50 FAT LANDWHALES

(yes thats you Headless)

afraid of a raving crazy insane loon? ya that will be the day, keep telling yourself that, your site doesnt even meet w3's standards, and you call yourself a designer.

bump for more shitty work from alienq

lol yea your seo is so great that you don't even show up on the 1st page on google for ialien and with ialien.com as domain you realy need to have donr your best for that. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

a person that doesnt want to seo their site, i would say he has the brain of a pea, but that would be insulting to the pea

He has some pretty high SE rankings on his celeb site so I'm 100% sure that's real.

HAHAHAAHA

You cant get it up

Hey, at least I get laid. Can you even FIND your dick without looking in the mirror?

:1orglaugh

That was 6 years ago. I fucked some slut and got some STD. A 5-day course of anti-biotics cleared that shit right up.

Is that the best you can come up with?

I thought you were going to post "all the stuff you run". You fat bucket of shit.

I find it funny you cant get it up.

HAHAHAHA

Fat man, you got royally owned.

Just shut the fuck up, tuck your tail and run away.

Do you realize you just cant get it done for your women.

AHAAJA

Davey Jones can't get it up?
Not when it's mom. That's what I heard.

Is it hard to become a designer?

You can go to school to learn how to use all of the programs, script, etc.. you need to know to be a web designer.
And while you are at school you build a portfolio..

Is it easy? is what easy? to get a job? to get clients?

Nothing is easy some things are more difficult for other people..

But it's definately not the hardest field to get into if you want to compare it to becoming a electrician or a cop or a fireman yah it's fuckin easy...

Not many good jobs tho... Getting that cool high paying job that designers all want is the hard part...

i'll add amp and bucknaked, but they are rarely post now

the difference is most of the so called "designers" on gfy begging for work are usually guys who spent about 10 hours on PS and read a couple of tutorials and think they can make a career out of it....the good designers dont ask for work...they are usually booked up months in advance.

Well no thats a generalization...

I don't think a lot of them are posers or fake... Sure some of them might be newbs... But so what?

My problem is with the designers who actually SUCK but they act like they are amazing or people tell them they are good when they really aren't...

I don't care if a newb is begging for work..

That's how you get experience and build a portfolio to prove you can do work..

no idea about your skills but as far as gfy goes, based on the samples Ive seen posted its nothing impressive.

And just cause someone knows how to turn on PS doesnt make them a designer....just cause I can write 4 lines of code doesnt make me a programmer.

Of course maybe the Adult Design industry is different...Ive worked with designers who work in the non adult biz and some of the things they churn out is jaw dropping...Ive very rarely seen anything that made me say "wow" in Adult...atleast not recently

Actually I might have read what you said wrong..

You will always see the bad designers begging for work.. You are right..

you dont see dickmans, wyldesites, madsights, or any of the top companies ever posting for work, people goto them.

GFY has a few very good designers/scripters.

[/quote]And just cause someone knows how to turn on PS doesnt make them a designer....just cause I can write 4 lines of code doesnt make me a programmer.[/QUOTE]

Well I agree and disagree...

Doing design is a on a whole other fucking level than being a programmer.

No designer even wants to be called a designer.. It's a term that is just tossed around... Dunno what the fuck you expect me to say about that...

I mean anyone can open up photoshop and design a poster they don't have to be a designer...

I think a person becomes a "designer" the moment they are doing it FOR someone for exchange of money or service....

Designer is a profession...

Well duh obviously you are going to see more talent in mainstream. Why would anyone want to work in Adult? Nobody does thats why most adult companies get stuck hiring horrible designers.

I've seen a lot of good work by designers working in Adult.

Obviously I've also seen a lot of crap.

Dickmans is on a whole other level.

It depends how the designer does business and if that designer is a firm or not.

and how long that designer has been doing work.

If the designer is a newb they are going to need to ask for work or promote themselves.

Exactly. And to top it off, they charge 3x as much as local GFY assclowns, and are booked 2 months ahead.

If you have to spam the board with constant "GFY specials" threads, you're a god damn failure.

Why?

What if I wanted to make $2500 in one week on top of what I normally make?

So I did a promo thread offering $2 banners because I know I will get that many more people buying banners because of the lower price??

Stop generalizing. I think everyone just needs to stfu.

If you're a good designer, you have clients lined up for several weeks ahead. I know from first hand experience, because I often have to wait before my fav designer starts working on my project.

Only shitty designers do "special promos". They do it because they don't have any clients and need to attract them somehow.

Good designers don''t need to lowball themselves. If anything their prices only rise up.

