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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-13-2008 03:36 AM

Heres the pic after the Hotdog in China.

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...Hqcaa/340x.jpg

I wouldnt call these men mortal enemies by any means.

DWB 08-13-2008 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AlienQ (Post 14600148)
The world expects Americans to Police the world to.
THe funny thing is when the USA does nothing it's still Americas fault...

Yup.

And there is the other side to the coin.

Because we do police the world, we are now expected by many to do so when something goes wrong somewhere. Of course we only help when there is benefit or the powers that be can get filthy rich from it.

While I'm not a fan of the USA policing the world, I think we should help, because we can, anytime genocide is involved. We should have been in Sudan ASAP to stop the killings there, but we are letting it happen the same we did when it happened in Rwanda in 1994. In fact, we sit on out asses just about anytime there is a real problem and only throw our dick around for strategic or financial gains. Not that I can fault them for that, but don't act like world police when you only are willing to protect when you can gain from it. :2 cents:

Slappin Fish 08-13-2008 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 14599210)
Are you high, I do not live in Miami. I live in Arizona like it says on my profile. Cuba is not poor because of the USA. It is poor because Fidel and his fucked up government. Yes it is bullshit to jail people for talking out. So you think it is ok to be arrested for speaking out? It is not stupid of them to speak out. How do you think change happens? I love people like you who talk out of their ass. Visitng Cuba is not the same as having to live there.

Since the collapse of the Soviet Union Cuba is no threat to the US, so why where tougher sanctions imposed as recently as 2004 and 2006? For 15 strait years all UN nations vote in favor of an end to the embargo, only two vote against, the US and Israel. You really think freedom of speech is the reason?

What is really nauseous is to see how exiles living safely in the US keep rooting for more pain to be imposed on their poorer cousins..

just a punk 08-13-2008 06:08 AM

Guys, please vote: http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=847602

tranza 08-13-2008 06:20 AM

I was thinking exactly the same thing when I saw Bush was criticizing Russia about the attacks.

Holly 08-13-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tenletters (Post 14599322)
sadly i have to say that i am joking using the whole "Georgia" theme. Alabama really isn't bad at all.

Auburn is better, though.

See sig.

cykoe6 08-13-2008 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 14594873)
And yea, you have people who speak out against Castro jailed. So what? They know it's not allowed, and they do it anyway. Pretty fucking stupid if you ask me. Is it a human rights violation? Maybe. The US has done worse over less. No country is perfect. But they people know the rules and choose to break them. The people in Cuba have other small freedoms that Americans don't have, but on the flip side, they don't have the freedom to criticize their government. Break the rules, pay the price.

It is rare to hear a leftist who is so open about his totalitarian beliefs. Your honesty is refreshing.

spazlabz 08-13-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 14592881)
seems kind of hypocritical, doesn't it? at least Russia can say that GE attacked them so they had to retaliate, what did Iraq do to us? Iran has done more to us than Iraq, but they're more of a formidable opponent I guess.

Cuz it isn't ok for us to have attacked Iraq


spaz

ADL Colin 08-13-2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by midphase (Post 14597054)
. rusian is better than USA because they attack another for defense not for to fuck it.

Those Georgian tanks rolling toward Moscow musta been really frightening!

just a punk 08-13-2008 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14601005)
Those Georgian tanks rolling toward Moscow musta been really frightening!

LOL

Do they have enough fuel to reach Moscow? :winkwink:

LAJ 08-13-2008 09:03 AM

Cuz bush didn't think of it first. and that pisses him off.

Oh and they didn't try to kill his daddy.

pocketkangaroo 08-13-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultMovies.bz (Post 14599252)
And thats worse then an army of illegal mexicans who don't even want to fight for the US and are only there for the green card? lol

Under 10% of our military is hispanic. That is below our civilian population. You also can't enlist in our military without a green card (unless there is a special circumstance).

Making up stuff just makes you sound ignorant.

_Richard_ 08-13-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash (Post 14594496)
Iran is the real concern at the moment.

With around 10 US war ships moving into the gulf for a naval blockade to prevent the shipment of benzene. This would cripple the Iranian economy and stop them from exporting fuel products to China and Russia.

This is a game that could get out of hand fast if we see China and Russia send ships to escort the benzene into Iran.

holy fuck man.. thanks for the heads up

_Richard_ 08-13-2008 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Adam_WildCash (Post 14594496)
Iran is the real concern at the moment.

With around 10 US war ships moving into the gulf for a naval blockade to prevent the shipment of benzene. This would cripple the Iranian economy and stop them from exporting fuel products to China and Russia.

This is a game that could get out of hand fast if we see China and Russia send ships to escort the benzene into Iran.

holy fuck man.. thanks for the heads up

it isn't '10 war ships' we're talking massive armadas with invasion capabilities

V_RocKs 08-13-2008 01:02 PM

Democratically elected government in Georgia. Iraq was a dictatorship.

DWB 08-13-2008 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Slappin Fish (Post 14600605)
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union Cuba is no threat to the US, so why where tougher sanctions imposed as recently as 2004 and 2006? For 15 strait years all UN nations vote in favor of an end to the embargo, only two vote against, the US and Israel. You really think freedom of speech is the reason?

What is really nauseous is to see how exiles living safely in the US keep rooting for more pain to be imposed on their poorer cousins..

Very well put.

DWB 08-13-2008 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 14600842)
It is rare to hear a leftist who is so open about his totalitarian beliefs. Your honesty is refreshing.

Heh.

I don't really have totalitarian beliefs - gasp (however I do commend Fidel for what he did to Cuba in regards to their literacy rate, health care and their educational system). I'm just saying that those are the rules at this time and those who break them get punished. I would LOVE for that to be changed and Cubans could openly criticize their leaders should they be inclined to do so. Everyone should have that right!!!

But rules are rules and until they are changed, each and every one of us live by some set of rules, fair or not.

I like to eat mushrooms. It's illegal damn near everywhere I go, so I don't walk around in front of people who will turn me in and eat shrooms in front of them. Cubans should be no different when talking in a bad light against their government or leader. Do that shit at home or somewhere where someone will not turn you in for saying those things. Some things are just not worth the risk. EVERY Cuban knows what is going to happen to them and probably their family should they get caught doing anything that goes against the Revolution. I just don't see why they would risk it. There are plenty of rules I break, but I'm not going to go out of my way to let the police know about them. Why would I want to do that? By me going to jail, would it really cause a change in the rules? No.

Speaking out against your government in places like Cuba or North Korea is just not a very bright idea, regardless of your beliefs. To go further, we DO have the right to speak out against our government and leaders, but I'll be damned if you're gonna catch me in front of the White House screaming "George Bush is a war criminal" all day. How long do you think it would take security, police or FBI to own my ass? Nope, just somethings are better off done in the privacy of your own home, under your bed, with the lights off.

directfiesta 08-13-2008 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 14602368)
Democratically elected government in Georgia. Iraq was a dictatorship.

So is that " rule " a green light for any country to invade others that are ruled by "non democratically elected" president ( dictator as you call them ) ?

If so, quite a few come to mind ....


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