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baddog 06-20-2008 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Zango (Post 14354150)
Guns and Roses
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Rush

Wow. My thoughts exactly, except that anyone that thinks the Stones are overrated and not in the same category as the Beatles, obviously knows nothing about rock's history.

2012 06-20-2008 02:03 PM


mvee 06-20-2008 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by kane (Post 14354679)
I have a secondary question for this thread. I've read a lot of responses that say something like, "They put out a couple of great records then nothing since." Or "good earlier on, but suck now." So I ask:" Can you forgive the sins of the present and still celebrate the past?" What I mean is this. If a band makes 1 or 2 amazing records then doesn't do much for years and years, does it diminish the brilliance of those 1 or 2 records. That is 1 or 2 records that most bands would never put out.

Most bands have about a 3-6 year period where they do their best work. There are very few acts ever that maintain their genius through all of their career. If they put out a couple of legendary albums during that high point, then the rest of their career only put out mediocre stuff does it diminish the quality of those other great records?

Here is an example. Guns n Roses puts out Appetite for Destruction. In my opinion it is one of the all time greatest rock records ever made. After that they were never really the same. Lies Lies Lies has a few good moments, but not many. The same is with the Use Your Illusion discs (actually Slash even says if you listen to the Illusion discs you will hear the sound of a band breaking up.) Then they had the punk cover album which kind of sucked and supposedly a Axl is putting out a new album soon (they have been saying that for a decade now) and it is most likely going to blow. So do all of these lackluster followups make Appetite any less of a masterpiece?

Your point is well made. A bands shelf life is relevant to how long they can sustain whatever crazy lifestyle they are living and whatever drug is fueling said lifestyle. That lifestyle directly impacts the quality of the songs they are writing. Exile on Main Street would be a great example of genius coming through through the drug induced vision of people at their creative peek. Which exactly why the Stones, Dylan and all the other suck today. They can't take drugs like that anymore. It take allot of energy to conjure that shit up and covert it into something good. I can totally appreciate a band for whatever great works they put out but that doesn't mean I won't ever forget that Van Halen thought Sammy Hager was better choice as a singer than David Lee Roth and put out a bunch of crappy songs.

SykkBoy 06-20-2008 02:32 PM

Coldplay, Linkin Park, NickelBack

J. Falcon 06-20-2008 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Truth Hurts (Post 14354020)
pink floyd.. the who.. red hot chilli peppers...

Pink Floyd overrated? The band may not be for everyone, but they have put out classic after classic.

J. Falcon 06-20-2008 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 14354257)
compared to the music they make these days ... most of these bands that are here listed are gods

:2 cents::2 cents:

tyler (durden) 06-20-2008 02:48 PM

Wow, I didn't think this thread would get this type of response. Anyway some additional thoughts:

I should have included Journey as a tie with Kiss as the #1 most overrated band. I can't fucking stand Journey in the least bit, to the point where I have walked out of several bars when "Don't Stop Believing" comes on. Not to mention people go on and on about how epic they were.

Also, in terms of being overrated, I didn't include any contemporary bands because they haven't been talked about being great for decades; I guess should have titled the thread Most Overrated Rock Bands with some sort of Legendary Status.

Anyway, I also agree that U2 should be up there. They are like the Stones to me, really good but not genius great.

CUTTER 06-20-2008 03:05 PM

Art is most definitely NOT subjective.

You can't argue otherwise!


You have to have perspective, intelligence, knowledge and experience.

Most people looking back have no clue.

Smart people get it. They got it back then. They get it now. They'll get it in the future.


The dumber ones just fumble their way through with a label maker trying to say what is what and never really appreciate art.

kane 06-20-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mvee (Post 14354824)
Your point is well made. A bands shelf life is relevant to how long they can sustain whatever crazy lifestyle they are living and whatever drug is fueling said lifestyle. That lifestyle directly impacts the quality of the songs they are writing. Exile on Main Street would be a great example of genius coming through through the drug induced vision of people at their creative peek. Which exactly why the Stones, Dylan and all the other suck today. They can't take drugs like that anymore. It take allot of energy to conjure that shit up and covert it into something good. I can totally appreciate a band for whatever great works they put out but that doesn't mean I won't ever forget that Van Halen thought Sammy Hager was better choice as a singer than David Lee Roth and put out a bunch of crappy songs.

