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Odin 07-13-2008 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JeffCliff (Post 14454342)
If Iran were attacked, there would be no land invasion like there was in afganistan or iraq. It would all be by aircraft or missiles. Iran knows that any attack on them, will be initially started by Israel and it will be swift and most likely will take out all of their military infrastructure. In return they will attack everything within shooting distance and that will spur attacks from other nations. When Iran eventually loses, and they will, this will spur outbreaks of violence from every corner of the globe from muslim extremist groups. This will in turn create many responses like the ones after 9/11 causing a worldwide crackdown on terrorism, causing much racial profiling and more tension. I don't think it will cause World War? but it will cause World Chaos for sure.

Again Shia Islam only represents around 10-15% of the global Muslim population, and for the most part they are much more moderate and less religious than Sunni's. Even Hezbollah, the big bad terrorist, does not conduct bombings and missions in the same fashion as Sunni extremists so I wouldn't expect anything like what you described above to occur outside Shia dominated regions in the ME. If you guys are going to comment on this stuff though you should at least know something about the region and peoples.

Odin 07-13-2008 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 14455108)
I seem to think this is the best post on this topic in the last year on any board online.

That's because you have no clue. I'd put the likelihood of ANY Shia terrorist attack occurring in the West very very low. And Sunni Muslims sure aren't going to bomb on their behalf. Hell, when it peaks in Iraq after this the thousand year war between the sects will be as hot as ever.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-13-2008 02:27 PM

Ya people give Irans military to much credit.
They would die by the 1000's or even 10's of thousands in the first week.

Iran really does not have shit going for it cept Terrorist tactics, one can be sure the Iranian Leadership would be out and gone in the first week if not the first day of bombing.

That includes any Naval, Airforce and Weapons collatoral on the land. It would be devasting to them. Irans Military is no stronger than Saddams shit. Thats a fact.

Combine US fire power with Isreali fire power, an invasion would not be the goal. The only goal would be to knock out government insitutions and leadership while taking out military resources. The Iranians would have to pick up the pieces from there and ultimatly the excursion would set the nuclear research back 10 to 20 years. Terrorist shit from Iran is a given thats all they can do and it's pretty much all they are doing right now.

Honestly I think it would be good time to take out Iran.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-13-2008 02:35 PM

No it would not be WWIII. It would be another Massacre of shit talking idiots who's only goal is to confront, terrorize and destroy European and Western Cultures.

I do not really see taking them out as WWIII material.

tony286 07-13-2008 02:50 PM

Russia and China already have warned attacking Iran would be a bad move.This wouldn't be iraq by no stretch. One good thing, the big lets go to war talkers will get their chance when the draft was activated because our military is stretched very thin.

Rochard 07-13-2008 03:03 PM

You are all a bunch of sheep.

First of all, to be called a World War a lot of countries have to be involved. During WWII, all of Europe, the South Pacific, The Middle East, Africa, and North America was involved.

Second..... Iran will be a cakewalk. There are just too few countries that can match the US military these days. Iran fought Iraq for nearly ten years and it ended in a draw. We invaded Iraq (twice) and kicked their asses quickly. Afghanistan is another example - Russia tried to invade them in the 1980s and couldn't do it. We walked in, kick the doors open, and it's done.

Sorry charlie. We can kick their asses from the air and they'll never even see it coming.

Vendot 07-13-2008 03:10 PM

The very same people who are preaching about how easy it would be for the US to whip Iran's ass, are the same people who would be crying because of lost comrades, high oil prices, high food prices, a weak dollar and an economy that is well and truly dead.

Wake up people....... you do NOT need another war. Your country is at its feet economically and things are going downhill fast whether you attack Iran or not... but if you do, the US will NOT recover from this. Remind yourselves, take a look at the current account (the stats are published by the CIA - a US agency):

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2187rank.html

stickyfingerz 07-13-2008 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14455607)
Not a chance in hell. Israel is not landlocked. If Israel was somehow invaded by land they would be wiped out. As regards nukes, well that doesnt even come into question as theyd never use them.

