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Peaches 06-24-2008 11:41 AM

Free Gonzo!

tiger 06-24-2008 11:41 AM

Contacting my rep now. If that's the case I'm leaving.

uno 06-24-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ayla_SquareTurtle (Post 14370577)
so is this going to be another 18 pager?

Doubt it. As far as we know they haven't fucked anyone yet.

Sebastian Sands 06-24-2008 11:43 AM

any word yet?

WiredGuy 06-24-2008 11:50 AM

Its not a great solution, but in the interest of keeping your account active, why not create a 3-5 page site and throw up some links. Send a couple hits a day, keep the recurrings active. It sucks, but if they want traffic that bad and its worth your while to keep your checks coming, it may be a half descent solution. If they require sales to keep your account active, that would really suck.
WG

tranza 06-24-2008 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 14369958)

This cartoon is very funny!

kristin 06-24-2008 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vod (Post 14369992)
XonDemand will not cancel your account if you do not send traffic...

It's a little unprofessional to come in and spam your product on threads like this.

TheDoc 06-24-2008 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14370651)
Its not a great solution, but in the interest of keeping your account active, why not create a 3-5 page site and throw up some links. Send a couple hits a day, keep the recurrings active. It sucks, but if they want traffic that bad and its worth your while to keep your checks coming, it may be a half descent solution. If they require sales to keep your account active, that would really suck.
WG

I think most people use theaters to promote them, and with aebn theaters you don't get click tracking.

Makes me wonder how they even know if the Fris does or doesn't send traffic.

BusterBunny 06-24-2008 12:03 PM

50?.....

BradM 06-24-2008 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 14370687)
I think most people use theaters to promote them, and with aebn theaters you don't get click tracking.

Makes me wonder how they even know if the Fris does or doesn't send traffic.

They have tracking. They may not give it to you, but there is tracking.

NikKay 06-24-2008 12:06 PM

Legal made me go through the T&C's of every sponsor we promoted in a project I managed last year. Almost every single sponsor has within their T&C's:

1. The right to change the T&C's at any time without notice.
2. The right to cancel accounts for any reason without notice.

It's pretty fucked up and I had a hell of a time convincing our brand new non-adult attorney to let me promote ANYBODY without a separate legal agreement in our favor.

babymaker 06-24-2008 12:14 PM

Everyone Needs To Send Me Your Old Broken Useless Gold And Diamonds In The Mail, And I Promise I will Send You Tons Of Cash For It

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

pocketkangaroo 06-24-2008 12:15 PM

Makes you wonder how bad of shape the industry really is.

spacedog 06-24-2008 12:17 PM

I'm not one bit surprised.

Gnus 06-24-2008 12:21 PM

Tell me it ain't so. Dam we have almost a 100 members with them. I hope this isn't true.

Gary

Sosa 06-24-2008 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 14370810)
Tell me it ain't so. Dam we have almost a 100 members with them. I hope this isn't true.

Gary

Not in a couple weeks lol

Gnus 06-24-2008 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 14370849)
Not in a couple weeks lol

:error lol

TheDoc 06-24-2008 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14370716)
They have tracking. They may not give it to you, but there is tracking.

The theater system is like 10 years old with them.. I don't think they tracked it then, and since it hasn't changed/updated in 10 years, I'm going to go with they don't track it now.

moeloubani 06-24-2008 12:52 PM

I emailed them and asked if it was true and the guy said:

'No, that is not true. Read the terms of service agreement. All concerns would be covered there.'

So I guess that was all just a bunch of BS.

(My question was: Hello Bill, is it true that AEBN will no longer send revshare payouts to people that haven't sent traffic in 90 days?)

DWB 06-24-2008 01:05 PM

Bunch of tools over there.

I give them 20+ DVDs a year to put in their system and they still call me and try to sell me on using AEBN.

Tat2Jr 06-24-2008 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by commonsense (Post 14369496)
Would REALLY like to see an Aebn rep in here. If true this is FUCKED.

BUMP

I make $60-$100 a month off them. No new members in 90 days???? Why should I have to be checking that? I've got 100 members that buy, but what if I have a 3 month dry spell? AEBN - Please clear this up so I don't have to pull my members area traffic.

