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Phil 08-10-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 14588356)
If you are trying to say there is a reading between lines then I think both sides wanted a formal sign to do it.

what? now in english please.

halfpint 08-10-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14588320)
Formally Ossetia is Georgian territory and Russian already was there since 1994 according to the international mandate.

They are entering Gori which is not part of Ossetia, Maybe they will take the whole of Georgia. Russia have also said they want President Saakashvili to leave Georgia

Sid70 08-10-2008 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14588365)
what? now in english please.

from yur saying i understood that you claim Georgians were set ready waiting for a formal sing to start this war. I think Russians were set ready too and been waiting for a formal sign to step in.

just a punk 08-10-2008 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by qxm (Post 14588362)
Dude grow some skin ... SERIOUSLY ....

Thanks babe, that was a really useful suggestions - have no idea how can I live without it :)

just a punk 08-10-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 14588376)
They are entering Gori which is not part of Ossetia, Maybe they will take the whole of Georgia. Russia have also said they want President Saakashvili to leave Georgia

They haven't told you all. Russia wants Saakashvili get sued as a war criminal. But it's a secret yet (telling you that confidentially as a secret KGB spy on GFY) :winkwink:

qxm 08-10-2008 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14588384)
Thanks babe, that was a really useful suggestions - have no idea how can I live without it :)

is a basic rule here in GFY.... ur welcome :thumbsup

Phil 08-10-2008 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Adultmix (Post 14588379)
from yur saying i understood that you claim Georgians were set ready waiting for a formal sing to start this war. I think Russians were set ready too and been waiting for a formal sign to step in.

Russians didn’t have to be ready. “Ready” would be making a giant soccer field in place of Tbilisi with few Topol rockets. Now that would be ready.. They just did what would any country with substantial interest and power would do. Lets not forget that there are very few countries that have capability to protect its and its allies’ geopolitical interests with out stretching out the hand.. Georgians hoped for a handout, but that didn’t work. That’s what happens when you bluff..

Phil 08-10-2008 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by qxm (Post 14588362)
Best post in this thread so far......... so much crap being said left and right... this makes it a bit more clear ..... thanks m8 :thumbsup



Dude grow some skin ... SERIOUSLY ....

Moe and larry With combined IQ of 100. All you need is to get headless to play Curly.

Sid70 08-10-2008 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14588411)
Russians didn?t have to be ready. ?Ready? would be making a giant soccer field in place of Tbilisi with few Topol rockets. Now that would be ready.. They just did what would any country with substantial interest and power would do. Lets not forget that there are very few countries that have capability to protect its and its allies? geopolitical interests with out stretching out the hand.. Georgians hoped for a handout, but that didn?t work. That?s what happens when you bluff..

hoping for a handout facing usa and russia is kinda crazy. thats middle life crisis i think. so what was the reason to suddenly go into this war? Fucking facts and links please.

qxm 08-10-2008 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CAMOKAT (Post 14588423)
Moe and larry With combined IQ of 100. All you need is to get headless to play Curly.

are you trying to say that AlienQ's summary is in some way retarded? Are you fucking serious? If you see the comment you just referenced I was making a comment on AlienQ's summary of what's going on... and with so many people discrediting CNN .. it is nice for someone to lay down some basics as to what is going on instead of going around circles........

seven 08-10-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588296)
Uhmm hold on a sec. Georgia did not attack first.

Ok, I'm at a loss here.. so far all articles I read and BBC/CNN all said Georgia attacked first.. do you have an URL stating otherwise?

Sid70 08-10-2008 03:35 PM

The conflict between Georgia and South Ossetia has intensified after the rebel region’s territory was shelled late on Friday and early on Saturday, as a result of which six people were killed and 13 wounded. South Ossetia accused Georgian forces of shelling its territory while Georgia blamed the separatists for provoking armed clashes.

http://www.newsarmenia.net/news23804.htm

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14588324)
Actually it did. Seems have are completely lost in time :2 cents:

You are dense.
Ossatian Separatists fired on Georgia on THursday killing 10 Georgians. The separatists attacked first you meat head.

A year or two back Georgia fired on Ossatian forces and it was resolved diplomatically in the Initial Georgian attack a couple years ago there were no fatilaities.

The thing that triggered this all on Thursday was Ossatian Artillary fire killing 10 Georgians inside Georgia understand?

OK Cool.


Fuck man... Jeeses. You do not even know where this things starts do ya?

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by seven (Post 14588461)
Ok, I'm at a loss here.. so far all articles I read and BBC/CNN all said Georgia attacked first.. do you have an URL stating otherwise?

FUCK Whats with you people?

