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BTW, you haven't answered to my previous question. How many Jews were executed by you Ukrainian SS grandpa during WWII? Has he got any medals for that? |
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Saakashvilli used his REGULAR ARMY against Russian citizens in South Ossetia. He did it officially. His genocide military operation was planned and it was named "Clean Field" which says it all. Interesting info, right? On the other hand, the US soldiers/military instructors also frighted against Soviet and Russian armies who were fighting the terrorists in Afghanistan, Chechnya and now in South Ossetia. Did you know that? Now try to use your brain and understand WHY exactly your statement above is totally stupid. P.S. Right now the Georgian army is totally disorganized. You may already know they were running away from the way of Russian tank group (you can read about it in civilian Georgian blogs - some links can be found above). Seems the USA spent a lot of money for nothing and their military instructors were unable to do a good job they were paid for :2 cents: |
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4509692.ece
Georgian army flees in disarray as Russians advance The Georgian Army was in complete disarray last night after troops and tanks fled the town of Gori in panic and abandoned it to the Russians without firing a shot. As Russian armoured columns rolled deep into central and western Georgia, seizing several towns and a military base, President Saakashvili said that his country had been cut in half. For the first time since the crisis erupted last Thursday, Russia admitted that its troops had moved out of Abkhazia, the other breakaway region under Moscow?s protection, and seized the town of Senaki in Georgia proper. Russian officials again insisted that they had no intention of occupying territory beyond South Ossetia and Abkhazia. Georgia said that the Russian Army was also in command of the towns of Zugdidi and Kurga in the west, and its tanks appeared to be moving from the north and the west towards Tbilisi, the capital. he retreat from Gori, the birthplace of Joseph Stalin, was as humiliating as it was sudden and dramatic. The Times witnessed scores of tanks and armoured personnel carriers, laden with soldiers, speeding through the town away from what Georgian officials claimed was an imminent Russian invasion. Residents watched in horror as their army abandoned its positions after a day of increasingly aggressive exchanges of fire along the border with South Ossetia, the breakaway region now fully under Russian control. Jeeps and pick-up trucks filled with Georgian soldiers raced through the streets, their occupants frantically signalling to civilians that they too should flee. The road out of Gori towards Tbilisi was a scene of chaos and fear as cars jockeyed with tanks for a speedy escape. Soldiers left by any means available. Dozens of troops clung to cars on the back of a transporter lorry, while five other soldiers fled on one quad bike. A tank had exploded on the mountain road leaving Gori, although it was unclear what had caused the blast. The Times passed an armoured car in flames, soldiers leaping from the roof of the vehicle. It had apparently caught fire while trying to bulldoze the tank?s burning shell out of the way. Columns of Georgian tanks and heavy weaponry filled the road during the 50-mile journey back to Tbilisi as thousands of soldiers, many looking totally demoralised, headed for the capital. Police sealed off the highway from Tbilisi, turning back the few cars that ventured towards Gori. The Russian attacks were met with Georgian artillery fire towards South Ossetia, despite President Saakashvili?s statement that he had called a ceasefire. Reporters later witnessed at least six Georgian helicopters attacking targets in South Ossetia. Elsewhere, Russian armoured personnel carriers swept into Senaki, 20 miles inland from the Georgian Black Sea port of Poti, which Russian troops were also said to be attacking. Georgia said that Russian forces seized police stations in Zugdidi, where reporters saw Russian soldiers posted outside an Interior Ministry building and armoured vehicles moving through the town. It was unclear last night where the tanks fleeing from Gori were heading, but many of the troops regrouped on the outskirts of Tbilisi as if preparing to make a stand to defend the capital. Some artillery pieces had also been sited on the approach road from Gori. The panic had been triggered at about 5pm, when troops suddenly started pouring out of Gori. Officials from the Georgian Interior Ministry claimed that up to 7,000 Russian troops with tanks were heading for the town and that it was under imminent threat of bombardment. A similar panic had ensued on Sunday night as thousands of people poured from the town, in what turned out to be a false alarm. The fear this time was more tangible, the sense of threat more real, as Gori?s streets emptied rapidly. Not everyone was prepared to leave, however. One man said: ?This is my city. I will never leave it even if the Russians come here and kill me. Why should I go to Tbilisi and wait for them there?? The Georgian Government, which appealed for international support, claimed later that Russian troops had entered Gori, although there was no independent confirmation of this. As the noose appeared to tighten around Tbilisi, the US State Department evacuated more than 170 American citizens. Poland and several other former Soviet satellites voiced fears that the fighting indicated Russia?s willingness to use force to regain its dominance of the region. Even at the height of the chaos, Georgia?s legendary hospitality never faltered. A 70-year-old woman named Eteri retreated into her home and appeared moments later to offer apples from her garden to her guests. ?I am not afraid,? she said. ?We have lived with the Russians for 100 years so why do we need this war now? I don?t want to be with America; I think we should live peacefully with the Russians.? Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle4509692.ece |
FACT: If you consider the article above just another KGB propaganda, you are an idiot.
