I smoke crack cocaine.

You know what's funny to me, everyone in this thread is calling Nick a scumbag and what not, funny thing is he has been doing this longer then most of you. You probably pushed or bought content he shot. It might have nothing to do with the situation but it shows how little some of you know about others in this business and the sheep in here who have gotten a free drink at a show will always say that MP is Top nothc ans they are stand up guys. Every one knows that that is how gfy works.

However fact is STILL that Nick had been running her site since 2005, pumped in a ton of money to get it where its at today.

The MP comes along and promises this girl 200k (allegedly) and opens another site, MP happens to buy content that Nick shot years ago (they probably didn't even know) shows how much they knew I guess.

Then when Nick calls them out for being dicks for doing this, MP starts to drum up it's affiliates and GFY Bro's to slam the initial webmaster with crap. It's ridicilous that you went as far as you did with this video, you can say what you want. You put a young girl in front of a camera just to see how far she would slam Nick.

The thing is you are both still shooting her, the newspaper thing and the video both proof that she is shooting with each of you, and as long as there is money coming she will keep doing so.

The issue is as to which is her "Official" site. Well I personally say it is her first site.
And no matter how you turn it or no matter how many little soldiers MP puts in this thread, you are low for stabbing another webmaster in the back like you did over a model. very fucking low.

And sure, you can come back with I am the only one standing up blablabla... I don't try to package the truth like you do and cloud it with a bunch of your own people to "agree" with you in the thread. Every one with a bit of common sense can read straight through it.

Also everyone who ever dealt with Nick knows how he is and deals with stuff. Maybe you should ask him for his resume, you will be surprised.

* I am very busy today, but by now I have put in way more then my 2 cents already. But like one said there is no arguing with 4 year olds.

I cant help but giggle, your so far from understanding the whole situation its funny... you talk about us and our little soldiers in this thread.. what do you think you are to nick? you're his little soldier fighting for him so Pot meet Kettle.

As for the whole hes still shooting her.. I guess you missed the fact it was a shoot for Score Magazine and she was tricked into doing the newspaper as he told her it was the NEW thing to do... lol

Honestly dude just keep going on and on and on about how much you apprently know when its clear you know nothing or at lest your wearing your blinders and just ignoring the truth. I mean honestly do you really think we are holding Yurizan at gun point in the video making her say that? If she was really still working with Nick would she be willing to say that? Why would she be burning bridges if they were not already long gone....

Think for yourself for a change use the facts presented to you not what some guy with an impressive resume says.. lol

when they he asks "you know what they're about" at the opening she says "yes" but shakes her head lol ....

FACT, you did open a site and promised a model great money, knowing another webmaster has put in years of work. You keep dancing around that.

As far as me being his soldier, not really. I point it out how I see it, and like I said before, there is only one winner in this and we all know who SHE is.

Yeah I noticed that too, she look uncomfy talking and unsure on what to say. Oooops I forgot I was told not to post but I dont take direction well like HER. :1orglaugh

The one thing I hate is girls who get into bad deals with guys who never deliver on their promises. There are so many solo girl sites that never make money because they are run by people who don't have a clue about the industry.

Medium Pimpin has a track record of being one of the very few companies that can make solo girls money. They work very fair deals with the models and deliver more than just about any other company out there.

If a girl that had potential came to me and told me she wasn't happy with her current situation and was looking for a new home I would definitely try to work a deal with the girl. I'm personally fed up of models being misled by idiots that have no clue how to run an affiliate program and truly maximize the value of the model.

I've done business with Nick and he is a good photographer. So I'm not trying to attack him in anyway. All I'm saying is that if I was MP i would have probably done the same thing.

Very well said :thumbsup

But knowing you, you would also be man enough and approach Nick and say "hey, this is what's going on. Let's do this civil. Wrong?

I doubt she has a bad deal with either parties, in this case the model is not being screwed she is trying to screw the webmasters. I think yes if she was unhappy she one should of said so and got out of what she had with Nick before entering into another deal with anyone doesnt matter if it was MP or someone else.

I would not doubt if someone else offers her a better deal then MP there will be 3 offical websites of her.

I think your right there are alot of models who get the short end of the deal, but I do not think that applies in this case.

What part dont you understand, we never pulled the rug from under their feet she was done with them :1orglaugh like I said just put your blinders back on and gallop along. It makes no sence for her to play both ends and admit on camera shes done with one side.

As for people going on about the body language in teh video or what not.. honeslty get real.. its not like she reads GFY and understand everything everyone has said, the situation was brought to her attention and we went from there with the video.

Just do yourself a favor go back and read the old posts.

We were said to have shot her a few times and put up a "fake" site but since day one she shot a video for the site saying welcome to clubyurizan.com, would she really be doign that unless this was her new site a site she was part of and partner of?.... later in that same thread nick comes in and says hes done with her anyway and we can have her.. lol but now you, he and everyone else ignores that post.

What about the fact of his proof to a major webmaster of a picture of her with a newspaper with the current date to prove that he was still shooting her and that we were the liars? Yet he made sure that picture was kept confidential, and only to find out from Yurizan hersleft it was a SCORE magazine shoot and she was tricked... and again thats ignored..

