I think the only thing we've all proved here is that none of us are actually smart enough to understand this shit on any debatable level.

As Brian Regan once said as he was sitting on his couch shoving chips into his face watching Nova and learning why Einstein didn't factor gravity into his theory of relativity, "Yeah, (chomp, chomp, chomp) I was wondering why he didn't do that."

You guys are both idiots. They've been doing this exact same research for DECADES already. Fermi Lab opened in 1967! It's the same damn thing, just on a smaller scale. This new one will be roughly seven times the size of Fermi Labs. Another words, it's nothing new. It's just a larger scale.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermilab
http://www.fnal.gov/

R-Tards. :1orglaugh

ok, so show me this "damage" done to chicago.... it's ok, I'll even take proof seven times smaller than the supposed damage you're saying is possible.

If any of us really understood this shit you think we'd be selling porn? You guys are delusional.

You do realize you're all pimps right?

This sounds like a bunch of crack heads sitting around discussing real world issues.

I'm a semester away from a Bachelor of Science degree in Physics :P

But really, this stuff does have a chance of happening. But it's such a tiny chance that it's dumb to think of it at all. When you shrink things down to that size, weird things happen and probability takes over where certainty reigns in the 'normal' world. For example, it's totally possible that someone could put their hand on a door and their hand would pass right through. But it would require the exact alignment of all the trillions of atoms in their hand and in the door, and the probability of that all coming together is so slim that it just doesn't happen. But you could still say it could happen and no one can say it can't because well, it can.

The point is that the risk of something happening that would have an affect on anything outside the collider and it's sensors in terms of physical damage is almost zero. And it's not like winning the lottery almost zero, it's like winning the lottery, then winning it again with the same numbers 5 weeks in a row. It just won't happen. But what will happen is people will be able to see and measure for the first time the elementry particles (particles that can't be broken down any further) that make up the atoms that make up all the shit we see today. Included with those elementry particles is a theoretical particle called the 'graviton' or Higgs Boson that is what most physicists today think is responsible for gravity (kind of crazy that with all we know, we really don't know what causes gravity). But the experiments carried out with that collider could very well lead to the discovery (or experimental proof) of the particles that lead to gravity which would then lead to a clearer understanding of the world at a quantum level.

i just said its a larger scale you fuckup. :1orglaugh
owowowow you know about fermilab!!?!??! YOU MUST HAVE GOVT INSIDE INFO! REMIND ME TO STAY AWAY FROM YOU YOU MUST BE CIA!! YOU SOOO SCHMART

All i have to say is...........

https://youtube.com/watch?v=0sHj6V1lfek

nothing at all

Going on the defensive now? Two minutes ago you were mister know-it-all, come back kid with all the facts and opinions on the subject. I come along and point out this is old news, and the research has been going on for decades. Suddenly you're just trying to be funny and throw out insults? Lame. Way to make it apparent you don't know shit on the subject.

By the way.... Everyone in the surrounding areas knows about Fermi Lab. It's the biggest atom-smasher / speed accelerator on the planet (least until august). You kinda know about things like that when they're next door.

This is very interesting... I am going to learn more.

please point out where i said this was new research?

i am laughing at you because you are stating things i never said or pointing out things i already said.

Hmm. pwned much?

looks like you having reading comprehension problems so this may be difficult for you.
"B) nothing like this has ever been tried and or tested even close"
http://www.gfy.com/14389642-post50.html

notice the "even close" if you still think 7 times the speed is "close" then i dont know how to break it to you, you are an idiot?

"C) comparing anything else i mean ANYTHING else to this is just not possible"
we were talking about an atom bomb compared to tearing a hole into the universe. if you think this is the same i dont know how to break it to you, you are an idiot?

we will try this again it will be hard for you
but where did i say this was new research?

let me guess again... you are an idiot.

I got kicked out of school and I sell porn for a living. Perhaps you could be doing something better with your life than wasting it talking to the dregs of society.

If I were as smart as you, the last place I'd be is on GFY.

I'm only here because I can't make this much money selling sculptures, and being a professional beach bum in Maui doesn't pay that much.

