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shahab6 08-08-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14580137)
Wow, this is weird, I was doing some keyword research about two months ago and came across this website. I thought it looked familar and checked some of my notes.

Did you recently get hit with a penalty? I remember your site ranking much better than it is now. I don't mean just a few pages either.

Yea I did have high ranking, I don't know what happen, I didn't get any penaly. I been out of google for 2months now. Foruntly sales wise, it hasn't gone down much.

baddog 08-08-2008 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 14579800)
As some people have e-mailed me asking for $15,000, which is not worth it for that keyword, as that keyword only gets searched 2500 per day.

If it isn't worth it to you, then you might want to take up this guy's $8 offer.

The Judge 08-08-2008 01:13 PM

There are two types of SEO service:

Type 1: Wannabes, either pay upfront or based on results. You are not going to get results.

Type 2: Pay based on results. They get you to where you want. After payment received they contact your competitors and make an offer to take your site down.

shahab6 08-08-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14582599)
If it isn't worth it to you, then you might want to take up this guy's $8 offer.


Your telling me $15,000 is worth it for a keyword that only gets searched 2500 perday?
and they guy said the amount it will be on the first page depends on many factor. So I could be paying him that mcuh and it can only be up for 2 months.

For example if it was a keyword that gets searched a lot I wound not mind paying that much. For example keyword "porn" gets searched 260,083 perday.
so you will get probably 260083 perday.
but mine I would only get 250 perday.

baddog 08-08-2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 14583615)
Your telling me $15,000 is worth it for a keyword that only gets searched 2500 perday?
and they guy said the amount it will be on the first page depends on many factor. So I could be paying him that mcuh and it can only be up for 2 months.

For example if it was a keyword that gets searched a lot I wound not mind paying that much. For example keyword "porn" gets searched 260,083 perday.
so you will get probably 260083 perday.
but mine I would only get 250 perday.

Well, since you have refused to respond to my attempts to assist except by making ridiculous requests I am not about to give an opinion on whether or not it is worth it.

I get the impression you would not know what to do with the phrase if you had it.

shahab6 08-08-2008 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by pigface (Post 14574967)
the best way is to buy links as long as you have a more or less a semantic page-structure.
go to linkworth.com setup an account or call them. they will help you spending you budget in buying relevant links for your keywords. you can also contact them on linked in. Vewry nice people!! they will also tell you that you need minimum 2-3k budget per month to make the list as you want. But allways with a little risk that you are cought from google... and your money is fucked then...

Yea I probably have to take that route

shahab6 08-08-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14583634)
Well, since you have refused to respond to my attempts to assist except by making ridiculous requests I am not about to give an opinion on whether or not it is worth it.

I get the impression you would not know what to do with the phrase if you had it.

What do U mean "you have refused to respond to my attempts to assist "


Plus how would u know if whether or not its worth it.
In oder to know if it its worth it or not, u have to know my conversion rate?

mynameisjim 08-08-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14580137)
Wow, this is weird, I was doing some keyword research about two months ago and came across this website. I thought it looked familar and checked some of my notes.

Did you recently get hit with a penalty? I remember your site ranking much better than it is now. I don't mean just a few pages either.

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Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 14582527)
Yea I did have high ranking, I don't know what happen, I didn't get any penaly. I been out of google for 2months now. Foruntly sales wise, it hasn't gone down much.

I rememember studying your site a bit back then. I would NOT start buying links blindly or doing anything else. I think you did get a penalty of some sort although I haven't checked.

You need to find out what happened before starting any SEO campaign.

It's very possible if you try to optimize right now you will harm your site even more. :2 cents:

kane 08-08-2008 08:05 PM

If you want a good ranking for a very competitive term it is a long term, ongoing process. You can rank well, then a few weeks or days later be gone from the top. There are a lot of people trying to get those rankings. If you target more specific keywords you will have a better chance of ranking well, but still it is an ongoing deal. Someone can help you get there, but if you don't continue to update your site and keep your links active and your site relative you will lose those too. If I were you when you find someone either be prepared to be in a long term relationship with them or pay them to teach you how to keep your rankings once you have them.

baddog 08-08-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 14583651)
What do U mean "you have refused to respond to my attempts to assist "


http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showpo...8&postcount=32 and an email

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Plus how would u know if whether or not its worth it.
In oder to know if it its worth it or not, u have to know my conversion rate?
Like I said.

shahab6 08-08-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14583671)
I rememember studying your site a bit back then. I would NOT start buying links blindly or doing anything else. I think you did get a penalty of some sort although I haven't checked.

You need to find out what happened before starting any SEO campaign.

It's very possible if you try to optimize right now you will harm your site even more. :2 cents:

how would I know If I gotten an penelty.

I havn't done anything that would cause me penelty , at least I don't think so.

Marshal 08-08-2008 09:50 PM

hit me up on icq#: 53667259 or email: nettrust at gmail. i might have something you need. don't take me for granted, but it's definitely not gonna be cheap.

shahab6 08-08-2008 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by nettrust (Post 14583880)
hit me up on icq#: 53667259 or email: nettrust at gmail. i might have something you need. don't take me for granted, but it's definitely not gonna be cheap.

just email me price at [email protected] and length of time it will be up on first page.

For example will I be paying you monthly for it to be up on first page or yearly, or one time payment.

shahab6 08-08-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14583702)

I will contact u.

mynameisjim 08-08-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by shahab6 (Post 14583793)
how would I know If I gotten an penelty.

I havn't done anything that would cause me penelty , at least I don't think so.

A penalty is determined because of a series of symptoms. You can do a few tests that help confirm your suspicions but generally if you notice a sudden LARGE drop in ranking and traffic one of two things happened:

1) You got hit with a penalty.

2) X number of your inbound links were devalued.

If you just drop a few spots or a few pages it usually means other people worked harder than you and you need to double up your efforts.

I'm not selling you anything so I'm trying to give fair advice. Make sure the SEO person you hire knows the history of your site, when it dropped, and has access to your stats for the last several months and you tell them EVERYTHING you've done to build traffic. If they don't know, or don't care, you can do more harm to your site.

Countless people notice a sudden loss in rank and start doing all sorts of SEO, usually just redoing what got them in trouble in the first the place.

e-god 08-09-2008 06:00 AM

Results 1 - 10 of about 191,000,000
num of searches per month: 9,140,000
Think how much you would make if your site WOULD BE in top10 for credit card and then try to realize how much such seo campaign would cost.

I doubt you will find serious seos in this forum ...

My advice: AdWords :)

Libertine 08-09-2008 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 14583986)
A penalty is determined because of a series of symptoms. You can do a few tests that help confirm your suspicions but generally if you notice a sudden LARGE drop in ranking and traffic one of two things happened:

1) You got hit with a penalty.

2) X number of your inbound links were devalued.

Or, with new sites: sandbox.

shahab6 08-09-2008 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by e-god (Post 14584630)
Results 1 - 10 of about 191,000,000
num of searches per month: 9,140,000
Think how much you would make if your site WOULD BE in top10 for credit card and then try to realize how much such seo campaign would cost.

I doubt you will find serious seos in this forum ...

My advice: AdWords :)

how did u get num of searches per month: 9,140,000 ?


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