/thread

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I see a lot of horrible designers who are busy. Good and Bad is subjective...

I really don't see the blantant spamming of promo threads.

I saw a bunch of $5 banner threads that I flamed... But its really not that many...

Obviously you aren't going to see a firm like Dickmans or Kreadult posting up $5 banners heh...

I'm a good designer I refuse to do work for anyone but myself or a full time job... But some times I'm going to need extra cash..

thats how I see it, be it correct or not....I use a mainstream design firm for my offline businesses and I have to book them 2-3 months in advance....so i know for a fact they dont have time to do $5 banner promos every week...so it makes me think differently when someone claims to have big clients lined up yet doing $10 banner threads week in week out.

I know for a newb you have to start somewhere, and thats pretty much true in any career...but when I see guys who have been in the biz for 4,5 and even 10 years asking for work continuosly i dont have much faith in their skills...of course maybe their skills are good but they dont have much business sense.

But like what's your point? so what?

mostly true...

some great - busy - designers still run specials...

zuzanna for one, i see specials from her all the time but we all know shes pumping them out left n right... her portfolio speaks for itself.

I dont think ive ran a special... for... at least a year...

Dont need to...

I do a shit load more than design though, so...

Crazy, i had no clue you were such a pimp DJ... some nice stats :thumbsup

I do specials every month:) 1st two clients who orders are made ahead of time for the month get a pretty good discount. It's just to secure work ahead of time so I keep busy and the clients so far seem to love this concept.:)

SEE SIG!
I Totally SUCK!

point is what I said originally in this thread

See we will use Deej as an example

Deej a good designer? No.
Does he call himself a designer? Yes.
Is he busy? Yes.

I can do the same for Zuzana..

It's all subjective.. Bad designers as long as they get the work done when needed stay busy...

Ahh but that's BS.. Lookit all of the designers "begging" for work like AlienQ who have been here and using photoshop for 10 years...

Im hurt... :1orglaugh

Actually I prefer to call myself a general webmaster that is capable of good amateur designs... Ive said that for years...

I do far beyond just designing sites. I do nearly anything a program needs besides programming. I work with it but i cant write it. Video and photo editing... script troubleshooting.. Affiliate help... tons of shit... not to mention my own shit... I need 3 midgets to help me maintain this ship...

I can pull off some nice designs lately... a ton of which no one have seen yet... my skills are growing... in all directions...

but... im not here to defend myself... I dont need to... I know your game :winkwink:

can't we all just get along?

if you're a designer... just because YOU may think another designer sucks doesn't mean shit...
if someone is willing to pay them for their work, they must be doing something right, so why not just shut the fuck up and worry about your own shit?

praise jesus... I give compliments to all the disigners around here on their good shit, no sense in bashing each other...

shit when headless came back from his desk job and was peddling banners, I complimented that shit and tossed out some pointers to improve on some things.. just basic fundamentals of PS and shit... he took it as bashing...

Some designers are far too touchy and blindly serious...

This is my keyboard... it is mighty@!!!


I get inspiration from tons of designers around here... no need to bash a colleague...

Live and learn, whatever... looking to get out of the "design" scene in the near future anyway...

im sure the next category will bring on the same bickering between peers, though...

Bring it on!!




ok back to work all... dont kill each other...


I have a big cock!

Not true... they don't post very often, but I have seen threads with Dickman posting here before. :2 cents:

Usually when theyre winning an award for kicking ass... AGAIN :thumbsup

This thread turned amazing, whoever has not read it is fucking losing out...

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wow, i thought *i* and the girls i date were immature

I see this hasn't died down. :1orglaugh

wait till alien gets up he will go in bezerk mode

Have a laugh in the meantime. Headless is available if you need banners. Just beware that this is what you might get out of the deal:


http://boobtoober.com/cutekatinaheadless1.gif

http://boobtoober.com/cutekatinaheadless2.gif

http://boobtoober.com/ebonyheadless.gif

http://boobtoober.com/oldbroadsheadless.gif

the first one isnt bad

You gotta be kidding :1orglaugh

I mean the colors look pretty, but who the fuck is gonna click on that piece of shit.

wtf :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You sure you didn't get those off some old site on Archive.org?

I dont even remember that shit...

I've had pretty good luck with the designers I've used. I haven't really had a bad experience with a designer yet.

The only real issue I have with designers and it's mostly general in nature is fixed designs that don't allow you to increase font size or type more text with the design breaking. A lot of designs only give a certain amount of space for the dynamic text parts and if you go beyond that there are gaps that shouldn't be there. It's been a common problem with pretty much every designer I've gone with.