"The situation in South Ossetia escalated rapidly from Thursday night, when Georgia said it launched an operation into the region AFTER artillery fire from separatists killed 10 people. It accused Russia of backing the separatists."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...ef=mpstoryview


FUCKKKKKK!

slavdogg 08-10-2008 03:51 PM

Georgia cracks under Moscow?s military pressure as Russian planes bomb Tbilisi internationational airport

DEBKAfile Special Report and Analysis

August 10, 2008, 8:17 PM (GMT+02:00)
Russian armor pours into South Ossetia and Abkhazia

Russian armor pours into South Ossetia and Abkhazia

Russian planes bombed Tbilisi international airport and a military airfield near the capital Sunday evening Aug. 10, after Georgia handed the Russian embassy in Tbilisi a desperate message offering to halt military action in South Ossetia and withdraw its troops from the region. Russian forces were then reported to be on the way to invading the Georgian town of Gori after moving in on the second Georgian breakaway province of Abkhazia.

The Russian president Dimitry Medvedev rejected the Georgian appeal and said the war would go on until Tbilisi withdrew its forces unconditionally from South Ossetia and pledged never to attack the region again. This is tantamount to Georgia accepting its truncation and surrender to Russian hegemony.

DEBKAfile reports that the Russian jets pulverized Gori, leaving hundreds dead, to punish Georgian for invading the South Ossetian capital of Tskhvingali last Thursday.

The air raids of the two Georgian airports took place as the US began flying hundreds of Georgian troops home from Iraq, leaving them nowhere to land.

During the day, Russian soldiers and marines entered Abkhazia, Georgia's second breakaway province, by land and from Russian Black Sea naval vessels, which were ordered to block Georgian ports against arms delivery by sea. This opened a third front in Russia?s war with Georgia on Day Three of the armed conflict.

At midday, Ukrainian military circles indicated the possibility of closing Russia?s main Black Sea base of Sevastopol to naval ships on their way back from blockading Georgian ports.

The US has drafted a resolution condemning Russia in third UN Security Council session later Sunday.

In the face of President George W. Bush?s demand for an immediate withdrawal of Russian troops and support for international mediation, Moscow poured an additional 10,000 men and armor into South Ossetia Sunday as well - and Russian jets bombed a military airfield outside the Georgian capital of Tbilisi.

Under heavy fire, Georgia ?temporarily? pulled its soldiers from the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, but stayed in the region and denied it was surrendering. President Mikhail Saakashvili asked the United States to act as mediator with Moscow and appealed to the Russians to stop ?this madness.?

That was Sunday morning.

Russian prime minister Vladimir Putin, for his part, accused Georgia of ethnic cleansing. As disputed casualty figures climbed, civilians were increasingly bearing the brunt of the bloodshed and hardship.

Two Georgian towns, Gori and the Black Sea naval, military and oil port of Poti, also took casualties and heavy damage from Russian air strikes. A third town, Zugdidi on Abkhazian border, was targeted Sunday.

DEBKAfile?s military analysts: By flouting US demands to accept mediation, Moscow highlights America?s lack of leverage for helping its embattled Georgian ally. The Bush administration has trapped itself in its foreign policy commitment to dialogue and international diplomacy for solving world disputes but is short of willing opposite numbers.

Russia is following Iran?s example in exploiting Washington's inhibition to advance its goals by force. Therefore, the Caucasian standoff has profound ramifications for the Middle East and Persian Gulf. Moscow?s disdain for Washington?s lack of muscle will further encourage Tehran and its terrorist proxies to defy the international community and the United States in particular.

DEBKAfile?s military analysts reported Saturday: Tiny Georgia with an army of less than 18,000, having been roundly defeated in South Ossetia, cannot hope to withstand the mighty Russian army in Abkhazia.Therefore, President Saakashvili, who had bid to join NATO, must consider both breakaway regions lost to Georgia and gained by Russia.

This is Moscow's payback for the US-NATO success in detaching Kosovo from Serbia and approving its independence. It is also a warning to Ukraine, the Caucasus and Central Asia against joining up with the United States and the NATO bloc in areas which Moscow deems part of its strategic sphere of influence

After seizing South Ossetia and Abkhazia from Georgia, four follow-up Russian steps may be postulated:

1. The two separatist provinces will proclaim their independence, just like Kosovo.

2. Russia will continue to exercise its overwhelming military and air might to force the pro-American Saakashvili?s capitulation.

3. The Georgian president will not survive in office long after losing two regions of his country and national humiliation. Moscow aims to make Washington swallow a pro-Russian successor.

4. Moscow?s trampling of Georgia will serve as an object lesson for Russia?s own secessionist provinces such as Chechnya, Dagestan and Ingushettia not to risk defying Russian armed might.

