Russian soldiers? Why not Chinese, or Zimbabwe ones? Look the their uniform dude :1orglaugh

As about the story: "they came, they kill etc..." there are too much of this BS in western media. Too much words and no proof. Your news works like a Gerbils propaganda machine.

Still don't believe? Watch this:



Failed!

Now about the truth. These are not just stupid words, these are photos from Tshinvali:

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9323/img9558xb1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4946/img9562ll3.jpg

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5272/img9580vb9.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8621/img9584lr9.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8956/img9617bs2.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/9215/img9596lo5.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/629/img9597bn2.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/2337/img9619jj7.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/5854/img9676ow1.jpg

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/5497/img9709vr1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/5686/img9601ps8.jpg

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/7605/img9602eq5.jpg

BTW, why haven't you start talking about Chechen independence? Wanna see where Chechen battalion "Vostok" was during this small war?

The were kickin' Saakaskhili's ass together with Ossetians and Russians. Watch:

http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/643/img9611bf2.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/6274/img9616wa1.jpg

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/7758/img9623om9.jpg

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/3519/img9662ns7.jpg

Wanna say something stupid again?

BTW, when Georgian army got an information that Chechen "Vostok" equipped with "shmels" launchers is moving into Tshinvali, their tanks turned back immediately. Because even stupid Saakashvili knows it well: Chechens are not Russians there will be no mercy for Georgian soldiers...

Settle down dude, I doubt they read this board. You're safe.

You are they? Aliens? Chupacabras? Your have to visit your doctor ASAP dude, because your paranoia level is very disturbing - I'm not joking. :2 cents:

I had taylor ham, egg and cheese this morning.

So, Georgia attacks Russia....Russia defends...

Hmmmm...USA backs Georgia....USA in election year...

McCain is friend with Georgian president.

hmm....perceptual war is a great money maker...VOTE REPUBLICAN

And the US fleet is moving to Iran right now...

not very many journalists "end up dead" in Russia.

Journalists and the media in Russia is a funny monster. You can't blame every beat up or killed reporter on "the government". Journalists in Russia are whores. Russia is a violent place. Journalists end up being tools in plenty of disputes where they are paid to publish stories about people, companies etc. by those who want to discredit them, win a contract or whatever. Journalists usually get beat up and shot for being exactly what they are... not because they are idealists seeking only to report the truth.

and i am saying this as someone who has made the national news in Russia more than once with absolutely nothing said about me or my business being true on any level.

so.... a person got grazed by a bullet in a war zone?

must be a pretty shitty sniper

Another funny video. Do you know what happening to a hand if it's being shoot with "SVD"? of course you don't because you was "wise" enough to post such a bullshit again. Have you been in army man? I'm so tired of all those setup videos...

P.S. I'd believe into that video if she showed her hand with sticking out bone instead of her palm.

fired 5 times too

BTW, there was a video on Russian TV when our journalist (the RTR guy) has been shot by Georgian sniper to a leg. That was very real and graphic, because he is a journalist even if he injured, his operator works. They have filmed even the surgery when doctors sewed up his leg. This was a really good and true video, but the one posted by pocketkangaroo is just... LOL

Cyber;


Here's a pic for you, :winkwink:


http://i38.tinypic.com/dw6kxv.jpg

Thanks I like it :1orglaugh

Your video is a fake. Now look at this:



"You can be killed if you are a journalist", right? :winkwink: :1orglaugh

wow.. what a sniper.
watch the fox video above idiot. Now that shit is real. From fox reporter himself.

youtube com / watch ? v = H8XI2Chc6uQ

USA Freedom -your opinion?

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I didn't bother reading most of the replies, but I say fuck Georgia. They're in the wrong and Russia is in the right. I support Russia's reasons for defending it's interests.

Too many people being sympathetic to Georgia are buying into the bullshit spread by western propaganda and lies.

fucking classic. Be it some Georgian guy they would go on forever about the "crimes"

He (I mean that FOX guy) said that coward Georgian "army" is killing civilians. I won't be surprised if Saakashvili will try to accuse "Bloody Russia" all those dead Georgian civilians.

