Heres a thought. What is this fuckhead is somehow tied in with the "terrorists" or Al Queda, and is merely creating a diversion to get the US concentrating on one thing, whilst something MAJOR is fixing to happen elsewhere?

Just a thought I was pondering while talking with my co-workers.

:321GFY :ak47: *snipa*

if it is being done by a terrorist group, it could be to strike fear into americans while they plan something big. also to try and shift resources away from what those terrorist groups are planning towards trying to catch the killer. i don't think a terrorist group is behind these shootings, but its a possibility.

Aggression is passion.

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In this case I think that for many reasons it is applicable. Let's say the fucker was going around shooting people's beloved pet dogs for example. Defenseless puppies, long-time family pets etc. Unless you're a dog owner I suppose this might not make sense, it would be easy to say "who gives a fuck" right?

But to the dog owner who just lost his best friend to some anonymous asshole with a rifle, the word "coward" would be among the first to be uttered I'm sure.


What if it was your wife that got killed? Or your son or daughter? Does your wife, son or daughter carry a gun? Do they regularly pose a threat to anyone? No? Then the fucker doing the shooting is, in a sense, a coward.

To apply the word "coward" to the "sniper" simply because one does not like his/her methods and/or targets is not useful and is meaningless.

puppies are CARNOVOURS dumbass - that's INSTINCT behavior training them for the kill.

Humans are trained to either be violent or not. TV plays a HUGE part in that training in children. Anyone with any real experience in the educational system knows that.

Have you ever tried arguing a point that you don't necessarily believe in? It's challenging yet somewhat entertaining at the same time. :winkwink:

Revenge would be the word I would use, and I'd be planning things like how to kill the fucker who did that to my dog.

You are correct. There have been many studies that show even the old time cartoons with Bugs, Daffy, Slyvester, etc. raise the violence level of children.

hehe :glugglug

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Damn but you're a likeable sort of fucker. :thumbsup

Ya bullshit. There have also been TONS of studies and professional opinions that it does not. I believe real violent tendencies are taught and inherited in children, and are a matter of consious choice in adults.

if you had experience around children you'd think otherwise. go ask some teachers.

Actually you just agreed, "violent tendencies are taught".

violence is part of survival.

cells overtake other cells.

its a cycle.

rinse and repeat.

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CDSmith can be sooo fuckin dumb sometimes it hurts..........

Here's a great comic that supports this hypothesis.

http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php...02-10-15&res=l

Cheers,
Backov

In addition there are schools of thought that believe no one truly makes a "consious choice". It is believed that the sub-consious (the id) is the true controller of concious choice and no one is aware of their sub-concious, so one only thinks that he/she is making a consious choice. Very little in life is black or white. There are many shades of grey.

The fact is, you really have no clue what experience I have in anything, do you.

no.



Fact is, I grew up watching the Road Runner --- do you see me throwing people off of cliffs?
I used to be a huge wrestling fan as a kid too.... the Baron, the Crusher, Whahoo McDaniel, Larry the Ax, Superstar Billy Graham, etc etc..... do you see me drop-kicking people on the street?

Kids are actually able to distinguish between fantasy and reality much easier than adults in some cases. They slip into a role-playing mode much more comfortably than most adults, and they get quite distressed when confronted with real violence.

And kids that have solid role-models for parents, well, do I really need to explain this point? Taking away all forms of fantasy and fantasy violence is not going to solve the issue of violence. Anyone who thinks it will is just foolish.

Hope no one minds if I interject my two cents here...

I pulled my son out of public school because of the "violence" you talk about. My son, however, is not violent. I'm relatively sure he watches the same crap on TV and plays the same video games, but I have made a point of teaching him the difference between anything he sees on the TV screen and real life. I have taught him that defending yourself is just about the only acceptable form of "violence" allowed. A lot of parents don't take the time and don't even understand why they should have to. THERE lies your problem.

Maybe the sniper's mommy didn't teach him the difference. Or maybe he's pissed off at his ex-wife. Or maybe he got reamed while doing time in the local jail. Or maybe he really is a member of some terrorist group creating a diversion or just doing his thing. Who knows and who cares? He's killing innocent victims on the street, and that's infinitely more important. I don't believe he is a coward, however. Clever, cunning, organized, and careful, yes. But no coward would have balls enough to do what this guy is doing. A coward wouldn't stop to consider that the very nature of his actions (killing innocents) is far more frightening than if his targets were politicians or military personnel. The mere randomness of the shootings indicates to me this is a very carefully thought out plan by someone who knows exactly how to strike fear into the hearts of millions. The only thing more terrifying than an insane shooter is one who is not insane but wants everyone to think he is.

Just food for thought.

go talk to a teacher before you start talking out of your ass.

And you say <i>MY</i> argument is useless and meaningless???

Huh?

I've BEEN in a teaching role before. I've been around kids all my life, was a "big brother" volunteer for many years too, and I've worked on the pediatric ward of the St. B. Hospital, and worked with troubled kids in the psych ward for years.

What experience do you have?




Before saying shit like "talking out of my ass" maybe you best ask me where I draw my experience from. By saying such shit to me you're behaving like a shithead.

Sorry theking... I thought you were sentient.
Here, I'll quote your previous post where you said my argument
and point was useless and meaningless......
Understand now?

