^^^^^^
definitely in the top 50 hottest reps in the biz.



i just adopted this ideology and it works fabulously. i will never go back.

51 big affiliates, eeeer I mean hot rep's :)

Learn to properly link the banner in your sig playa

Just check out the vip area of the hottest clubs at the shows and you will find the players. However if your not a player yourself you won't get an invite, unless your hot of course...

The ones who don't want to be introduced to anyone at the shows :winkwink:

will76 is the only one I know of who proved how much he was making. He showed a screen shot of his clickcash sales on here once. It showed about an average of 90 sales a day. That's about $40K a week I think. I know many would say that he possibly altered the image, but I didn't smell any BS at the time of the thread. The guy knew what he was doing in regards to cam promotion. I wish I could find that thread... impossible now.

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im sure it is already been said but the biggest guys are the guys you really dont know and really dont keep a public status...
i know almost all of my biggest afill's dont bother goign to shows and they dont frequent gfy they like to hang around the smaller places and lurk more than anything

im not saying im a whale by any means or even a big player, but if you are a serious player, do you really want everyone to know? personally, I dont. when i got to shows, I want to have fun and learn about some new stuff, not be bothered by people bugging me to show them how to make money, or people that "think" they make money trying to tell me what to do.

PLUS, once people know you have or make some decent amount of money, they instantly want to become your best friend. they see you buying drinks or food, or trying to show your close group of friends a good time and they want to piggy back along for the free ride.

its sad tho, but you will know who your true friends are when you are broke... or tell them you are :winkwink:

For the biggest webmasters for traffic/sales, shows are about getting their own asses kissed, not picking up the tab.

lc.....!

And thats a bad thing, how?

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The answer to this question changes and changes fast. One moment it can be one guy and the next he can be gone. Mailers, exploits, toolbars, spyware now tubes all come and go and are big fucking money in their peaks.

Its the indvidual that knows how to sniff out where the money is and follows it, adapts to it, evolves with it that strong year after year no matter what the instyle method of making big money is.

Ive been in this biz for a long time. Ive seen webmasters be big playa and profit 90k a month one month and then make 3k a month a few months later.


There will always be flavors of the month, flashes in the pan. The latest "whale" that everyone awes at. Born overnight looked at as a genius or God, only to be gone a year or two later broke.

The true big webmasters are the ones who can make good money, year after year. Adapt and ride out all rough waters and still prevail near the top.

Those are the true people in the biz we should be recognizing. And the ones sponsors should be developing long term relationships with.

Proven Famlies.

Well said Boneprone :thumbsup

Not always true. Ive never had a problem getting into these areas or having invites to anything, but over the years ive seen not just big webmasters but a lot of flash in the pan players as well as people who make next to nothing in this biz (or any biz for that matter) in these areas.

There have been times where ive been invited to something like this and there was no one to talk to about actual "biz" becasue no one really knew anything about the biz.

Ive seen some strange shit over the years.

More often than youd realize people throw money around just to throw it in these social circles. Not to grab webmasters or biz, but to look big and flex a $$ muscle to the biz and create an image that they are playaz just for the sake of doing it.

Remember the Likewhoa booths and Parties? To this day I dont think a sponsor has beat their Booth budgets. Likewhoa may be gone, but that dynamic still lives in many companies.

Im not dissing anyone, God knows I had a blast being invited to party with companies like these. Had the times of my life. But its not really good biz.

indeed ... :thumbsup

awesome post... it's all about consistency and adaptation...

Err I don't get the point of this thread. You're saying there are independent webmasters who promote themselves as being able to send a lot of sales to programs? Who does this exactly?

Old skool whale = 500+ joins per day.

New skool whale = about half that or less.

2c

EDIT: This does NOT include your own traffic to your own shit. MANY bigger whales than fit in affiliate pools in that category.

4c

2% is a pretty good guess I'd say, I recently watched an interview with this Shoemoney guy, guess how much he makes from the thousands of webmasters he referred to affiliate programs/networks? $500 a month 2nd tier commissions total!!!

well said and very true.

IMO, its like any other business. when tube sites came along, I know a lot of people who refuse to adapt and you can watch how they struggle more and more each month. if you cant adapt, you will fail with the exception of a few

as well, i think there is a natural progression for bigger players. they start with their own affiliate sites, then after making enough bank, roll out their own programs. not only are they now getting 100% of the revenue (instead of 50/50 split), but they can also promote cross sales and other revenue verticals... so the rich keep getting richer :winkwink: