one fiddy

I know more than you, things you could not even begin to understand and thats not saying much I am not a very smart guy. YOU are a cancer on this board make no mistake about it. When the faintest drama comes along we can always count on your words polluting and distorting the truths of whats occuring.

Only reason I included my selv in the VS thread is A: I recalled Chrome from way back in the day and B: I know video Secrets is an honorable company. I can not say the same for AEBN over the years so this is not my fight...

PS: Infact this event does not surprise me comming from AEBN whats so ever so its no big deal. No one makes huge money with AEBN and if they do the guys that use AEBN really did not think about maximsing there income potential.

While Videosecrets has many many many accounts that generate over 100K per year with long time clients, AEBN does not. Why? Because AEBN fucking sucks no matter how ya look at it so I can care less about this topic LOL!

Bye I got work to do.

:1orglaugh

AlienQ, are you posting under the influence of meds? Do you have some kind of mental illess? Is your account shared by multiple people? It has to be one of those 3.

So whats a good vod sponsor?

OH noes DirtyF got himself in a frenzy with double quoates! Holy cow!

So let me sum it up.

You say this:
B: I know video Secrets is an honorable company

Still you decide to totally attack them one day and then suddenly the next day youre calling them stand up people again. There is something seriously fucking wrong with you you fucking psycho idiot. You know that right.

Or maybe you just talk so fucking much bullshit you dont even have a clue anymore what opinion you had about what company 2 days ago. That wouldnt surprise me as youre in every fucking thread acting like you know it all. You dumb fuck.

Plus how you admitted you would call every person a stand up person in exchange for money makes you truly one of the biggest retards on this board. But thats nothing new i guess.

But how long have you sent them traffic? Those 240 members are an accumulation of all members you have ever sent. They never expire since it's non-recurring so that's the amount of members you have sent them the entire time you have promoted AEBN. It's not just active members in that count.

Looks like AEBN has their own definition...:(

Yep looking for the same thing. Good VOD or PPV sponsor.

Gary

Damn it is page 4... good going ;)

I can't believe no one posted a link to the VS thread yet...

Don't make me look... I know one of you still has it in a tab.

There are a bunch of them and they each have something unique to offer:

HotMovies.com - reaching 100,000 movies with thousands of studios
AdultRental.com - pays the highest PPS for any VOD company
Yappo.com - Pretty whitelabels and excellent WM support. Examples of WLs: www.camzvod.com / www.onlymoviesvod.com

Its funny how AlienQ is all over the place with his idiotic i know it all shit but as soon as you confront him with his lunatic opinions that change every day depending on what kinda meds hes on i guess he suddenly stops posting in those threads. Just like in the VS threads and now this one. That guy has serious problems going on.

Not much else needs to be said.

But I will add that there are other ways for programs like AEBN to get old affiliates to start promoting them again besides threatening to shitcan their accounts (and basically steal any rebills they have left).

Friendlier ways.

My aebn stats = sent 3596 uniques = 68 members referred, earnings = $57.65 = $1.60 per click..

hope aebn makes a response to this thread

Yes, that's exactly what it means. If you have a customer that you sent to site X rebilling or buying time every month for 10 years then you should be getting your cut. You had the choice of sending that customer to site X instead of site Y.

Kristin:

Can you hit me up about something Yappo related?

Shouldn't that be 1.6 cents a click?

yep. HUGE difference. Anyways I wouldn't go by per click, I go by per member, but that's just me.

Yes, it is ...you're correct... Been a looooonnng day :1orglaugh

This is Spacedog youre talking to :1orglaugh

They aren't going to respond to this thread here is the way I took when we wrote them. They told us to call them to discuss it and but when you call them be sure to ask the question what if I remove my links. Our rep is very aware of this thread we personally gave her the link to the thread.