Juicy D. Links 08-10-2008 03:52 PM

why are the russians in atlanta?

Adulter 08-10-2008 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588514)
FUCK Whats with you people?

"The situation in South Ossetia escalated rapidly from Thursday night, when Georgia said it launched an operation into the region AFTER artillery fire from separatists killed 10 people. It accused Russia of backing the separatists."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...ef=mpstoryview


FUCKKKKKK!

I just wonder what needs to be said/done to make you realize that CNN is not really the right source for this issue to get your facts from ? Neither is BBC. :Oh crap

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Adulter (Post 14588569)
I just wonder what needs to be said/done to make you realize that CNN is not really the right source for this issue to get your facts from ? Neither is BBC. :Oh crap

Awright well then cool.

How about you goto fucking Georgia and find out for us dick head?

just a punk 08-10-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588514)
FUCK Whats with you people?

"The situation in South Ossetia escalated rapidly from Thursday night, when Georgia said it launched an operation into the region AFTER artillery fire from separatists killed 10 people. It accused Russia of backing the separatists."

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe...ef=mpstoryview

CNN told you that? Ah, ok then :winkwink:

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Vendot 08-10-2008 04:41 PM

Whether Georgia shot first or Ossetia shot first, im curious about how bold a move it was from Russia knowing what the global response would be....... they're really pushing things and it looks like Russia used Georgia's action as an excuse to do what its doing.

At the end of the day, I wonder whether Putin being in Beijing at the time of the action wasnt in some way organised into the plan...... contingency i.e. just in case there was a major response from the west then Russia would have continuity of government. Now i know the olympic ceremony took away some of the media attention but maybe Putin's presence outside of Russia was contrived in some way.

Adulter 08-10-2008 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588637)
Awright well then cool.

How about you goto fucking Georgia and find out for us dick head?

How about you to stop talking about things you know nothing about ?

It shows your stupidity too much you ignorant fuckface...

just a punk 08-10-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by slavdogg (Post 14588531)
Georgia cracks under Moscow?s military pressure as Russian planes bomb Tbilisi internationational airport

If that's truth, seems Russia still decided to catch Saakashvili's ass and cut off all the possible ways to escape - both: by sea and by air. As far as you may know, Mr. Medvedev said: "Everyone who is responsible for the act of genocide will be punished". Hope he will do that he has promised to the country...

halfpint 08-10-2008 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14588656)
Whether Georgia shot first or Ossetia shot first, im curious about how bold a move it was from Russia knowing what the global response would be....... they're really pushing things and it looks like Russia used Georgia's action as an excuse to do what its doing.

At the end of the day, I wonder whether Putin being in Beijing at the time of the action wasnt in some way organised into the plan...... contingency i.e. just in case there was a major response from the west then Russia would have continuity of government. Now i know the olympic ceremony took away some of the media attention but maybe Putin's presence outside of Russia was contrived in some way.

Russia knew that the global responce would consist of "words" and meetings and nothing more. Besides Russia has never listend to Nato or the USA. The USA or the West wouldent want to even consider going to war with Russia I think they have enough on there hands already. But the timing was sure good

just a punk 08-10-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14588656)
Whether Georgia shot first or Ossetia shot first, im curious about how bold a move it was from Russia knowing what the global response would be....... they're really pushing things and it looks like Russia used Georgia's action as an excuse to do what its doing.

At the end of the day, I wonder whether Putin being in Beijing at the time of the action wasnt in some way organised into the plan...... contingency i.e. just in case there was a major response from the west then Russia would have continuity of government. Now i know the olympic ceremony took away some of the media attention but maybe Putin's presence outside of Russia was contrived in some way.

Sorry, I believe you have confused a few words. You wanted to say this:

"Whether Georgia shot first or Ossetia shot first, im curious about how bold a move it was from Georgia knowing what Russian response would be....... they're really pushing things and it looks like Georgia used Russian's action as an excuse to do what its doing.

At the end of the day, I wonder whether Putin being in Beijing at the time of the action wasn't in some way organized into the plan...... contingency i.e. just in case there was a major response from Russia then Georgia would kill thousands of Ossetians. Now I know the Olympic ceremony took away some of the media attention but maybe Putin's presence outside of Russia was used by Saakashvili for his failed blitzkrieg."

Right?

just a punk 08-10-2008 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 14588677)
Russia knew that the global responce would consist of "words" and meetings and nothing more. Besides Russia has never listend to Nato or the USA. The USA or the West wouldent want to even consider going to war with Russia I think they have enough on there hands already. But the timing was sure good

You are wrong Sir. Russia was always listened to Nato and the USA. As you of course don't know (because CNN will never tell you that), Russia has left heir bases in Georgia long before the terms of international agreement in exchange for Saakashvili's word that were will be no foreign bases in Georgia. Right after that the USA military came to Georgia...