By raising an obscure unproven theory that "no one truly makes any consious decisions...." isn't useless and meaningless? Okay.

*shrug*

i eat meat....so does everyone else i know except some weird girls that are into veggies ;) pretty sure humans as a species were not always picking out our meat packaged under plastic wrap......at one time we had to hunt...that would make us what.....carnivores!...dumass and ya...what are those canine teeth you got in your mouth for? chewing meat perhaps?

p.s. dogs dont hunt anymore either...doest mean they dont have the instincts buried inside them somewhere.

*shrug*??? You're a damn PACIFIST! That's it, it's go time. Outside right now.


No poking in the eyes, no kicking of the nads. Ready?

No. That is no, it isn't useless and meaningless. The sub-concious is being formed from the moment of birth on. It is formed by the senses as well as other environmental influences. This includes viewing violence by children even in cartoons. This learned violence becomes part of the subconcious and is carried into adulthood and is often acted out in various, minor to major, forms by adults in what some think is a consious choice. The post was made in responce to you saying that adults make concious decisions. I should have clarified. By the way, what is "proven" theory? Those that you ascribe to?

Nope, it's just more copping out on the part of whomever adopts this gibberish. I firmly believe that people need to take responsibility for their actions, and take control of their own minds. For example, it literally drives me crazy when I hear someone say "that's the way I am, I can't help it".... absolute bull kakka. If people would only realize that making changes to the way they are is a decision away, a lot of lives would be much better. Like, don't tell me that you "gotta be a mouthy prick because that's they way you are" or "that's the way you was raised" because I'll call anyone one that kind of weakness.

All people have to do is stop and think before they act. Decipher out what is the right thing to do, and choose to do it. The problem is twofold though: People are weak and would rather blame their parents and their upbringing for their weaknesses, and also poeple like you who enable them to do so by spewing out a lot of gunk that supports their little comfort zones.

I simply couldn't disagree more.

scum sucking depravity debauched!
anal fuck-fest, thrill olympics
savage scourge supply and sanctify
so what? so what?

you said it!
sedatives supplied become laxatives
my eyes shit out lies
i only kill to know i'm alive
so what? so what?

so what, it's your problem to learn to live with
destroy us, or make us saints
we don't care, it's not our fault that we were born too late
a screaming headache on the brow of the state
killing time is appropriate
to make a mess and fuck all the rest, we say, we say
so what? so what?

now i know what is right
i'll kill them all if i like
i'm a time bomb inside
no one listens to reason,
it's too late and i'm ready to fight!
so what? now i'm ready to fight!

I only kill to know Im alive.

<i>killing time is appropriate
to make a mess and fuck all the rest, we say, we say
so what? so what?</i>

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It is a given that adults not only should take responsibility for their actions, but by law they are required to take resonsibility for their actions. I am not arguing that. You are attempting to categorize and simplify a human beings actions and/or reactions. You are trying to apply "black and white" when there are many shades of grey. An adult that makes "consious decisions" is influenced by everything that he/she has experienced from the moment of birth, even though he/she is not consious of that hidden influence. A very simple exampe of this is, what is your favorite color? Then ask yourself why this is your favorite color and not some other color? Please feel free to disagree, that is your "concious choice", er maybe?

Terrorists are cowards...

Would they take on Delta Force or the SAS?

no

They kill innocent people instead...

It really makes me angry that now they attack tourists, just for damaging the economy of Indonesia. These people were just dancing and having fun...

They would be stupid to take on a force that they cannot defeat, so does not being stupid make them cowards?

It's the fact that he/she/they are shooting unarmed innocent civilians, family members, travelers, kids, and from hundreds of yards away, from a *safe* anonymous position, after which they can flee to wherever hole they came out of is why I feel the term "coward" applies. "Coward" has many applications, not just the general image of someone running away from a bully. In wartime, soldiers that refused or were too scared to shoot back at the enemy were often times shot for cowardice.... But when others are threatening your country, homeland, and basic freedoms, shooting back becomes a must.

This sniper asshole is a different type of coward. No less pathetic, but still a coward none-the-less. Agree or disagree, think what you want, but I know that on this I am right. Cowardess can be a traight inside someone's heart and soul, and often plays out or comes to light through one's own actions.




And sleazy mentioned something about the terrorists that destroyed the WTC as being "anything but cowards" because they chose to die for their cause. I'm sorry, but that doesn't negate the fact that the very act itself, being a sneak attack on unsuspecting innocent civilians, was cowardly in the very WORST sense of the word.

What is useless and meaningless here is arguing with me about it.

i agree with you on this - strongly.

That's where you're wrong, CDSmith... It would take 5,544,610 years if they killed 1 per week, not 900 years. Furthermore, if the US population continues to increase at the current rate, it'll never happen.

To kill the entire US population in 900 years, you'd need to kill about (neglecting to account for anything else) a bit over 6000 people each week.

Population projection: http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/popclock

(btw. I'm betting 50 cents (Australian) that he's a terrorist.)

fuck that blame it on the games now.....

next you say "natural born killers" is the cause we have serial killers.....

soon porn is banned because you think that will stop rapes......

Its 100% wrong to call him a coward.
Shooting 12 people in 15 days is very brave with police/fbi/military looking for the guy. A coward would be too scared to shoot anyone in the first place.