Honesly Nick has provided ZERO evidence so you saying your following the facts... BULLSHIT there are no facts provided from the other side just BLAH BLAH we are too good to fight this and we will keep making money etc...

Seems like Yurizan pretty much cleared up the debate of which site is her "official" site.

I think a lot of name calling and argument could be abated if we had a sort of timeline here...

I mean, if she has a contract stake in her first site, then they have an obligation to pay her and she'd be nuts not to take the cash, right?

But what happened that she got another site? Or why did she stop shooting for her first site in the first place? A fight with the partner? Did she do it behind his back? If so, why?

If I was the first site's webmaster I would have just not said anything, maintained the old site, rotate the content and move on with new sites and girls, whatever.

She's not a patent or copyright, she's a human being; if she stopped shooting for me and didn't tell me it was either because I was an asshole or she was a bitch; either way it's her way of saying fuck you. Me, I'm philosophical, I'd just go on my way.

Starting this stuff up just drew clear lines for affiliates who are going to want to promote a site that updates with new, exclusive material.

Basically, the first webmaster could have profitted from the uncertainty or ignorance of affiliates and surfers about which site was really official. I'm not saying it's perfectly ethical, just that it in the end he could have profitted from silence.

With time the fact that one site updates and the other rotates would have become obvious.

Now it's already obvious.

I agree with you, if she is done then she is done. And if it was really so bad as the picture is painted here then why would she shoot with him still, no matter if it's for a client or for Nick himself.

Either way, I have no stakes in this. I still think you should have approached Nick about it and dealt with it on a professional level.

Listen don't try and bullshit me.

Your designer got that vector from the same graphics blogs I surf.

Your designer than ripped the vector in it's almost exact form and used it for the design of the site.

That's all i'm saying don't argue with me.

If Nick is shooting for Score and they want Yurizan why cant she go? Business is Business.. shes in it to make money as is Nick, its just a shame these games are played and tricks are part of it.

We have never taken a model from another site and many models have asked us to take over their site while they are still with another program and we will not do it no matter who the model is simply for this reason. Yurizan was done with them for a while before we even talked to her.

It's a kit of graphics, look at any of our tours you will see all sorts of diffrent ones just like that one, and yes they are exact, lol anyone can buy them.

Just because you like to steal off the web doesn't mean other do. There are still people that look at this as a business and pay for thier assets and then write it off at the end of the year as a business expense.

That's all i'm saying don't argue with me.:1orglaugh

No it's not. Prove it. :)

LOL, you prove it!

Are you standing up for the designer to say he paid for that vector?

Prove it.

And even if the vector was paid for.. That a lame ass move to rip someone elses work like that.. from a designer's stand point thats fucking lame and not acceptable.

Umm vectors are sold to be used as part of design I bet you think stock photography is stealing as well

100 people knowing that Yurizans Official site it as http://www.mediumpimpin.com at http://www.clubyurizan.com and one douchbag that thinks they are stealing vectors.

*sigh*

Clubyurizan.com designer is a hack.

I agree that this should of never went this far, and also agree time will tell if she doesnt update for her first site and only her new one, but I think all 3 parties are in it for one thing MONEY, but things could have been done in a better manner then this.

I think her doing that video was not a good idea because other companies might frown upon that, I understand why it was done but still does not prove anything really. If she still shoots for Nick doesnt matter if its for a client that does make me think at least that she is bullshitting and in the end just hurting herself.

This is a good voice over.. Amazing how you guys made the voice lipsync so good

LOOL

So first you stick your foot in your mouth, cause you are wrong, now you say he is a hack, how many times are you trying to own yourself here?

Wow, there's been a lot of riveting drama this week.

Here ya go, maybe should read up on some shit before you dish it out,

http://www.istockphoto.com/file_sear...tboxID=3851916

These are, vector illustration's and requires vector editing software, such as Adobe Illustrator, Freehand.

We have thousand's of these, you buy what you want mix and match change colors whatever you need to make the presetation that you want.

Yup, that's what I was trying to say also. But I guess he didn't understand :)

I hate being called a theif, then he says oh well he's a hack, what a fucking loser he is, lol

I'm not new.

Show me a link to purchase that exact vector and show me a receipt. :)

You guys didn't need to argue with me.. My point was made it could have been left alone.. but if you want to dig lets dig..

You make me laugh loser I proved your wrong already make it worth my while how about a little bet, loser come on you can do it.

You have proved nothing. I am not arguing the fact vector can be bought online..

For all I know that Vector is free to the world.

I don't care if it was pirated it's art... My original point was that the designer just cut and pasted those vector elements to create the base of the site design.. didn't re-arrange them or anything.. designer code of ethics says thats a no no..

I have this bimbo on my site ... This dinosaur don't convert, so what's the dramma?

Umm, so now your mad because the broke the designer code of ethics?

Actually no i'm mad that I have my cock in your ass and you're not a chick. Go talk to your designer post some links. I don't care either way he/she cuts and pastes.

Lucky guys ... :thumbsup

Bi-Polar maybe?

:1orglaugh

As long as you have great tits MP's down with that he likes you trannys.

Uh huh.. Sad... See i'm BIG pimpin and you guys are just MEDIUM ... H O HOOO YESSS!