Guys, you are soooooooooooo brainwashed :disgust

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Adulter (Post 14588664)
How about you to stop talking about things you know nothing about ?

It shows your stupidity too much you ignorant fuckface...

Yup yer right. I can give two shits about this part of the world or it's people. I claim ignorance because this area is an unimportant wasteland of fucking idiots fighting over stupid shit that does not matter one fucking bit to the world.

Let's hope alot of them die and perhaps we can look forward to less spyware and leeching bot's and massive amounts of internet fraud.

SO let the blood pour hard...

I love stupid war's where people kill each senselessly under the influence of some retarded sense of Nationalism or Religeon. It's all pointless and stupid.

I will Enjoy watching you dumb Old Eastern Block fucks kill each other off. Bye bye!

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 05:21 PM

I mean let's face it, all them Old School Eastern Block cunts hate Americans more than anyone or anything anyway's these days.

So enjoy yourselves falling back into Old Cold War Era shit, I very much look forward to seeing less of you fucks spamming these boards and my EMail box.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 05:27 PM

OH yeah and one thing can be certain...

Not a single ounce of American blood will drop for you stupid Eastern Block dipshits:)

Ta ta:) We won't be comming to save you, that is pretty much guranteed.

Ya got no Oil and are the trailer trash of the white race that insist's on war that means absolutly fucking nothing.

just a punk 08-10-2008 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588750)
I mean let's face it, all them Old School Eastern Block cunts hate Americans more than anyone or anything anyway's these days.

You mean the countries like Poland and Czech Republic, right? :1orglaugh

just a punk 08-10-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588760)
OH yeah and one thing can be certain...

Not a single ounce of American blood will drop for you stupid Eastern Block dipshits:)

Ta ta:) We won't be comming to save you, that is pretty much guranteed.

Ya got no Oil and are the trailer trash of the white race that insist's on war that means absolutly fucking nothing.

For some reason I think that the US government won't ask for your permission, so relax :winkwink:

just a punk 08-10-2008 05:33 PM

As about Nato and "old school eastern block". Germany supports Russia, but Poland and Czech Republic don't.

So you have failed again. Because your information sources suck :)

buzzy 08-10-2008 05:37 PM

Nobody should expect Russia to respect a Georgian called ceasifre, after Georgia broke a ceasifre a few hours after they made one with South Ossettia resulting in 1400 dead, which sparked this war in the first place.

I hope they catch Sakaashvili and burn him alive, he has already killed thousands of innocents.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-10-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14588783)
As about Nato and "old school eastern block". Germany supports Russia, but Poland and Czech Republic don't.

So you have failed again. Because your information sources suck :)

Well I will take My lieing and stupid Western news organizations more seriously than Government based Eastern Block Russkie Propaganda anytime.:1orglaugh

just a punk 08-10-2008 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588824)
Well I will take My lieing and stupid Western news organizations more seriously than Government based Eastern Block Russkie Propaganda anytime.:1orglaugh

What an obstinate guy :1orglaugh hint: read the German news. :winkwink:

just a punk 08-10-2008 06:08 PM

P.S. Watching EuroNews will be OK as well :)

Phil 08-10-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14588824)
Well I will take My lieing and stupid Western news organizations more seriously than Government based Eastern Block Russkie Propaganda anytime.:1orglaugh

Illiterate fuck..

you still give head on Thursdays for half price?

seven 08-10-2008 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 14588656)
Whether Georgia shot first or Ossetia shot first, im curious about how bold a move it was from Russia knowing what the global response would be.......

Why do you think Russia would need a permission ticketfrom the rest of the world to protect its own citizens?

Fatalspeed 08-10-2008 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cyberxxx (Post 14588673)
If that's truth, seems Russia still decided to catch Saakashvili's ass and cut off all the possible ways to escape - both: by sea and by air. As far as you may know, Mr. Medvedev said: "Everyone who is responsible for the act of genocide will be punished". Hope he will do that he has promised to the country...

You keep saying Georgia's president Saakashvili is responsible for genocide. Where is your PROOF? Or is your proof that the Russian government is telling you this, so it must be true? LOL

Uzcorp 08-10-2008 09:43 PM

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pocketkangaroo 08-10-2008 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Fatalspeed (Post 14589263)
You keep saying Georgia's president Saakashvili is responsible for genocide. Where is your PROOF? Or is your proof that the Russian government is telling you this, so it must be true? LOL

His sources are solid. The Russian journalists who will be murdered if they don't report exactly what they're told by the government.


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