Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 14403293)

look at the 5 day chart on that page you linked.
as I mentioned earlier, their sales were merely 'up' from what analysts had forecast, not 'up' from the previous month. in other words, they didn't lose as much as was expected.

you know, a large part of the problem they (and all auto manufacturers) are experiencing right now, is directly due to modern day investor expectations. shareholders generally aren't interested in making steady profits over the long term via dividends, they're interested in doing whatever increases revenue in the current fiscal quarter and drives up stock prices.

conforming to that goal has meant continuing to build large trucks & SUV's and not focusing on economy cars over the past 5 years, despite a steady rise in gas prices and the inevitable present-day situation.

the automakers are as capable as any other industry of anticipating future market demands, yet their hands are tied partially due to short term speculators that help to create the mess they - and the country as a whole - are currently in.
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Originally Posted by czarina (Post 14403222)

their coffee is too expensive, and if you have to choose between $4 a gallon of gas or $4 a cup of coffee, I'm sure the option is clear.
They need to lower their prices, and that will fix most of their problems.

Originally Posted by Jim_Gunn (Post 14403738)

Starbucks is a total waste of time and money. I don't drink coffee and make my hot tea at home. The inconvenience of driving there, wasting gas and overpaying for coffee which should only cost pennies per cup makes anyone frequenting those places a fool. If you are that much into coffee, buy your own machine and make your own at home. You will save money and time and gas and you will have the satisfaction that you aren't a lemming willingly giving up your hard earned money to some big corporation that charges you a premium for wasting your precious time.

Originally Posted by AmateurFlix (Post 14401138)

I know what you're referring to. if you look into it, it seems very apparent those rumors were put out by some banker in europe trying to save his job by deflecting blame for his bank losing a shit ton of money... btw, GM sales were up in June :winkwink:

Originally Posted by TyroneGoldberg (Post 14492072)