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And I know who right and how says bullshit...... |
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P.S. 2adult-help: now you know who we are (I mean the people from your list). Actually I never tried to hide that I'm Russian. So what? Who cares about my nationality except a bunch of useless noobs? I don't have any business with kids, I'm working with big guys - the serious and wise people here, so I don't give a shit about you and about your silly conclusions. :2 cents: |
cyberxxx: Your aggression in this thread makes no doubt about who started this war.
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Sounds like the 40s...next thing you know they'll be back in the baltics!?!?!!
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Canada, in next year I guess. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh |
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Soviet tanks. Idiot, those were SOVIET tanks and you are responsible for them, because Ukraine was a same part of Soviet Union like Russia. Furthermore, Mr. Hrustsev was an Ukrainian. So STFU please :winkwink: |
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man put the weapons down and shake hands :) peace
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BTW just watch this video: It looks like "someone" was really dreaming to start a WWIII in this August :helpme :winkwink: |
news everywhere! So damn noisy to me!
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http://www.bhopal.net/otherbhopals/a...m+rumsfeld.jpg http://www.oilempire.us/graphics/rumsfield-saddam.gif BTW which one is Bob on the pictures above? Because I see Rumsfeld and Saddam there. I'm just curious :) |
adult-help - я искренне надеюсь, что в чешской республике, такой сказочный долбоеб как ты, в единственном экземпляре. провокатор сраный.
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i have most of tom's games luv them all playstation breaks i call them at least 3 a day :thumbsup
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Wanna more truth about brave Ukrainians? Ok, here it is: The Mass Shootings of JEWS in Ukraine 1941-1944 http://www.deathcamps.org/reinhard/pic/bigrabka06.jpg http://z.about.com/d/history1900s/1/0/x/E/plaszow4.jpg http://www.yahadinunum.org/64407a.jpg http://www.deathcamps.org/reinhard/pic/bigrabka10.jpg I believe even Poland should be "very grateful" to Ukraine for this: http://www.kresy.co.uk/Images/polish_children.jpg Viva the Ukraine!? :helpme |
MINSK, Aug 12 (Reuters) - Russia's ambassador to Belarus said on Tuesday that Moscow could not understand why its western neighbour, nominally a close ally, had failed to offer the Kremlin open support in its conflict with Georgia. Belarus, whose President Alexander Lukashenko is accused by the West of crushing fundamental rights, has portrayed itself as a close Russian ally since the 1990s.
The two neighbours are committed to forming a merged post-Soviet "union state", though this has been put on the backburner, especially since 2007 when they quarrelled over energy prices. "We are somewhat perplexed by the modest silence of the Belarussian side. You need to express yourself more clearly on such issues, especially as we have a union state," ambassador Alexander Surikov told a briefing. Belarus's Foreign Ministry has called on both sides to lay down their arms and start negotiating for peace. Surikov complained that Belarus had not even offered to send aid for people injured or made homeless in South Ossetia. "We have always supported and defended Belarus," he said. |
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Besides I can show you a picture of Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin all sitting together and chatting too. Does that mean Churchill and Roosevelt were as evil as Stalin? Or how about the picture of Neville Chamberlain shaking Adolf Hitler's hand? A picture of two politicians shaking hands means nothing espceially when taken way out of context. Give your head a shake. |
Some one here has tried to speak about Chechnya? Ok, read what president of Chechnya says: http://translate.google.com/translat...F8&sl=ru&tl=en
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this thread certainly delivers.
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According to the following writer Russia had to have been planning this operation for months in advance:
http://tinyurl.com/575jhh It wouldn't surprise me at all if Russia had set this whole thing up. |
According to facts (not the writers): captured maps, pre-typed Georgian door-plates for Ossetian administrative buildings, weapon, reports of captured soldiers, their badges, documents etc the operation "Clean Field" was planned by Georgian and the US governments.
Next target is Iran. Wait a bit and you'll see. |
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It was always at the edge of the conflict and every serious country would be prepared for something like this, of course. But I don't know how you can speak about setup if no one is denying that Suck(cock)ashvilli ordered attack and kiling more then 1000 k civilians in one night while they were sleeping?!
So what are you suggesting, that Russian actor replaced Sakashvilli and ordered his troops to attack? And If you want setup, try to read about terrorist 38 MALES killed by Serbian police in Villge of Racak that was used as excuse for NATO bombing of Serbia. |
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http://www.kresy.co.uk/Images/polish_children.jpg No, this is not shit. This is a WAR CRIME COMMITTED BY UKRAINIAN SS BRIGADE. |
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^ lol wow this thread is outta control Cyberxxx this is for you С моря доносится крик о помощи: "Help me! Help me!". Два одессита проходят мимо, и один говорит другому: "Слышишь, пока все одесситы учились плавать, этот пижон учил английский..." |
BTW, I have nothing against the normal Ukrainians. Most part of them are very nice, peaceful and good people. I just don't tolerate these neo-Nazi ones (including the Ukrainian president Mr. Youshenko) who prey to their "old and brave" Nazi SS history. For some reason I believe that Adultmix is one of them.
Once again: this is not related to a whole Ukrainian people! That's my personal point of view and I want to make it clear. |
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