I think drugs and booze and the lifestyle has something to do with it, but I think a lot of it is just simple artistic shelf life. Most great artist, be they painters, writers, musicians or whoever have a limited number of great works in them. The drugs and booze might have helped them bring that out, but I think a lot of people like that are kind of like an explosion. They blow up, are hot as fire then burn out. It is very rare that any artist does great things again and again over decades.

That said I think the Dylan has recently put out some amazing records. His newest stuff is raw and emotional and I think it comes from him opening up with getting older and understanding that he is not perfect.

CDSmith 06-20-2008 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tranza (Post 14354502)
Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, The Doors...

None of which are overrated.

Try again, bot.

Manowar 06-20-2008 03:33 PM

Poison

overrated as fuck

CDSmith 06-20-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler (durden) (Post 14355081)
Wow, I didn't think this thread would get this type of response. Anyway some additional thoughts:

I should have included Journey as a tie with Kiss as the #1 most overrated band. I can't fucking stand Journey in the least bit, to the point where I have walked out of several bars when "Don't Stop Believing" comes on. Not to mention people go on and on about how epic they were.

Also, in terms of being overrated, I didn't include any contemporary bands because they haven't been talked about being great for decades; I guess should have titled the thread Most Overrated Rock Bands with some sort of Legendary Status.

Anyway, I also agree that U2 should be up there. They are like the Stones to me, really good but not genius great.

If you're basing your opinion of Journey on "dont' stop believin'" .... you don't know Journey. Of course they're going to seem overrated if you are one of these guys that grew up with that album having come out but have virtually no clue about their early stuff. Have you ever heard their stuff before 1980?

Give the Infinity and Evolution albums a whirl and then tell me again how "overrated" they are. :D


And did someone really mention Elton John as being overrated?
The who?
Floyd?
Stones?
Led Zep?
Rush???

There's a screw loose with some of you people, obviously.

chelo - adultcopywriters 06-20-2008 04:10 PM

Oasis is reeeeally overrated, so is Pearl Jam, Kiss, Coldplay, Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit was overrated in its time also, thank god people came to their senses and stopped buying that crap! :1orglaugh

The stones may not have a lot of good albums except a few like Exile, Sticky Fingers, Aftermath and probably also Voodoo Lounge, but they have tons of sopngs worthy of a genius band scattered all over their discography.

AC/DC is another legendary band that I think no one mentioned

Lee 06-20-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14354498)
Do you even realize WHO were Led Zeppelin?

One well known guitarist who was a legend in his very young age, one very proffesional musician and arranger and two guys from the worst part of Birmingham that had nothing but soon became legends of their own.

Do you even realize Led Zeppelin were nobodies when they started in UK, that they refused TV play they refused talk to media for a decent while and their ONLY strategy was to play the hell on the stage, to crush all the bands they headlined to get their audience?

Do you realize it wasn't until they hit America that they started to rezonate with the audience and received somewhat a cult following among the "undisciplined and bad" youth, that their concerts started to fill by word of mouth more than anything else? and that they were hated and ignored by the music press of its time?

Is that the way how to become overrated? Of course there is a bunch of people who onlu know "Starway to heaven" but shouldn't they? if it's the most requested song on the radio of all time?

Jeez when I saw Page with Plant after all these years live on their tour and I was getting shivers and my heart stopped beating time from time, is that what the overrated bands do?

Those guys were, are and always will be legends, and they deserve it, I don't see any other view applicable.

Well said Sir!

Incidentally I hate Nickelback, that singer sounds like he is a cross between someone trying to squeeze out the biggest turtlehead of a shit ever and having a cheese grater ground into your testicles. THEY FUCKING SUCK.

BruceM 06-20-2008 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 14354968)
Pink Floyd overrated? The band may not be for everyone, but they have put out classic after classic.

:thumbsup

neewwman 06-20-2008 05:09 PM

I think we need to define "overrated."

To me "overrated" means: "critically acclaimed" + "not actually all that good."

Under this definition, Kiss and Poison are not "overrated" because they are not critically acclaimed or taken seriously. Maybe "undeservedly popular," but not "overrated."

The most overrated band of all time by a mile:

THE DOORS!

The Doors are hugely critically acclaimed, and they just plain sucked!

sysk 06-20-2008 05:10 PM

The beatles and U2

CarlosTheGaucho 06-20-2008 05:38 PM

Well I am sure some clearly confuse overrated with overplayed.

And some probably mention bands names without really knowing their discography / history / having broader view about music being able to compare. Probably knowing some of the really great bands from a radio, that usually shrink everything they did into the most mainstream playable / shortened songs.

Some bands also take up to 10 replays and sometimes a couple of years till someone's able to appreciate them.

For example I am a fan of Jimi Hendrix since I was 12 years old, but the older I get, tho more I heard, the more I respect him as a songwriter and an arranger, I am surprised none of the "experts" here mentioned his name yet, he is also played and acclaimed a lot, that's all that is enough for someone to trash a genuinely great band or artist that made it big.

CarlosTheGaucho 06-20-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by neewwman (Post 14355582)
The most overrated band of all time by a mile:

THE DOORS!

The Doors are hugely critically acclaimed, and they just plain sucked!



I totally disagree,

Firstly:

It was years 1966 - 1970 the face of the rock music was forming, there was NOTHING like they played ever around before

Secondly:

The Doors is a band full of very talented (and underrated) individuals (speaking of Delmore and Krieger) unique in their approach enough to create a very unique sound, totally uncomparable to any other band in their time, with a very charismatic singer (that's what most people imagine - Jim Morrison yet in fact it was the BAND)

Thirdly:

None of the bands that were inspired by them came even close to their psychedelic, atmospheric, very intense rock, they created something that also in fact dissapeared once the Doors were disbanded.

Fourthly:

Doors are not just the movie and sexy Morrison pic and "light my fire", but mainly their great two last albums (Morrisson Hotel, L.A Woman) L.A. woman beeing my favourite I haven't ever found many records that would be more intense than this one (Morrison drank about two bottles of whisky in those days but it actually probably helped his feeling on this record)

The Doors are a band never to be forgotten that will (hopefully) also because of Mr. Stone find its way to the younger audience.

cykoe6 06-20-2008 06:01 PM

Guns & Roses
Pearl Jam
Kiss

Linkin Park is the worst band of all time but I don't believe anyone actually believes otherwise so they are not technically "overrated."

And for the record........people who think Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin are overrated are technically brain dead.

2012 06-20-2008 06:02 PM

evereeeeeeee rose has its thawwwwwwn ...


.. yeah it does.

farkedup 06-20-2008 06:13 PM

WTF scanning nobody really seems to be saying much about Van Halen.... they don't ROCK.. Easily the most overrated band of all time. Above the Doors.

Why mention coldplay? That's not rock, that's gay music...

I agree critically acclaimed is how you define overrated. Kiss was simply popular because they're a live band

U2 has sold more records and had more people attend concerts than well anybody? Countless hit songs. Bono likely takes #1 douchebag of all time but how can you be overrated when you've beaten everybody everywhere that matters?

Tom Petty has been one of my all time favorites but running up to the super bowl and after it he's lost his charm for me. He seems to have cleaned up and isn't that strung out old hippy that we all loved for so long. Tom Petty WAS the willie Nelson of rock. That one guy you could always rely on to be smoking pot.

Nickelback gets way more credit than they're due BUT I'll admit I have every Nickelback song in my collection simply because if you just want background music and WANT it to blend in and sound the same they're great... it all does sound pretty much the same but it fuckin WORKS... not really a single truly bad track which hell I even have all of the Aerosmith, stones, beatles etc and I never have to skip a nickelback song... have to skip plenty of the others.


UNDER rated?
John Fogerty... lovin him lately after shelving him for too long.

CamDoughCommando 06-20-2008 06:22 PM

Obviously, a bunch of wankers that don't like real music. Produce some, then you can bash it. Stupid fucks.

ultimatebbwdotcom 06-20-2008 06:30 PM

Ill go with Nickelback as my No.1 overated act, simply because many of their tracks are so similar and they lack any kind of creativity.

I wouldnt agree with putting U2, The Who, P Floyd, Led Zep etc anywhere near that category - like them or not they have shown creativity way beyond most of todays bands.

Id hate for this question to be turned on the porn industry.....in theory we can create almost anything we want, but can we really say that we've had more than a few hits ourselves over 30 years.

nikki99 06-20-2008 06:59 PM

Korn is so fucking overrated

crockett 06-20-2008 07:09 PM

Pearl Jam.. I dunno why but they have always annoyed me.

escorpio 06-20-2008 07:15 PM

Nirvana.