Antonio 06-24-2008 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 14370651)
Its not a great solution, but in the interest of keeping your account active, why not create a 3-5 page site and throw up some links. Send a couple hits a day, keep the recurrings active. It sucks, but if they want traffic that bad and its worth your while to keep your checks coming, it may be a half descent solution. If they require sales to keep your account active, that would really suck.
WG

they want members, not traffic, so 20 hits a day won't cut it
btw just checked my stats with them 22 000 clicks made me $31.00

xentech 06-24-2008 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moeloubani (Post 14371005)
I emailed them and asked if it was true and the guy said:

'No, that is not true. Read the terms of service agreement. All concerns would be covered there.'

So I guess that was all just a bunch of BS.

(My question was: Hello Bill, is it true that AEBN will no longer send revshare payouts to people that haven't sent traffic in 90 days?)

I doubt Fris would make that up....

st0ned 06-24-2008 03:18 PM

What a crock of shit. WTF is up with all of these companies who say "Lifetime payouts" when they are not indeed lifetime? It should be changed to "Lifetime payouts with lifetime promotion". Fuckin whacked...Lets keep this thread on top.

_Richard_ 06-24-2008 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NikKay (Post 14370722)
Legal made me go through the T&C's of every sponsor we promoted in a project I managed last year. Almost every single sponsor has within their T&C's:

1. The right to change the T&C's at any time without notice.
2. The right to cancel accounts for any reason without notice.

It's pretty fucked up and I had a hell of a time convincing our brand new non-adult attorney to let me promote ANYBODY without a separate legal agreement in our favor.

haha there's a story i would like to hear

especially with that # 2

GatorB 06-24-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tat2Jr (Post 14371210)
BUMP

I make $60-$100 a month off them. No new members in 90 days???? Why should I have to be checking that? I've got 100 members that buy, but what if I have a 3 month dry spell? AEBN - Please clear this up so I don't have to pull my members area traffic.

Just currious as to how you know which members are buying?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-24-2008 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger (Post 14370593)
Contacting my rep now. If that's the case I'm leaving.

Me to...
Luckily I was not big promoter or have them everywhere on my sites. They just lost my 5 uniques day! LOL!@

Un-fucking real news though. If these big providers think this is good policy they got another thing comming.

d-null 06-24-2008 04:29 PM

this stuff is out in the open at least, I wonder if quiet shaving is growing lately or not?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-24-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jetjet (Post 14371902)
this stuff is out in the open at least, I wonder if quiet shaving is growing lately or not?

NO eventually program operators will tell you they shave but just not as much as they usually do.
:1orglaugh

PS: It is important to note VS changed thier policy and terms conditions stating Lifetime payouts specifically. I think it is important to say this, as I am starting to see a pattern.
Perhaps some programs will choose to terminate non traffic sending affiliates as a standard?

Spooky, we better start making a list of companies that engage this philosophy.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 06-24-2008 04:43 PM

I for one am glad Video Secrets changed there policy to honor lifetime payouts.

Chauncy 06-24-2008 04:50 PM

An I the only one who senses shenanigans we all know about the VS thing and the 18 pages and all the other threads that followed. I am 100% sure the Fris is not the only person her making recurring income from AEBN who has not sent a hit in 90 days but he is probably the most active poster here who hasn't. We have all see the love thread after VS has done the right thing. Is this just a marketing stunt?? I mean we all know the old adage "all press is good press" I am just saying...

thanks for reading now here is a funny shenanigans video

Tat2Jr 06-24-2008 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 14371790)
Just currious as to how you know which members are buying?

I don't. Rereading what I posted I can see why you thought I was saying that. I just meant that I have 100 members, and I have sales each month. It might just be one of them or 10 or 100 spending a buck each.

