Poison

overrated as fuck

If you're basing your opinion of Journey on "dont' stop believin'" .... you don't know Journey. Of course they're going to seem overrated if you are one of these guys that grew up with that album having come out but have virtually no clue about their early stuff. Have you ever heard their stuff before 1980?

Give the Infinity and Evolution albums a whirl and then tell me again how "overrated" they are. :D


And did someone really mention Elton John as being overrated?
The who?
Floyd?
Stones?
Led Zep?
Rush???

There's a screw loose with some of you people, obviously.

Oasis is reeeeally overrated, so is Pearl Jam, Kiss, Coldplay, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit was overrated in its time also, thank god people came to their senses and stopped buying that crap! :1orglaugh

The stones may not have a lot of good albums except a few like Exile, Sticky Fingers, Aftermath and probably also Voodoo Lounge, but they have tons of sopngs worthy of a genius band scattered all over their discography.

AC/DC is another legendary band that I think no one mentioned

Well said Sir!

Incidentally I hate Nickelback, that singer sounds like he is a cross between someone trying to squeeze out the biggest turtlehead of a shit ever and having a cheese grater ground into your testicles. THEY FUCKING SUCK.

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I think we need to define "overrated."

To me "overrated" means: "critically acclaimed" + "not actually all that good."

Under this definition, Kiss and Poison are not "overrated" because they are not critically acclaimed or taken seriously. Maybe "undeservedly popular," but not "overrated."

The most overrated band of all time by a mile:

THE DOORS!

The Doors are hugely critically acclaimed, and they just plain sucked!

The beatles and U2

Well I am sure some clearly confuse overrated with overplayed.

And some probably mention bands names without really knowing their discography / history / having broader view about music being able to compare. Probably knowing some of the really great bands from a radio, that usually shrink everything they did into the most mainstream playable / shortened songs.

Some bands also take up to 10 replays and sometimes a couple of years till someone's able to appreciate them.

For example I am a fan of Jimi Hendrix since I was 12 years old, but the older I get, tho more I heard, the more I respect him as a songwriter and an arranger, I am surprised none of the "experts" here mentioned his name yet, he is also played and acclaimed a lot, that's all that is enough for someone to trash a genuinely great band or artist that made it big.

I totally disagree,

Firstly:

It was years 1966 - 1970 the face of the rock music was forming, there was NOTHING like they played ever around before

Secondly:

The Doors is a band full of very talented (and underrated) individuals (speaking of Delmore and Krieger) unique in their approach enough to create a very unique sound, totally uncomparable to any other band in their time, with a very charismatic singer (that's what most people imagine - Jim Morrison yet in fact it was the BAND)

Thirdly:

None of the bands that were inspired by them came even close to their psychedelic, atmospheric, very intense rock, they created something that also in fact dissapeared once the Doors were disbanded.

Fourthly:

Doors are not just the movie and sexy Morrison pic and "light my fire", but mainly their great two last albums (Morrisson Hotel, L.A Woman) L.A. woman beeing my favourite I haven't ever found many records that would be more intense than this one (Morrison drank about two bottles of whisky in those days but it actually probably helped his feeling on this record)

The Doors are a band never to be forgotten that will (hopefully) also because of Mr. Stone find its way to the younger audience.

Guns & Roses
Pearl Jam
Kiss

Linkin Park is the worst band of all time but I don't believe anyone actually believes otherwise so they are not technically "overrated."

And for the record........people who think Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin are overrated are technically brain dead.

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.. yeah it does.

WTF scanning nobody really seems to be saying much about Van Halen.... they don't ROCK.. Easily the most overrated band of all time. Above the Doors.

Why mention coldplay? That's not rock, that's gay music...

I agree critically acclaimed is how you define overrated. Kiss was simply popular because they're a live band

U2 has sold more records and had more people attend concerts than well anybody? Countless hit songs. Bono likely takes #1 douchebag of all time but how can you be overrated when you've beaten everybody everywhere that matters?

Tom Petty has been one of my all time favorites but running up to the super bowl and after it he's lost his charm for me. He seems to have cleaned up and isn't that strung out old hippy that we all loved for so long. Tom Petty WAS the willie Nelson of rock. That one guy you could always rely on to be smoking pot.

Nickelback gets way more credit than they're due BUT I'll admit I have every Nickelback song in my collection simply because if you just want background music and WANT it to blend in and sound the same they're great... it all does sound pretty much the same but it fuckin WORKS... not really a single truly bad track which hell I even have all of the Aerosmith, stones, beatles etc and I never have to skip a nickelback song... have to skip plenty of the others.


UNDER rated?
John Fogerty... lovin him lately after shelving him for too long.

Obviously, a bunch of wankers that don't like real music. Produce some, then you can bash it. Stupid fucks.

Ill go with Nickelback as my No.1 overated act, simply because many of their tracks are so similar and they lack any kind of creativity.