You have to remember that the US has a military that is decades ahead of Iraq's and Afghanistan's but surely you recognise, it hasnt been a walkover there.

You sir need to do some research on Israel. Sorry but they would not even need our help to easily take out Iran. EASILY.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Defense_Forces

buzzy 07-13-2008 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14455741)
You are all a bunch of sheep.

First of all, to be called a World War a lot of countries have to be involved. During WWII, all of Europe, the South Pacific, The Middle East, Africa, and North America was involved.

Second..... Iran will be a cakewalk. There are just too few countries that can match the US military these days. Iran fought Iraq for nearly ten years and it ended in a draw. We invaded Iraq (twice) and kicked their asses quickly. Afghanistan is another example - Russia tried to invade them in the 1980s and couldn't do it. We walked in, kick the doors open, and it's done.

Sorry charlie. We can kick their asses from the air and they'll never even see it coming.

When Iran had the war with Iraq, it was very different then, because at the time, Iraq was a Military superpower, they had the 5th biggest military in the world and it was still growing, plus they were building nuclear weapons (allegedly).

Vietnam was a failure.

Iraq and Afghanistan have both been failures, USA and UK troops are still dying there, almost by the day.

Iran will be a much worse failure, they are more technologically advanced than you think.

directfiesta 07-13-2008 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14455741)
You are all a bunch of sheep.

First of all, to be called a World War a lot of countries have to be involved. During WWII, all of Europe, the South Pacific, The Middle East, Africa, and North America was involved.

Second..... Iran will be a cakewalk. There are just too few countries that can match the US military these days. Iran fought Iraq for nearly ten years and it ended in a draw. We invaded Iraq (twice) and kicked their asses quickly. Afghanistan is another example - Russia tried to invade them in the 1980s and couldn't do it. We walked in, kick the doors open, and it's done.

Sorry charlie. We can kick their asses from the air and they'll never even see it coming.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

crockett 07-13-2008 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TyroneGoldberg (Post 14452491)
Right, you mean just like the US is doing in Iraq. Ok.

Did you sleep through Dessert Storm or were you too young to remember it? We kicked Iraq's ass in DS1 and we kicked their Army's ass in the current Gulf War. The reason we are having problems there now, is because Bush and co are morons and are making our Army do something it's not equipped to do.

Military is likely unmatched when it comes to actual war. However much like every army in the world, ours isn't meant to be a police force. Thats why we are failing in Iraq and Afghan, simply because they are trying to use an attack force as a police force to keep peace.

papill0n 07-13-2008 03:30 PM

The world has tolerated one unjust invasion already. They won't do it again.

just a punk 07-13-2008 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14451836)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

What is Bavaria ?

http://www.mybavaria.co.za/blog/imag...RELENTLESS.JPG

directfiesta 07-13-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14455853)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh nice pic :thumbsup

brassmonkey 07-13-2008 04:54 PM

like biggie smalls said "im ready to die!":1orglaugh:1orglaugh rick james bitch!:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

bronco67 07-13-2008 04:59 PM

All depends on what your idea of World War is.

DS250 07-13-2008 05:50 PM

Have any of you idiots ever heard of the Iran/Iraq war? The worst fought war in the hitory of the world that dragged on for 8 years and Iran's military has not improved much since then. Even a depleted US could destroy Iran in not time at all and Israel just as quickly if they choose to.

tony286 07-13-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14455771)
The very same people who are preaching about how easy it would be for the US to whip Iran's ass, are the same people who would be crying because of lost comrades, high oil prices, high food prices, a weak dollar and an economy that is well and truly dead.

Wake up people....... you do NOT need another war. Your country is at its feet economically and things are going downhill fast whether you attack Iran or not... but if you do, the US will NOT recover from this. Remind yourselves, take a look at the current account (the stats are published by the CIA - a US agency):

https://www.cia.gov/library/publicat.../2187rank.html

Another war will financially ruin this country.

