate on someone who doesn't agree with the program you work for. Different opinions and views is what makes this world go around. It's really that simple.

And I agree this whole thing sure is amusing

JamesK 06-13-2008 06:23 PM

Hi guys!

Ditto 06-13-2008 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mailman (Post 14317365)
I just find it ammusing the only 2 sticking up for the other side are a married couple. :1orglaugh

Maybe you should read my posts again, I was not sticking up for ANYONE, I said that out of all 3 parties the model is the one in the wrong, so please dont place words in my mouth thanks, and OMG yeah we are married didnt know I cant post when I find something intresting and that I know about since I deal with talent alot.

I think the entire situation is stupid the way its being handled which I said in my other posts and I think I saw someone say "webmaster can get mad" and I agree everyone has a right to say what they feel, that means so do I no matter if I am married or single.

payd2purv 06-13-2008 07:13 PM

Hey clubyurizan.com you wanna know where your designer got his ideas from?

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k.../IJ_Nature.jpg

nickey1952 06-13-2008 07:33 PM

I do not have to hide from anyone, come to los angeles and call me and we can talk, I do not have alias's, I am easy to find so if you want to talk come on, I am ready, I will not stoop to scumbag behavior like these guys. I am not worried about the affiliates that I have walking away, they are making good money from Sweetyurizan.com. I am not worried at all about any of you. I do good work, produce great content, and call people out on their fuckups. It still is her official site and Sweetyurizan will always be until she declines getting paid. My affiliates that make me money and make her money and make themselves money are very happy with the site. I would not stoop to such crappy behavior cause this only hurts her, not me. Next time you want to interrogate someone go to Afghanistan and find Bin Laden. This is not Afghanistan.

JamesK 06-13-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14317603)
Hey clubyurizan.com you wanna know where your designer got his ideas from?

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k.../IJ_Nature.jpg

Maybe the guy sells his vector art. Seen it before on stock photo sites.

xclusive 06-13-2008 07:45 PM

I want to knock her up so I can have the official PreggoYurizan.com site. But until then rock on MediumPimpin always a pleasure to work with you guys. One of the few programs that I trust not to fuck me. Congrats on having the official Yurizan site.

Nurgle 06-13-2008 08:11 PM

well at least its easy to choose what version of her site to promote..
the professional one with MP.. or the retards that run her old one,..


hmm i think MP.. as i know i will be dealing with straight up guys, and not scumbags

payd2purv 06-13-2008 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 14317684)
Maybe the guy sells his vector art. Seen it before on stock photo sites.

I've also seen the vector on pirated graphics blogs.

I know the designer of the site did not do that vector artwork.

Just saying. :)

MediumPimpin 06-13-2008 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14317938)
I've also seen the vector on pirated graphics blogs.

I know the designer of the site did not do that vector artwork.

Just saying. :)

They come in a kit of Photstock, cost's about 1,500.00, but if you design allot like us it's worth the money.

natkejs 06-13-2008 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 14317222)
:thumbsup I completely agree.. I've got big tit traffic to send but this entire thing stinks.

Reading between the lines, here's what I think has happened... WM1 had a contract with her to have content of her on a site... I've read a few of these solo girl contracts and the vast majority aren't worth shit... I have a strong feeling that the contract does not state that the site will be her "official" site and I doubt it had any wording that she was locked in for the duration of the contract to NOT be able to open another site in her name or to shoot content for another site that bares her name.. I also suspect that it probably is in force for a couple more years but is poorly written such that they can continue to run the site with her likeness and content for that time frame.. The one thing I'm not sure about though is whether or not her 50% revenue from the site is also in force for that time frame.. WM1 seems to indicate it is, but she said it isn't.. So one of them is lieing.

I suspect there are lies on both sides (more so on her part than MPs)... As part of all this, MP should have seen her previous contract by now and yet they have not said anything about it. If they haven't, then that's just crazy.. Even IF she's lost her copy or something, she should be able to get a copy, or a lawyer should be able to easily get a copy as well. However, given MP isn't taking legal action, I suspect a lot of what WM1 has said about his contract is true. Given WM1 isn't taking legal action, I suspect my analysis of their contract is close to being accurate as well. Although from their end of things it doesn't seem to be worth the effort.

