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ladida 06-19-2008 03:50 PM

Finally. I guess some pretty big players did indeed pull their links.

Now just for chrome to be unbanned and witness that he indeed did get the last x months check, since checks tend to be lost in mail.

macromind 06-19-2008 03:50 PM

We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!

Zuzana Designs 06-19-2008 03:53 PM

I'm very glad you guys did the right thing in the end .. I had a feeling you would .. Just wish it didn't have to go so far .. Good Job VS

_Richard_ 06-19-2008 03:53 PM

thank god this is finished

fsudirectory 06-19-2008 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 14350657)

LOL Thats Awesome

DigitalPimp 06-19-2008 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macromind (Post 14350750)
We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!

Ha, not only get them out there but make them feel the consequences of their actions. I can see a lot of interest amoung affiliates for a group where all members agree to pull links when any one of the other members is able to prove to the group that they were wronged in some way. If anyone knows of such a group or wants to start one, show me where to signup!

uno 06-19-2008 03:59 PM

This was a no brainer from the beginning. Its almost more unbelievable how long it took them to come to this resolution and considering Brad's earlier responses.

I'm glad they did the right thing, but man...

ronaldo 06-19-2008 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jact (Post 14350609)
When an organization is as large as VideoSecrets with as many people in management as well as having vested interest, it will definitely make it move slower then a mom and pop organization.

This much is definitely true, but I'm sorry, after the initial responses in the first thread this comes off as nothing more than self preservation.

IntenseJerry 06-19-2008 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 14350709)
Glad to see the situation being resolved:thumbsup

JFK, I totally agree. :thumbsup Looking forward to seeing Tim and Eddie in Vegas, you guys rock! J

kenny 06-19-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by macromind (Post 14350750)
We should start the Webmaster Syndicate and get all the scammers, shavers and the likes out there!


There has always been a webmasters sydicate. :)

Intruder 06-19-2008 04:07 PM

You need to invest in some legal advice since your moral compass is clearly lacking.

Fetish Videos 06-19-2008 04:07 PM

Positive outcome is positive outcome..congrats to chrome and kudos to videosecrets for coming around and doing the right thing.

One thing, Brad - "While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion" is pretty lame. The guy didn't quit YOU he quit the business altogether. All of your affiliates can NEVER leave the biz? And where is the love for HIM sending YOU the thousands of dollars a month biz that you got? This whole affiliate marketing concept is a two-way street. :2 cents:

Anyway, the important thing is you stepped up - which was likely very hard to do considering the public beating, so VS deserves positive comments now just like they deserved the negative ones before. Credit where due, etc..

jakethedog 06-19-2008 04:09 PM

well worded .. polite and to the point .... I truly believe this was exactly the right thing of chrome to do by originally posting it in GFY .. thats is why webmaster forums were created ..talk about what products are selling who is/was shaving ..programs that are having issues and even possibly how to help out another person we do business with ..and of course public discussion on what ever else we do in this business .. the end result will be good for both parties concerned ....Decent call VS now its settled it will be all but forgotten in a week .. and of course .. .. BEERS ON CHROME..!!! cheers ..

thehand 06-19-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IntenseJerry (Post 14350855)
JFK, I totally agree. :thumbsup Looking forward to seeing Tim and Eddie in Vegas, you guys rock! J

Thank you Jerry, I am looking forward to some time outside of the office myself:thumbsup

fuzebox 06-19-2008 04:14 PM

As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

http://widgets.alexa.com/traffic/gra...1n0TAQvrGTA%3D

CurrentlySober 06-19-2008 04:14 PM

SIG SPOT!!! Please take careful notice of my important sig... Thanks

kenny 06-19-2008 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by videosecrets_brad (Post 14350532)
Many of you disagreed with our policy and made your opinions quite clear. While we will continue to hope that sending an affiliate thousands of dollars a month warrants continued promotion we have decided to amend our Terms & Conditions in favor of a LIFETIME PAYOUT.

See this is what I don't get.

You people are the only people who seem to think this way. It's incorrect in both logic and practice.

You're sending the affiliate thousands of dollars a month because he sent you a customer that is spending thousands of dollars a month. It's a commissioned based partnership for the duration of the active customer.