OzzyWeb1 07-13-2008 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Matyko (Post 14451987)
maybe its time to move to a safe place like Australia...

lol! I'm in Aus, and the subtle mindfucking of "can't do this, can't do that" can be a bit much. It feels like Democracy = Dictatorship sometimes.

But like you said, it is a lot safer...especially now that the Australian government gave a $1Billion dollar donation to the Indonesian Sunami relief. How else is our government going to appease 200 million muslims - who until recently loved bombing us Aussies. :winkwink:

SilentKnight 07-13-2008 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14455062)
I really love democracy peace spreading countries , such as the USA ... and their representatives here .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Hmm...Iran threatens to 'wipe Israel off the map' - and U.S. is the bad guy here for approving Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program? :disgust

buzzy 07-13-2008 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DS250 (Post 14456152)
Have any of you idiots ever heard of the Iran/Iraq war? The worst fought war in the hitory of the world that dragged on for 8 years and Iran's military has not improved much since then. Even a depleted US could destroy Iran in not time at all and Israel just as quickly if they choose to.

It has improved but Israel would stll crush it in an air strike, i just don't see them destroying EVERY weapon that Iran has, because all it would take is some rockets landing on tel aviv and it's over. Know what I mean? I don't think it's worth it at all...

tony286 07-13-2008 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14456291)
Hmm...Iran threatens to 'wipe Israel off the map' - and U.S. is the bad guy here for approving Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program? :disgust

Let's be real about this, everyone knows they have nothing to back it up with. So whats the point besides $15 a gallon gas?

directfiesta 07-13-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14456291)
Hmm...Iran threatens to 'wipe Israel off the map' - and U.S. is the bad guy here for approving Israel's attack on Iran's nuclear program? :disgust

The USA threatens daily various countries .... and actually do aggress countries ... Iran hasn't done anything aside from blabbing ....

And Iran doesn't try to wrap itself in the blanket of purety as the USA tries to ...

Did you ever think that they could have fired those missiles to US irak bases ?

fsudirectory 07-13-2008 07:12 PM

If Iran didnt "posture" since thast the buzz word in politics right now... about their military capabilities and idle threats, it wouldnt matter.

Israel may be small but they would destroy whatever Iran has. Dont act as if they havent been in there for years and have what they need mapped out. A few days bombarding Iran and their military outlets and nuclear facilities, a few missles that will probably miss Israel and hit someone else (Causing Iran more problems) since their new missile isnt even 100% out of development and it would be over.

All of this by Iran right now is to not look weak as Israel tests out their awesome aircraft while Iran needs to photoshop pictures of their missile tests.

SilentKnight 07-13-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14456320)
The USA threatens daily various countries .... and actually do aggress countries ... Iran hasn't done anything aside from blabbing ....

Did you sleep through the Iran/Iraq war?

If Iran is only "blabbing" - what do you call their testing of medium-range missiles?

A hiccup?

Rochard 07-13-2008 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 14455795)
When Iran had the war with Iraq, it was very different then, because at the time, Iraq was a Military superpower, they had the 5th biggest military in the world and it was still growing, plus they were building nuclear weapons (allegedly).

Vietnam was a failure.

Iraq and Afghanistan have both been failures, USA and UK troops are still dying there, almost by the day.

Iran will be a much worse failure, they are more technologically advanced than you think.

Iraq and Afghanistan is far from being a failure.... I love it when people call it a "war". It's not a war. A war when the armies of two governments fight each other. Seems to me that the governments we were once fighting are no longer in power. Now it's an occupation. What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.

I don't understand all of this talk about the US leaving. We went to war with these countries; We own them. We are still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Pulling out of Iraq is the worst thing we can do; The moment we leave these terrorists will turn their attention fully on the new government of Iraq which will crumble, and then they'll focus their attention back on us - On the US mainland.