CDSmith 06-20-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by neewwman (Post 14355582)
I think we need to define "overrated."

To me "overrated" means: "critically acclaimed" + "not actually all that good."

To me, overrated means they were hyped and touted to a certain degree, but never quite lived up to all the hype and hoopla.

I'm sorry, but the Doors don't fit that bill, because they, like most of the bands mentioned so far in this thread, not only lived up to the hype and expectations but surpassed them by a mile.


Quite frankly as I see it, the only thing determining whether a band is overrated or not in this thread is simply the fact that the person naming them simply doesn't like them. You for instance obviously don't like the Doors' music, thus to you they are "overrated".

I just don't measure it that way.

Plenty of bands out there I don't particularly care for, but I wouldn't go saying they're all overrated simply because I personally don't like them. I mentioned Oasis in this thread, for example. Fact is I actually like a few of their songs... but as an overall act and in looking at their career accomplishments I don't see where they've lived up to the hype. As I said, they touted themselves as being the next Beatles, and I'm sorry to the Oasis lovers but no way in hell did they ever come close to living up to that hype, nor the hype they've gotten for that matter.


People, just because you don't like a band or their music, doesn't mean that band is overrated.

It means you don't like them.

Redrob 06-20-2008 07:30 PM

Ted Nugent get my vote as the most overrated.

Robatolla 06-20-2008 09:01 PM

a large portion of todays emo punk fucking shit is highly overated!

Nicky 06-20-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 14354542)
Metallica

:1orglaugh



:helpme

crockett 06-20-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by escorpio (Post 14355921)
Nirvana.

Nirvana wasn't overrated.. they changed the scope of music for my generation.

Spunky 06-20-2008 10:00 PM

I gotta laugh at people who place icons IE: Rush,Stones etc.if any band can go 20 to 30 years, they obviously did something right.

Walrus 06-21-2008 12:26 AM

Coldplay overrated? Who can write songs as good as "The Scientist," "Clocks" and "Fix You" nowadays? No one. I think they are in a league of their own. All these piano-based bands like Keane all cropped up AFTER Coldplay. Those three songs I listed are masterpieces and have a songwriting quality to them you just don't hear very often. They are not overrated. I think they get what is due to them. I didn't think anyone here even listened to Coldplay.

needlive 06-21-2008 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by CarlosTheGaucho (Post 14354221)

What band would win my tip for the lamest super popular act?

Linkin Park

http://www.mp3indirbedava.com/wp-con..._park_01_b.jpg

Once I saw that video when the dude is screaming with his semi mutating semi pubescent voice of urgency and there are these shots how the world suffers, that made my choice clear - I would actually recommend them to move their equipment and recording fascilities to the Neverland, maybe if they put together their minds with Michael Jackson they'll find a way how to finally save the world.

I didn't like them at first - all the hype around them when I was a high school kid - but when I listened to their songs a few years later, have to say, they got me.

In The End, Crawling, Numb, Breaking The Habit, Leave Out All The Rest - these are classics, I think.

JamesK 06-21-2008 01:09 AM

Some great bands listed here. Fuck overrated, just because you can't appreciate their music doesn't mean it's overrated.

Walrus 06-21-2008 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by neewwman (Post 14355582)
I think we need to define "overrated."

To me "overrated" means: "critically acclaimed" + "not actually all that good."

Under this definition, Kiss and Poison are not "overrated" because they are not critically acclaimed or taken seriously. Maybe "undeservedly popular," but not "overrated."

The most overrated band of all time by a mile:

THE DOORS!

The Doors are hugely critically acclaimed, and they just plain sucked!

Wow. CDSmith was right. Some of you really do have loose screws.

escorpio 06-21-2008 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 14356239)
Nirvana wasn't overrated.. they changed the scope of music for my generation.

I like Nirvana and Nevermind is a great album but it's overblown statements like that that make them overrated. Mudhoney had more to do with "changing the scope of music" than Nirvana did. I'm from Seattle and watched it all happen.

buzzy 06-21-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 14354029)
Overrated? Got to be Oasis. Touted themselves as "the next Beatles" lol

Um, and they were. Definitely Maybe is the greatest album since SGT Peppers lonely heart club band, and they produced a follow up which was almost even better.

The most overrated band has to be Coldplay

buzzy 06-21-2008 10:37 AM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rSEWR45zN3s


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