Cowards, fucking lairs and mad animals.

Yes, that's a good prove for all the naive morons on GFY who really believe there is a freedom of speech in the USA. Your are in deep shit guys. Because your government is brainwashing you everyday. This is even worse than old good Soviet propaganda.

Congrats for living in USSR v2.0. :thumbsup


P.S. Happy I haven't moved to the USA in 2001. That was a really great decision :thumbsup

You could probably better educate people if you didn't insult them. I'm pretty sure you would convince more people of your point of view if you weren't so bent on calling them "naive morons" and victims of "propaganda".

... but to each their own. ;-)

Nope, I haven't insulted anyone. See if someone is not that naive and not a moron, he won't take take these words to himself, right? But if a person really naive and if he/she is really a moron so there is no insulting at all. It's just an ascertaining of a fact. So why some one have to feel insulted if someone said a truth about him?

Moron is a medical diagnosis but not an insulting. I haven't said people something like "eat shit motherfuckers" etc. I just told that those who believe there is a TRUE freedom of speech in the USA are very naive people and the medical diagnosis mentioned above is absolutely correct about them.

You know, when I was young and was living in the Soviet Union, I have believed almost in all the Soviet propaganda. So I was a naive moron. And I can confirm it w/o any problems. Now I just got smarter. That's it.

As about my point of view... I'm not an American and personally I don't have to be scared of loosing the freedom of speech. The the US citizens have. I mean those who really care, but not those who don't give a shit about freedom of speech.

I may or may not agree with you depending on what it is you believe but I am certainly interested. What is your argument that there is not "freedom of speech" in America? What is that you think I personally am not free to say in America and to whom? or what is it that you think a newspaper, radio program or television show is not free to state? Are you claiming that certain statements will get you arrested? Or ... ?

Is "moron" still a valid psychological diagnosis in Russia? It's not really used in the US anymore. What is the definition of "moron" according to Russian psychologists?

I got to ask, why is the media misreporting the Georgia issue on such a large collective scale? There has to be a reason?

Also Cyber, do you know what ever happened to the investigation with Litvinenko and Andre Lugovoi?

English is not my mother language. So you can replace it with any other medical word which describes a weak-headed person that don't want to listen, think, learn, or has a mental retardation with a very low intelligence.

For example, I haven't called you a moron (even if I don't agree with you). Because I see you an intelligent person. Actually there is a lot of intelligent people on GFY. But a few guys are really retarded. So my comment was directed to them only.

Nope, the investigators are in the UK. As far as I know, the blame Lugovoi, on the other hand, Lugovoi blames MI6. But everyone knows that Beresovsky is behind of Litvinenko's death. Too much "friends" of Beresovsky have died under very strange conditions...

Yes i also thought it was a strong possibility Berezovsky was involved, he is a shady charachter. And what do you think about my other point on the media issue? Imo there is alot more than what meets the eye with the Media these days.

Actually I can't answer to your question. It looks like all the western media is controlled by some group of people. But I can't believe that's true because it's sounds even worse than Roswell UFO conspiracy theory. So I really can't answer to it. I can just see the facts (the western media hasn't said a word during almost 24 hours while South Ossetians and Russian peace keepers were bombed with Georgian "Grads"), but I don't know the reasons. I have no idea how it was possible and why they (the western media agencies) did that. No single thought, sorry.

He had a long train of deaths here in Russia. Now these strange death cases moved to the UK. I don't think it's just a singular coincidence. :2 cents:

There are conflicts all over the globe every day with little or no reporting. There is daily carnage in Africa for example. Face it, "South Ossetia vs Georgia" is hardly newsworthy. Throw in the Russians and now you have something of interest. Same thing with any number of conflicts around the globe. How much do you read about Sri Lanka vs. Tamil Eelan or Algeria vs the Armed Islamic Group. We hardly have any reporting of the situation in Darfur despite hundreds of thousands dead. Really, the reporting is limited. Why? Because it has only limited influence on our politics. There have been hundreds of such conflicts that garner close to zero interest until a world power gets involved. Then interest increases and news coverage along with it.