I wouldnt agree with putting U2, The Who, P Floyd, Led Zep etc anywhere near that category - like them or not they have shown creativity way beyond most of todays bands.

Id hate for this question to be turned on the porn industry.....in theory we can create almost anything we want, but can we really say that we've had more than a few hits ourselves over 30 years.

Korn is so fucking overrated

Pearl Jam.. I dunno why but they have always annoyed me.

Nirvana.

To me, overrated means they were hyped and touted to a certain degree, but never quite lived up to all the hype and hoopla.

I'm sorry, but the Doors don't fit that bill, because they, like most of the bands mentioned so far in this thread, not only lived up to the hype and expectations but surpassed them by a mile.


Quite frankly as I see it, the only thing determining whether a band is overrated or not in this thread is simply the fact that the person naming them simply doesn't like them. You for instance obviously don't like the Doors' music, thus to you they are "overrated".

I just don't measure it that way.

Plenty of bands out there I don't particularly care for, but I wouldn't go saying they're all overrated simply because I personally don't like them. I mentioned Oasis in this thread, for example. Fact is I actually like a few of their songs... but as an overall act and in looking at their career accomplishments I don't see where they've lived up to the hype. As I said, they touted themselves as being the next Beatles, and I'm sorry to the Oasis lovers but no way in hell did they ever come close to living up to that hype, nor the hype they've gotten for that matter.


People, just because you don't like a band or their music, doesn't mean that band is overrated.

It means you don't like them.

Ted Nugent get my vote as the most overrated.

a large portion of todays emo punk fucking shit is highly overated!

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Nirvana wasn't overrated.. they changed the scope of music for my generation.

I gotta laugh at people who place icons IE: Rush,Stones etc.if any band can go 20 to 30 years, they obviously did something right.

Coldplay overrated? Who can write songs as good as "The Scientist," "Clocks" and "Fix You" nowadays? No one. I think they are in a league of their own. All these piano-based bands like Keane all cropped up AFTER Coldplay. Those three songs I listed are masterpieces and have a songwriting quality to them you just don't hear very often. They are not overrated. I think they get what is due to them. I didn't think anyone here even listened to Coldplay.

I didn't like them at first - all the hype around them when I was a high school kid - but when I listened to their songs a few years later, have to say, they got me.

In The End, Crawling, Numb, Breaking The Habit, Leave Out All The Rest - these are classics, I think.

Some great bands listed here. Fuck overrated, just because you can't appreciate their music doesn't mean it's overrated.

Wow. CDSmith was right. Some of you really do have loose screws.

I like Nirvana and Nevermind is a great album but it's overblown statements like that that make them overrated. Mudhoney had more to do with "changing the scope of music" than Nirvana did. I'm from Seattle and watched it all happen.

Um, and they were. Definitely Maybe is the greatest album since SGT Peppers lonely heart club band, and they produced a follow up which was almost even better.

The most overrated band has to be Coldplay

Um no, they weren't. Not even close, not even in the same universe. Listen to any decent classic rock radio station, Oasis barely gets a mention. The Beatles on the other hand, always pure legendary status.

Christ it's mindbogglingly retarded to even be talking about these two bands in the same paragraph.



Coldplay has only just begun, career wise. I can give them a few more years to see what they come up with.

"Americans want grungy people, stabbing themselves in the head on stage. They get a bright bunch like us, with deodorant on, they don't get it."

- Liam Gallagher from Oasis

Of course they won't get played on classic rock radio station, because they are not fucking classic rock, they are still around and only formed in the early 90's.

In 1997 Definitely Maybe was named the 14th greatest album of all time in a 'Music of the Millennium' poll conducted by HMV, Channel 4, The Guardian and Classic FM. In 2005 Channel 4's '100 Greatest Albums' countdown placed the album at number 6. In 2006, NME placed the album third in a list of the greatest British albums ever, behind The Stone Roses and The Smiths' The Queen Is Dead. In a recent British poll, run by NME and the book of British Hit Singles and Albums, Definitely Maybe was voted the best album of all time with The Beatles' Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band finishing second and Revolver third. Q magazine readers placed it at five on their greatest albums of all time list in 2006 and in that same year NME hailed it as the greatest album of all time. In a 2008 poll by Q and HMV in 2008, Definitely Maybe was ranked first on a list of the greatest British album of all time.

You kids and your goofy silly notions. :D

Oasis hasn't even scratched the surface of what the Beatles are, and were. Period.

And they never will be.

Mudhoney didn't ever make it big on a national scale or worldwide for that matter. Nirvana did hence the reason they changed to scope of music.

Just like there were guys singing Rock & Roll before Elvis but he is the one who hit big and changed things.

Mudhoney spearheaded the scene that made Nirvana possible. How exactly did Nirvana change the scope of music? Cobain's songwriting was highly derivative of the Beatles and he played the soft verse/loud chorus thing to death. They are legends because Cobain blew his brains out at the top of his game. It was a good career move.