As for Iran.... Whatever. It will be another joke, the "mother of all battles" just like in Iraq. We have missiles we can launch from the US that hit Iran; We have planes they can't see and aircraft carriers off their coast. The president of Iran has less support than President Bush does. It will be more of what happened in Iraq; Their army will flee into the darkness and hide like cowards. And the missiles they just launched..... They have some decent range, but they aren't exactly accurate.

cykoe6 07-13-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben (Post 14455829)
The world has tolerated one unjust invasion already. They won't do it again.

And what exactly would the "world" do? Pass a harshly worded UN resolution? :1orglaugh

directfiesta 07-13-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 14456330)
Did you sleep through the Iran/Iraq war?

If Iran is only "blabbing" - what do you call their testing of medium-range missiles?

A hiccup?

Are you serious ?????

Iran/Iraq war was a proxy war done by Iraq for the USA ....

As for missiles, what is the problem ???? Israel has none ? Israel doesn't do test, such as dry run for simulated bombings... Israel never attacked any countries, so they have no reason to be defensive ?

Saddam destroyed his Scuid ( in accordance with the UN inspection process ): look where it got him .. at the end of a rope ..

Now look at North Korea now .. They showed muscle, now they are getting retribution ...

Iran never attacked any countries .... but got their democracy san=botaged bu the USA to put their Shah PUPPET ....

tony286 07-13-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14456331)
Iraq and Afghanistan is far from being a failure.... I love it when people call it a "war". It's not a war. A war when the armies of two governments fight each other. Seems to me that the governments we were once fighting are no longer in power. Now it's an occupation. What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.

I don't understand all of this talk about the US leaving. We went to war with these countries; We own them. We are still in Germany, Japan, and Korea. Pulling out of Iraq is the worst thing we can do; The moment we leave these terrorists will turn their attention fully on the new government of Iraq which will crumble, and then they'll focus their attention back on us - On the US mainland.

As for Iran.... Whatever. It will be another joke, the "mother of all battles" just like in Iraq. We have missiles we can launch from the US that hit Iran; We have planes they can't see and aircraft carriers off their coast. The president of Iran has less support than President Bush does. It will be more of what happened in Iraq; Their army will flee into the darkness and hide like cowards. And the missiles they just launched..... They have some decent range, but they aren't exactly accurate.

You cant compare those our countries to iraq. Once the war was over it was, in iraq every other day we hear about some of our guys dying. Also I love the thinking lets totally fuck up the iraqi peoples country so the terrorists dont come here and then we wonder why they hate us. lol

tony286 07-13-2008 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14456335)
And what exactly would the "world" do? Pass a harshly worded UN resolution? :1orglaugh

Actually China and Russia said they didnt think it would be a good move. China owns a large piece of our debt.

directfiesta 07-13-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14456331)
What you have right now is terrorists attacking US troops.

Funny how you guys supported , armed and financed terrorists against the liberating Soviet forces in Afghanistan ...

directfiesta 07-13-2008 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 14456331)
Iraq and Afghanistan is far from being a failure....

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* The Guardian,
* Monday July 14, 2008
* Article history

The Nato-led effort to subdue the Taliban suffered one of its heaviest blows since the 2001 invasion yesterday when nine US soldiers were killed and 15 other Nato troops injured in a day-long battle in a region close to the Pakistan border.

The US troops died as their base came under attack in Kunar province, eastern Afghanistan. The news puts further pressure on Pakistan, where coalition forces believe many Taliban militants are based. It was among the biggest losses for the coalition since the start of the war.
If you say so ...

cykoe6 07-13-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14456341)
Actually China and Russia said they didnt think it would be a good move. China owns a large piece of our debt.

China's economy is very dependent on exports to the US. They are not going to destroy their own economy to help Iran.

Russia has almost no conventional military capabilities at all. They could easily be defeated by the Turkish or French military. Even their best, most battle ready divisions are not nearly up to Western standards. They will stick to picking on the Georgians.

banglacash 07-13-2008 07:36 PM

this is a useless poll. very low chance. sunnis don't like shitte countries. therefore, sunni nations like saudis, pakis and others are not a fan of iran to rally behind them.

stickyfingerz 07-13-2008 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14456339)
Are you serious ?????

