america is not that bad

When George W went against the UN and invaded Iraq, he set the stage for these kinds of things.

Now the UN is speaking to Russia, and guess what, they don't have to listen because the US did the same exact thing when it came to Iraq. Its absolutely hypocritical thinking that Russia should comply when the US snubbed the UN over Iraq. It's no different. We told the world to fuck off when it came to Iraq, and guess what, now Russia is telling the world to fuck off when it comes to Georgia.

As an American, that's the first thing that came to my mind. Don't be surprised if you see the same thing from other countries. When a permanent member ignores the UN, it takes a lot of credibility away. One of the many terrible things George W can put under his accomplishments.

let Peace come and rule over all evil wars

I honestly hope America doesn't try to attack Russia, as high and mighty US thinks they are Russian soldiers are actually trained and are far better prepared then we think, the US army is now largely comprised of illegal mexicans who only joined to get a free green card lol

It's wrong because the US isn't involved.

Its not OK. Not at all.

since when are politics and hypocrisy mutually exclusive of each other?

The best answer yet. :thumbsup

i got a sad bit of news for you comrade, russian soldiers are very poorly trained, have horrible equipment and are very poorly taken care of.

it took two wars for Russia to subdue Chechnya... the first war they have to give up completely and granted Chechnya their independence... the second time around it took 100K plus soldiers, tanks, planes, helicopters etc and 4-5 years to marginally suppress less than 10k, poorly trained bandits and mercenaries who had nothing but Ak-47s, RPG's and sniper rifles... even then, they had to do it by totally just razing entire cities to the ground from a distance.

Yeah exactly...... well said. Its obvious but too many people just dont get it.

Things are fucked now because Blair and Bush didnt have the foresight to see what kind of damage they were doing beyond the immediate consequences that we already know about (and they didnt foresee those either).

russia georgia: this preplanned, coldblooded metated murder of a small country. russian "peacekeepers" have been antagonizing georgia constantly for years. this about the russian not wanting a u.s. base in georgia. georgia is a "small" country they are not a threat to russia. why would russia have so many troops and equipment ready to come in so fast. russia not trying to protect, they are trying to takeover and control.

cuba:there are many countrys very successful without the us as a trading partner. cuba can trade with almost anyone in the world. the reason cuba is in the shap its in is that there system does not work without a big brother supporting them. the only reason cuba survived for so long is because the soviets supported them, when they pulled out you have the "cuba of today" the other is that cuba does not pay its bills even with the hundreds of billions of dollars, yes "dollars" in banks in france and other countrys.

for thoses that are enjoying cuba in its current state many people where executed and are currently being executed for your enjoyment of the island. I personally have had many family members executed just for being against the current government. "the war in cuba"

i believe the United States is a noble country, we are not perfect and the world is not as it seems the world is always in a constant state of war, either in its non-violence form we call discussions, argument debates, etc. and the ones with violence. there is war without violence and there is war with...

Errr ... Started LONG before that. Plenty of wars "against UN"

Same shit, different excuse.

You're kidding, right?

what u smokin ? iraq was the training ground for some of the people coming to the us and blowing up shit georgia is 125 pounds sokin wet and russia is like a 7'7 450 pound man:1orglaugh

Great post.

That wont be ok for US, that's for sure LOL :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Analogy isn't really proper..

Russia was not the one that attacked first. As far as I know, Georgia's army attacked South Ossetia and killed many Russian people, so Russia had to react in order to stop ethnic cleaning in that territory.
Georgia like to enter NATO as soon as possible, and one of the terms they need to accomplish is fixing their internal issues.
With US donations help, they raised the army budget to more than a billion USD and as result, usage of power came up in S.Ossetia.

Totally different than US/Iraq thingie :)

Usa is the biggest teorist on the world now.

yeah, i also wondering about it:thumbsup

If Foxnews says it is ok then it is ok. What did they say about Georgia?

I wouldn't call everyone from the U.S a scamming piece of shit.

Of course it is! Attack as and watch the Armageddon.

BTW, my UK colleague, get ready to die as well, because the Nuclear hell will knock your own door as well :winkwink:

Yep, seems The Judge was drunk or something like that. Let's wail till he gets sober :)

lol i didn't think anyone still believed that bush lie, it wasn't before the US invaded, but it is now

make love, not war
no winners, only people that die

USA gov attack another country for crude oil, that sucks :throwup. rusian is better than USA because they attack another for defense not for to fuck it.

i hate USA gov but i like usa people :D

ps : i'm not USA or Rusian :pimp

Are you high, I do not live in Miami. I live in Arizona like it says on my profile. Cuba is not poor because of the USA. It is poor because Fidel and his fucked up government. Yes it is bullshit to jail people for talking out. So you think it is ok to be arrested for speaking out? It is not stupid of them to speak out. How do you think change happens? I love people like you who talk out of their ass. Visitng Cuba is not the same as having to live there.