I think you are missing the forest because you don't see the trees. No one is arguing that mudhoney wasn't first. The point is Mudhoney didn't make it on a national level. Nirvana is what opened up the Seattle scene for the world to see and brought what was coined grunge rock to the forefront at that time.

No one out side Seattle would have heard of Mudhoney on a remotely large scale if it wasn't for Nirvana bringing the light to the seattle scene. MudHoney sure didn't bring that light to it, so it doesn't matter if they were first.

It's like saying Elvis made no impact and was overrated because Hank Williams, Roy Brown and Jimmy Preston sang Rock & Roll before he did. Elvis did essentially the same thing as Nirvana he brought it to the general public which greatly impacted that music scene.

I'm not denying their influence, just saying they're overrated and did not "change music." I think we're arguing different points. Influence doesn't necessarily mean a band is great. Nirvana wasn't the band that brought the Seattle scene to a national level, it was a collective effort and would have happened without Nirvana.

I think if Billy Corrigan or Eddy Vedder had committed suicide the Smashing Pumpkins or Pearl Jam would be the legendary 90's band. Both of them are better songwriters IMO

You know how I know you're gay?


You listen to coldplay...

This is just people who personally dont like the band and dont get their music so they feel the need to say idiotic stuff stuff like that. I think its some kind of hate against all the people who do get the music. They somehow feel theyre missing something but are too simple to stupid to understand what. So they get angry.

These are the same people who turn up the volume if 50cent is on the radio.

So that makes them overrated?

There is this Dutch tv channel for the kids, they play all these teenybopper music. They have all stuff where you can rate songs through text messages. You can rate 1 to 10 and when you look at those ratings they either rate it 1 or 10. The kid likes the song or hates the song, theres nothing inbetween. A kid can not look further than i like them or not. They cant think like well i dont like them but its not a bad song really, just not for me. Anyway, thats how kids are...and most of the idiots on gfy.

Coldplay just begun? As a band they've been around since 1997, and as a recording artist since 2000. "Yellow" their first single is now eight years old! Hard to believe. Bands like The Police, The Animals and The Beatles had already disbanded by this time in their career. And look at them, they're all legendary. How many albums does it qualify for a band to made a mark? Jimi Hendrix only recorded three studio albums. He's forever legendary. Harper Lee only wrote one book. And she's forever legendary for it too.

The first time I saw the video for One Step Closer I definitely thought they would be a one hit wonder band ...I was quite wrong heh.

My favorite song by them is probably My December, but I like almost all their tracks and don't think they are overrated. We'll see in a few more albums though if they can keep the songs from becoming rehashed/repetitive.

This is a good definition but it also requires that people know rock history. People who think Oasis are somehow comparable to the Beatles are clearly unaware of what the Beatles did during the 50's and 60's and what the music scene was like at that time. This is why there is so much confusion in this thread. The Beatles were before my time, but I've read enough about them and watched enough documentaries to understand their impact. I also happen to really enjoy their music but that is just personal taste. The cultural influence of the Beatles is virtually undeniable, but somebody who is unfamiliar with history won't understand this.

If Nirvana didn't exist to break Seattle onto the national stage, we may never have heard about the Smashing Pumpkins or Pearl Jam and their lead singers.

People only know about Mother Love Bone because its members created new bands like Pearl Jam after the lead singer, Andrew Wood, died of a heroine overdose. Andrew Wood is an unknown name. If Nirvana broke into the mainstream earlier and people jumped on the Mother Love Bone recordings, Andrew Wood might be a household name today.

But I agree that if Vedder or Corrigan committed suicide in the 90's after they reached their fame, they would be heralded as the legends and not Nirvana/Cobain even with Cobain's suicide.

Yeah I pretty much touched this recently, I agree the cult of Nirvana is definitely closely binded with Cobain's faith.

They were a band that definitely had a huge / massive impact on the scene of the first half of the 90's and what was played in the radio, but the feel of a prodigy that was ahead of their time and couldn't realize its potential definitely makes its mark.

In many cases it's totally justified (Jeff Buckley, Jaco Pastorius, Jimi Hendrix, John Coltrane, Robert Johnson for example) but in many mainstream well known cases it's clearly resonating with the maniacal / extreme type of fans or psychically unbalanced teenagers that are in need of fulfilling their existence idolizing ONE band or one artist, where their adoration in many times reaches extreme levels.

I would say they were way under-rated..I still listen to them because they werent played to death

Most bands today suck.. most are hype and very little talent.

8-10 years is nothing.

so yes, they've just begun. If they have any longevity they'll have many years to come out with more stuff.

Nobody I know even heard of them before 2 years ago. They are NEW on the scene, still.

Haha, first band that popped into my head as soon as I saw the thread title.