Iran/Iraq war was a proxy war done by Iraq for the USA ....

As for missiles, what is the problem ???? Israel has none ? Israel doesn't do test, such as dry run for simulated bombings... Israel never attacked any countries, so they have no reason to be defensive ?

Saddam destroyed his Scuid ( in accordance with the UN inspection process ): look where it got him .. at the end of a rope ..

Now look at North Korea now .. They showed muscle, now they are getting retribution ...

Iran never attacked any countries .... but got their democracy san=botaged bu the USA to put their Shah PUPPET ....

He destroyed his scuid missles? Hmm interesting since I seem to recall them shooting some at us when we were attacking Iraq this time..

tony286 07-13-2008 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14456383)
He destroyed his scuid missles? Hmm interesting since I seem to recall them shooting some at us when we were attacking Iraq this time..

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...0-06-wmd_x.htm

directfiesta 07-13-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 14456383)
He destroyed his scuid missles? Hmm interesting since I seem to recall them shooting some at us when we were attacking Iraq this time..

how about a link to those vicious unfounded scud attacks by the iraqis... maybe FauxNoise ....

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As yesterday's anti-war protest came to an end Saddam Hussein finally began scrapping his arsenal of banned missiles yesterday - continuing his extraordinary game of brinkmanship with George Bush and Tony Blair.

UN inspectors supervised the destruction of four al-Samoud 2 rockets - just hours before the deadline for scrapping the illegal arms passed.

The Iraqi president was ordered to destroy the missiles by UN chief weapons inspector Hand Blix last week. He told Saddam disarmament had to begin by yesterday.

The demand came after it emerged the al-Samoud, which is based on the design of the Russian Scud, can carry chemical and biological warheads more than 90 miles - the maximum range imposed after the 1991 Gulf War.

But yesterday's concession by Saddam was immediately dismissed by Britain's Tony Blair as "nowhere near enough". The Prime Minister said: "This falls a mile short of what he has to do, which is full disarmament. Where, for example are the thousands of tonnes of nerve gas agents which are unaccounted for?"

The move was hailed by chief UN weapons inspector Hans Blix as a "significant piece of real disarmament." But Foreign Secretary Jack Straw attacked it as a "cynical trick".

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer went further. "The Iraqi actions are propaganda wrapped in a lie inside a falsehood," he said.

The first wave of missile scrapping came as the Turkish parliament backed the use of their land by US troops to launch attacks in Iraq.

But, as the Pope announced he was sending an envoy to Washington in a bid to avert war,

Agent 488 07-13-2008 08:21 PM

the rest of the world laughs as the US drains it's $$$ fighting these battles- just as the US did aa the soviets blew their load fighting afghanistan - so sad ...

Z 07-13-2008 08:59 PM

Oh come on people, we're already in a cold war.

dav3 07-14-2008 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 14456352)
Funny how you guys supported , armed and financed terrorists against the liberating Soviet forces in Afghanistan ...

The US supplied stinger AA missiles were a deciding factor against Russia's attack choppers, which were mopping up the Afghanis.

Isn't this about the time bin laden became very friendly with the US gov?

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In 1986, the U.S. began shipping approximately 1,000 Stingers to the Mujaheddin in Afghanistan for use against Soviet aircraft. Approximately 270 Soviet aircraft were downed with these missiles(a 79 percent combat success rate). Unfortunately, many of these (and apparently other) Stingers in the hands of non-US users have been diverted to unfriedly hands. Stingers originally sent to the Afghan resistance appeared in Iran and were used for anti-aircraft defense for Iranian patrol boats. Other Stingers were captured by the Afghan Army and turned over to the Soviet Army.
http://www.nisat.org/weapons%20pages...ile_system.htm


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