Don't be shy, we all know your a super genius! :winkwink:

This was a thread presented by GFY rocket science team. ;)

Better let's stop technology, let's kill all the black hole dealers, let's burn cars, let's stop factory's then world will be safer as it was at the old times ;)

It's always funny when the media talks about some scientific item and everyone gets freaked out about it...

One summer I worked at the particle accelerator out at UBC, Canada.. Worked with another guy to write code to auto-adjust the magnets to get the optimum particle stream as well as someother odds and ends.. Pretty damn boring actually given there's really nothing to see except the radiation warning signs etc. They did some cool stuff there though. Like they would create special isotope medication and then stick the vials in this vaccum tube that would fire off the medication to the hospital a couple miles away. Then there was this other room where a person with tumors etc. in the brain would have to get a face mold which would hold them completely immobile and they'd fire off particles into their skull which acted like little "depth charges" to destory the tumors.

Thing is.. I bet 99.9% of the people in the lower mainland don't even know it's there.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm more afraid of getting hit by a bus.

I can't help but laugh at the thought of time travel :1orglaugh

While I don't think it's possible no matter what the technology, I do think it would be a great thing to experience if it were possible.

Too bad I myself will never experience it though :1orglaugh

:1orglaugh

I care more about which pop tart im going to eat next than some spinning circle. Unless these new discoveries will contribute to the betterment of pop tarts?

Robert Anton Wilson on Quantum Physics

It's not even close to the same thing. This one will produce 7 times the energy of the FermiLab.

So have you guys decided yet if we are all gonna die?
I need to prepare if so.

I sale cheap singularities

Well, theoritcally we could die without any warning at any time, if a meteorite hits earth, and science mostly only know about meteorites after they hit earth - even the larger ones. However even with the theoritcally chance being there, then people do not stop living their lifes :thumbsup

This will happen, nothing will stop them. All we can hope is good will come out of it.

No but it does explain some of the crime trends in that region... :helpme

yeah right....

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh ...

But what if you're crashing into a wall at 700mph compared to a bus full of kids head-on at 100mph. 100mph wins!

(kidding)

Throw two balls at each other at 10 mph, and throwing to balls at each other at 70mph. Are both still throwing two balls at each other. It's the same thing.

This new one will simply allow them more data and experiments to process.

Well then hopefully after august we'll have a crime rate 7 times lower! So we'll actually look like a sane and peaceful city.

I doubt it, but on the plus side it would happen so quick we wouldn't notice.

It may open extra dimensions in space and they say its safe? How do they know what is on that other dimension, let alone the notion that it will be safe.

http://lh4.google.ca/abramsv/R94S7qt...jpg?imgmax=512

http://lh6.google.ca/abramsv/R93vgat...jpg?imgmax=512

http://lh3.google.ca/abramsv/R94h6at...jpg?imgmax=512

http://lh5.google.ca/abramsv/R-NHQPX...at-144-dpi.jpg

Just so you all know the Japanese have had one of these for the past 10 years.

Ok thanks! Now I know what to do. I am gonna wear a tin foil hat from now on!

http://rightvoices.com/wp-content/up...infoil-hat.jpg

If you are going to believe anything from a scientist, then believe that the Mayan calendar may predict the end in 2012

I hope a black hole spawns and swallows the earth, destroying every human being on it.

This would be the most fitting end to humanity I can think of.

Bullshit!

Hundreds of physicists working on the Manhattan project thought that was possible.

we be fucked

From my understanding, this starts in 2 days :glugglug

http://edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/...ef=mpstoryview

How can the world end when it is an illusion created by our collective conciousness?

we are doomed :)

It's September ... We're all dead!

One of the biggest, and the highest-energy accelerator currently operating is at Fermilab near Chicago. the LHC is just a much bigger, more powerful version of your standard proton accelerator with much higher energy and much more data-crunching infrastructure. Nothing catastrophic will happen, but there will probably be some major breakthrough discoveries in physics. But, 99.9% of the world is either too rich or too poor to care.