As After Shock Media said, what she says on a video tape means squat. At this point, I for one need to see some concrete proof. Hell, I'd be willing to sign a non-disclosure to review both contracts for myself so I knew which to promote.

Medium Pimpin has requested the contract in question and also offered the contact info for the Medium Pimpin photographer Mike who lives in the same city as the SweetYurizan guy and also happens to have Medium Pimpin's contract with Yurizan.

However, the response was that their contract was with their lawyers and that we had wasted their time with the discussion.

That's how far the whole contract history went..... I agree, that would be the way to go though.

After Shock Media 06-13-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 14318414)
Medium Pimpin has requested the contract in question and also offered the contact info for the Medium Pimpin photographer Mike who lives in the same city as the SweetYurizan guy and also happens to have Medium Pimpin's contract with Yurizan.

However, the response was that their contract was with their lawyers and that we had wasted their time with the discussion.

That's how far the whole contract history went..... I agree, that would be the way to go though.

Thats why you just post it. Affiliates and those holding out see that you do have a contract that backs what your saying. Other company could only post theirs or be laughed at.

natkejs 06-13-2008 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 14318423)
Thats why you just post it. Affiliates and those holding out see that you do have a contract that backs what your saying. Other company could only post theirs or be laughed at.

If I get what you're saying Medium Pimpin should post their contract publically to prove that we really do have it.

Has this ever happen before? lol ... weird situation.

Tempest 06-13-2008 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 14318414)
Medium Pimpin has requested the contract in question and also offered the contact info for the Medium Pimpin photographer Mike who lives in the same city as the SweetYurizan guy and also happens to have Medium Pimpin's contract with Yurizan.

However, the response was that their contract was with their lawyers and that we had wasted their time with the discussion.

That's how far the whole contract history went..... I agree, that would be the way to go though.

If she doesn't have a copy with her own lawyer, agent or whatever, then have Yurizan go thru a lawyer to send WM1 a C&D from using her likeness and name unless they can prove they have those rights via a copy of the contract. She has the right to get the contract from them whereas you guys don't.

natkejs 06-13-2008 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 14318576)
If she doesn't have a copy with her own lawyer, agent or whatever, then have Yurizan go thru a lawyer to send WM1 a C&D from using her likeness and name unless they can prove they have those rights via a copy of the contract. She has the right to get the contract from them whereas you guys don't.

As far as I understand, that's the thing -- Yurizan just does not care even if she has two sites by now she just wants to move on while her old webmasters won't let it go.

I think I speak for all of us when I say we just want to leave this behind us and focus on making money with the new site. Yurizan likes the new site better, the design, the style of the photography and the high level of professionalism you can expect from Medium Pimpin.

No need to bash each other and create drama over something like this.

People that promote MP in the past knows that they are on top of their stuff and got their affiliates backs, no need to worry.

Good nightr!

After Shock Media 06-14-2008 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by natkejs (Post 14318618)
People that promote MP in the past knows that they are on top of their stuff and got their affiliates backs, no need to worry.

Good nightr!

No issue against MP. Issue with model at hand who i still feel is playing both sides. If that is not true then walla we have the proper site. If it is true then MP or the other company needs to figure out the proper thing to do. Just saying she does not care does not help with the issue of trusting her and that is the main issue. If she can fuck them, then she can fuck you. If she fucks you well then what we all promote site 3,4 or whatever it happens to be.

st0ned 06-14-2008 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14317603)
Hey clubyurizan.com you wanna know where your designer got his ideas from?

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/k.../IJ_Nature.jpg

LOL how the hell did you notice that?

potter 06-14-2008 03:55 AM

i'd do her

nickey1952 06-14-2008 06:03 AM

You know what, if you want to see the contract come to los angeles and I will show it to you, also if you want to see the checks she is getting come to los angeles and I will show you the checks I am writing to her also, Posting a contract means nothing, my affiliates see the site making money and they are happy, it is not the end of the world if a few do not, we have so many and doing so well. why should the girl not be able to get checks from two people, she is probably the smartest of all of us. Here is the fact, when I told the idiot that owns MP the facts he told me to talk to his lawyer. By the way better get a better attorney if you plan on making a move on me. Stand up, show your face, don't go out in the desert and put a young girl in a room and interview her. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves for stooping so low. .. You all know how to contact me, come to los angeles . And as long as Ms Beltran accepts my checks it will be her Official Site , just like it says on the contract since 2005.


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