Gary

yup they are taking a different route then vs did thinking if they don't respond it will just die

But they are still cheating the affiliates so..... BUMP

That is their lame thread... I wanted the surfer thread that started it all.

was deleted (or moved)

Good luck with that one. I'm sure a LOT of people would like to be referencing it right about now.

someone should start an affiliate gripe blog, kind of a storing house for drama to record the history as it progressed and any resolutions, would be a good reference for affiliates in deciding who they want to send traffic to... although I'm thinking forum copyrights on content would make it risky to save thread contents in a separate independent blog though I guess :2 cents:

What happened when you called? What did they say? Is what they told Fris true?

One could still have links up and get screwed over...

So, one could be still sending traffic, but if no NEW MEMBERS joined in the last 90 days then sounds to me they're going to steal your money.

If this is true then perhaps a breach of contract suit will fix them.

Wow, I'm glad I don't send any traffic to AEBN or VideoSecrets. And I never will either.

I think this just reflects how bad times are in the industry right now. These big sponsors are implementing some really shady/unethical tactics to try and keep their profits steady.

Wow Thats Funkin Crazy....

bbbbbump

Quoting, if anybody hasn't seen it yet.
I wanted to try a new VOD Sponsor anyway, guess it's time to change links now. Gonna leave a few up to send them their 1 member/90 days.

They didn't say anything about having to have new members. They said if you removed your links that the business relationship has been terminated by the affiliate and the account would be terminated.

Gary

pretty lame if you ask me

How do they know if you "removed links"? Do you mean stop sending traffic? You could have links up but nobody clicks. Hell they got a whopping 32 clicks from me in the last 4 months. I better still get a check. Sorry but in those 4 months of viturally sending no traffic their 80% ammounts to over $1200 in their pockets. No bad for someone sending no traffic. Who cares if we don't have links if the members we did send are still buying?

fuck you aebn

<---- has pulled links for shit like that in the past and will do it again.

They check the links I guess. What they said was is. If joe blow went through your site to your theater and bought minutes and doesn't use all the minutes and comes back later to use some minutes and can't find the link then joe blow thinks they can't use those minutes anymore and calls AEBN cause they want their money back. What was also asked was don't you send a link in their email to the theater for them to gain access. The response was yes we send them an email but most don't pay attention to the email. To me it all sounded pretty fucking lame.

Gary

AEBN doesnt care. They know it too many links will be pulled all they have to do is say sorry guys, we didnt mean it that way and everything is cool again.

AEBN really sucks

It was deleted. Saying that, how could you miss it? It got to like 11 pages...

LIFETIME = LIFETIME ... Amen

Yep that's what they are thinking.

It was close to 20 pages actually.

Gary

It's called shave bucks and someone has been doing it for some time.

OK, at first I wasn't going to share my thoughts, but after thinking about it over night thoughts should be shared.

AEBN is under constant threat from Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental and some other sites.
AEBN has enough traffic and doesn't need affiliates.
AEBN pays out a lot of money, 90% of which is probably old recurring.

Before this:
Affiliates had no reason not to try Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. They'll still get their checks from AEBN which is probably >90% recurring from years past.
Affiliates not only get recurring, but they also get a lot of new recurring. Win for affiliate, win for Hotmovies, Yappo, AdultRental. Loss for AEBN.
Personally I know hotmovies has gotten a lot of large AEBN affiliates to switch. I'm sure the other VOD programs could say the same.

Now since putting this into place AEBN is all in the win category:

Affiliate pulls traffic - AEBN keeps recurring money and sleeps on piles of cash.
Affiliate keeps traffic with AEBN - AEBN keeps sending checks, other VOD companies are blocked from that affiliate - AEBN sleeps on a pile of money

AEBN is a tough competitor. I don't think they care about the affiliate as much as they care about the bottom line.

I'm not saying their affiliate reps don't care about affiliates, I'm talking about the management who actually run the company. I'm sure their reps are all reading this thread and wondering how they are going to do their job with this working against them.

Hollyshit yet another sponsor that bites the dust..........

word....

How is it a loss? AEBN only pays out 20% Most revshare is at least 50% some up to 70% So how many thousands am I out by not getting 50%. So they way I look at it it shouldn't fucking matter.