CyberHustler 06-24-2008 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chauncy (Post 14371946)
An I the only one who senses shenanigans we all know about the VS thing and the 18 pages and all the other threads that followed. I am 100% sure the Fris is not the only person her making recurring income from AEBN who has not sent a hit in 90 days but he is probably the most active poster here who hasn't. We have all see the love thread after VS has done the right thing. Is this just a marketing stunt?? I mean we all know the old adage "all press is good press" I am just saying...

thanks for reading now here is a funny shenanigans video

iAgree :thumbsup

Gnus 06-24-2008 06:02 PM

It would be nice if AEBN will confirm or deny this.

Gary

ayeronnie 06-24-2008 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 14372123)
It would be nice if AEBN will confirm or deny this.

Gary

That's what I was waiting to see.

Tjeezers 06-24-2008 06:23 PM

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SBJ 06-24-2008 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gnus (Post 14372123)
It would be nice if AEBN will confirm or deny this.

Gary

yup would like to see their response too

Vick! 06-24-2008 07:44 PM

not again .. :disgust

fris 06-24-2008 08:22 PM

Well the person works at aebn, and has phone number registered to aebn when she called me.

I could careless about the money, its the fact of lifetime revshare not being lifetime revshare.

The_Adventure 06-24-2008 09:51 PM

Any news?? I just started promoting them..sent over 100 members and made $9 so far.

If this is true, I have another reason to drop them.

Jim_Gunn 06-24-2008 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14371082)
Bunch of tools over there.

I give them 20+ DVDs a year to put in their system and they still call me and try to sell me on using AEBN.

Just curious DWB, who distributes your DVDs and how are they selling for you in the current market? I still release some lesbian DVD movies, but the market has sure changed over time. I assume you are releasing asian and mostly tranny movies?

Snake Doctor 06-24-2008 10:24 PM

This is just flat out fucking extortion. I hear shit like this is pretty common in mainstream marketing, but in adult it's an anomaly.

Anyone who owns any type of revenue sharing program needs to read this.
You have customers you wouldn't have had because of traffic we sent you. We could have sent that traffic to your competitors but instead we sent it to you. If those customers are still spending money then we deserve our cut. If you continue to pull shit like this then we will all insist on being paid per signup IN ADVANCE because we can't trust you to honor long term agreements.

I shouldn't have to send you business tomorrow in order to get paid my fair share for business I sent you today.

darksoul 06-24-2008 11:30 PM

That would be a dumb move on their side after working so hard (they emailed me till I gave up and signed up) to get new affiliates.

Doctor Dre 06-24-2008 11:42 PM

Time to pull links everybody...

jscott 06-25-2008 12:07 AM

Hopefully this is a misunderstanding, I'd hope there isnt another ripoff sponsor going for these TOS fuckovers

Good luck Fris and all other AEBN promoters (or ex-promoters)

Just Mike 06-25-2008 12:10 AM

this is a real shame they are doing this

GatorB 06-25-2008 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 14372679)
This is just flat out fucking extortion. I hear shit like this is pretty common in mainstream marketing, but in adult it's an anomaly.

Anyone who owns any type of revenue sharing program needs to read this.
You have customers you wouldn't have had because of traffic we sent you. We could have sent that traffic to your competitors but instead we sent it to you. If those customers are still spending money then we deserve our cut. If you continue to pull shit like this then we will all insist on being paid per signup IN ADVANCE because we can't trust you to honor long term agreements.

I shouldn't have to send you business tomorrow in order to get paid my fair share for business I sent you today.

It's not like they're paying 50%, 60% or 70% revshare like some places. They only pay 20% so they already keep 80%

the Shemp 06-25-2008 12:32 AM

who owns AEBN ?

Tjeezers 06-25-2008 01:52 AM

Scott Coffman, president and CEO of AEBN
Brad Ziel, Managing Director for AEBN


They also own http://whois.domaintools.com/pornotube.com
As you can see...

anyway, i find it suspicious they do not come into GFY to kill this thread while it still has 2 pages.

digifan 06-25-2008 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 14373010)
Scott Coffman, president and CEO of AEBN
Brad Ziel, Managing Director for AEBN


They also own http://whois.domaintools.com/pornotube.com
As you can see...

anyway, i find it suspicious they do not come into GFY to kill this thread while it still has 2 pages.

But it has 2 pages.. and growing.


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