Thats the whole idea behind lifetime revshare.

There should't be a "blackmail" clause forcing an affilate to continue sending traffic in order to get paid for commissions already earned.


You marketed your program to webmasters as "lifetime revshare". I've consluted with all the revshare based programs that send me money and they have all confirmed that "lifetime" means the life of the active consumer regardless of traffic that I may or may not send in the future.

With that I'm happy to see that VS has decided to honor it's side of the bargain.

kenny 06-19-2008 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14350940)
As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.


I agree.

You'd expect to see the traffic to videosecrets.com increase and the traffic to it's paysites decrease.

IntenseJerry 06-19-2008 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thehand (Post 14350911)
Thank you Jerry, I am looking forward to some time outside of the office myself:thumbsup

We will have to get a golf foursome together in LA, I think NetBilling Mitch is down, Definately in Vegas.

Nice avatar, it's rough being you...:thumbsup... J

stickyfingerz 06-19-2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenny (Post 14350987)
I agree.

You'd expect to see the traffic to videosecrets.com increase and the traffic to it's paysites decrease.

Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flirt4free.com

Serge Litehead 06-19-2008 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 14350940)
As funny as that graph is, affiliates don't link to videosecrets.com, the linkcodes are direct to their cam sites such as flirt4free.com.

http://widgets.alexa.com/traffic/gra...1n0TAQvrGTA%3D

It's true, although all joins go through billing.vs.com and there has been a decline as well according to Alexa.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-19-2008 04:28 PM

http://www.ialien.com/downvs.png

Congrats to the winners!

Socks 06-19-2008 04:30 PM

You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

kenny 06-19-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14351011)
Yup flirt4free.com's traffic has actually been way up this week lol.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/tr...flirt4free.com

We'll have to wait a few days to see if alexa reflects anything.

1) It's currently reflecting up to June 15th

2) Alexa isn't very accurate

IntenseJerry 06-19-2008 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14351024)
You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

Good job, that is impressive...:thumbsup

B O B 06-19-2008 04:36 PM

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z...happy_time.jpg

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-19-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 14351024)
You make that Alien? I'm impressed!

Yes:) On the business side I do way better, I try not to be the guy I am on the boards and try and keep everything professional:) Ask around I am not always an asshole:thumbsup

I help where I can.

marketsmart 06-19-2008 04:42 PM

i am glad vs finally did the right thing... it would have been nice to apologize to chrome for some of the remarks, but at least he got his money...

in an industry that has so much backstabbing, stealing, etc.. its nice to see people come together to do something positive for someone else..

webmasterchecks 06-19-2008 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 14350657)
http://imagehost.awms-network.com/up...6050db474f.jpg

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

you have got to be fucking kidding me

Hollywood Horwitz 06-19-2008 04:53 PM

good to see a peaceful outcome and its all been resolved.

jcsike 06-19-2008 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayBonga (Post 14350657)
http://imagehost.awms-network.com/up...6050db474f.jpg

might have had somethign to do with this outcome

that very well may have been a fatal decision for VS

candyflip 06-19-2008 05:11 PM

Way to backpeddle. That traffic drop had to hurt.

I love seeing all the ass-kissers come out now too.

After Shock Media 06-19-2008 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by payd2purv (Post 14350743)
That's awesome! :thumbsup

Oh seriously fuck you ya little flip flopping bleeding hemroid on the ass of the industry.

XPays 06-19-2008 05:47 PM

I trust Greg and Chuck and Brad and the whole team at VS.

A positive move would be to invite all of you to the mansion in December. Hopefully, I will see you there.

fris 06-19-2008 05:51 PM

nice move, but it shouldnt have come to this

dav3 06-19-2008 06:06 PM

That's really awesome of VS!

Nice!

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-19-2008 07:13 PM

Nice to see a positive resolution to all of this... :thumbsup

ADG

Pornopat 06-19-2008 07:18 PM

Congrats on doing the right thing.

Darkhorse 06-19-2008 07:23 PM

lol @ everyone who was bagging them out changing there minds so quickly..... Fact is if this guy didn't bring it to gfy he would of been told to fuck off......

They would of changed nothing and we wouldn't of been the wiser....

LeRoy 06-19-2008 07:24 PM

This is good news.


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