As far as the particular situation, there were hardly any western reporters in georgia or even interested in georgia two weeks ago. Why? Because there weren't hundreds of Russian tanks poring across the border. At first the only information that is available is AP or reuters news wires, often just press releases by the parties involved. Everyone echoes everyone else because there is no additional information. Soon after there are phone interviews and then you begin to hear different points of view. Eventually western reporters arrive on the scene, people read differing opinions, Op/ED pieces appear in the WSJ, NYT and so on. Western media is vast. There are 1500 daily newspapers in the United States alone, hundreds of weekly and monthly news periodicals, television news, radio news blogs and so on. You can read pieces in say Bloomberg and the LA Times today that present a different view than was available just a few days ago.

And a few more words on all that anti-Russian hysteria in western media. Let's look at facts. Russia has no reason to expand its territory and invade any more countries including EU, because these countries have nothing useful, i.e there are no resources. We have a lot of oil, natural gas etc. On the other hand, there is a energetic crisis in the USA and EU. So they are looking for ways to to resolve their problems. The only "possible" way is invading of Russia. So it looks like a big preparation for WWIII. A first step in that is an informational war and an attempt to deprive Russia of its possible allies.

Howover some ppl in the US administration don't understand a simple thing: Russia does not need any allies to destroy not just the USA and EU but a whole planet. I.e. there is no chance to win such a war. Furthermore, if some areas will remain not completely destroyed with a nuclear strike, they will be occupied within a few days by China. So there is at least one country has a possibility to gain over the flattered world and it's China. Not Russia, not the USA and of course not the EU (its military bases will be the first targets for a Russian nuclear strike). Perhaps also Africa have a chance to not be destroyed, but... this won't change anything.

That's my personal analysis of the current situation. Be ready for a global nuclear war and don't ask who will initiate it - just look at the news to understand where all the anti-Russian propaganda is coming from. Some guys have decided to play a big chess party, but I doubt it's a great idea to play the chess against Russians. IMHO.

I think you are getting way too worked up what is nothing other than a little border situation. like countless other such situations this one will come and pass. Seriously, you think the west is involved in an information war to deprive Russia of its allies to be followed by World War III? You think the heads of state and all the top people in the Departments of Defense of all these countries have just forgotten that Russia has thousands of nuclear warheads and ICBMs? Are you serious? Maybe you only remember and everyone else has forgotten. Have you applied for a defense job to save the free world from its own insanity? ;-)

"My fellow Americans, I'm pleased to tell you today that I've signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes." - Ronald Reagan, 1984

Nope, it's not a little border situation. It's just a border situation for South Ossetia, Georgia and Russia, but not for the USA. The USA has no borders, peace keepers and civilian US citizens in that region. However the USA is in the energetic crisis right now (not Russia - we have anough of resources and feel great with it). So try to look a bit farther.

First of all, I don;t think that the west is involved into the information war against Russia, I see it. By the way, you can see it as well - just turn your TV on. As about WWIII. What's the reason of all that the information propaganda?

Seems so. What if I ask you a similar question? "You think the president of Georgia and his top people in the USA have just forgotten that Russia is able to kick Georgian ass within a few days by means of the Russian Caucasus Military Group only?" But after meeting with Condoleezza, Saakashvili has really forgotten that.

Absolutely.

No, I haven't. I'm not the one who can change the situation. But on Russian boards I've told many times that Putin's external politics is absolutely idiotic. He has removed our base from Cuba, he has allowed the US forces to use our bases in Central Asia and he did many other SERIOUS strategic mistakes I even don't want to speak about here.

Do you know that his stupid joke has almost started a nuclear war?

The WORLD is crazy.:(

Countries comment on each other's actions all the time. I don't see any reason why this is materially different than any of hundreds of other such situations we have witnessed. Rather than respond to every time in your post I'll just bump this thread in a month and we can re-discuss. I am betting the entire situation will have dissolved to nothing and this won't even be news here in the US in a month. Want the other side of that bet?

Oh, when do you predict WW III will start?