And thats worse then an army of illegal mexicans who don't even want to fight for the US and are only there for the green card? lol

I hope the Russians attack Alabama next... Alabama sucks!



sadly i have to say that i am joking using the whole "Georgia" theme. Alabama really isn't bad at all.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh I really don't take conservative Republicans serious anymore about the sacredness of marriage and all that at all. i mean, they say gays shouldn't be married and gay sex is wrong but they are out porking every young guy in the butt and having as much gay sex as they can! It's very hypocritical, and it makes them look really stupid. :2 cents::1orglaugh

And AGAIN!!!
I'm from Georgia but live in Moscow
I'd call to my home to Tbilisi, there is panic and 90% of ppl what to say "thanks" to USA that they start it war with Russia via Saakashvili!

Man, a lot of you are completely ignorant and stupid to say the least. Do you remember the Gulf War? How about do a bit of studying before you say that the US simply attacked Iraq for no reason. Bullys....at least we have the balls to TRY and police the world...unlike most of you pussies. (I'm talking countries not individuals here.) :)

You do realize that your country fired on Russians first...right? From what I've read and heard the US has nothing to do with your little squabble over there.

Saakachvili start bombing South Osetia first :( at 7 august.....

im shocked alienq havent said anything stupid yet

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

My bad, I thought I read Miami in your location. Must have looked at another posted.


Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. This is where you clearly show you don't have any idea what is really going on.


Nobody should be arrested for speech. However, rules are rules. Every country has rules and if you break them, you get punished. If that is illegal in Cuba, then they had better keep quiet about it. I live in Thailand and it's illegal to speak bad about the royal family. Guess what? Nobody speaks bad about the royal family. There is no such thing as "freedom" as our country wants us to believe. What we have is a world filled with needed rules, even if you or I don't agree with them, and we have to follow those rules if we want to be left alone in peace.

Leave change to those who can actually change things. Spoken word doesn't cut it these days. If the people want Cuba back, take it the way Fidel did. Oh, I forgot, that was already tried and funded by the CIA but was a total failure.


Talking out of my ass? Have you ever even been there?

Of course visiting and living there are not the same. That applies to any country. Though I have not just spent a week there laid up in the Varadero resorts. I've spent an easy year of my life there. Maybe more. How about you? I've talked to a lot of people there, in various cities, and the majority of them did not want to leave Cuba. Sure, they wanted change but they loved their country and didn't want to leave. I can count on 2 hands the Cubans who told me they wanted to leave, and each one of them was for financial reasons, not because they didn't love Cuba.

One thing American Cubans seem to forget, is that the Cubans still on the island are mostly proud Cubans who love their country. While many do welcome change and pray for it, believe it or not there is still a generation of people who believe in The Revolution. American Cubans can not fathom that idea, and that is their right, they are Americans now and have the freedom to voice it.

Look, I'm not saying Cuba is perfect. It's far from it. But Fidel did not run it into the ground, the USA did after the Soviet Union fell. That is even written in the history books should you want to take the time to read about it. Of course exiled Cubans and the American government want to say otherwise, but of course they do, I would not expect them to put the blame on anyone else. Nobody on American soil ever takes accountability for anything. Why start now?

Is the Cuban government corrupt? Of course it is. Every government is.

And you're right, I have no idea what it means to struggle in Cuba. There is no way I could ever know. And I know this. I'm basing my thoughts on my extensive time spent there talking to the people and the information I have been able to find over the years. However, I do have the advantage of knowing what is coming their way as soon as the embargo and travel ban is lifted. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that, and it's not good.

A Cuba debate can go on forever. You will never agree to my views, and neither me to yours. That's ok, I can agree to disagree. Just remember this thread when the embargo is lifted and the USD bum rushes Cuba and strips it of everything it has. If you have never been there, you can't understand what that charm is, but if you have, then you know exactly what I'm talking about. And it's a damn shame. Cuba is like the last little unspoiled place in earth.

And there is the problem. We Americans think it is our duty to police the world. However, that is what the pretty much useless UN is for. If anything needs to be done, it's a foot put in the ass of the UN to get involved and get shit done.

We can't even police ourselves. We do not really understand other cultures and expect them to do things our way, even though they have been doing it their way for 1000s of years. This is why we get our ass handed to us over and over.

Policing the world is like policing the internet. I wish them the best of luck.

HEhe The world expects Americans to Police the world to.
THe funny thing is when the USA does nothing it's still Americas fault...

I really wonder where World Education is at right now.

For all you neophytes know Bush and Putin could have decided both the fate of Georgia and Iran over a fucking hotdog.

Bush: "Tell ya what.. We'll trade ya Georgia for Iran?"

Putin: says "It's deal!"
Bush: "Cool, want a bite of my hot dog?"

Putin: "Sure Comrad! By the way how fast ya think you take Iran out ehh? You tink maybe fastere than Great Russia take out Georgia?"

Bush: "Oh ya wanna up the stakes my good man? You go first and I'll even give you a 2 month lead, I will send the ya the head of Abinidijadi or what ever them mula's call him before you can send me the head of the Georgian President!"

Putin: "Yer On American!"